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Caldari Militia, the only Militia..

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X Gallentius
Black Eagle1
#41 - 2012-06-01 11:19:50 UTC
Mutnin wrote:
Good Work Caldari.. Another TWO station systems captured while I was at work.. Hallanen & Aivonen are now back in the hands of Caldari State.


Curious why Gals couldn't hold Aiv being it was captured 22:41 EVE time which is well with-in the time zone Gals claim control over..
This new systems SUCKS and favors the wcs condor pilots over the real pvp'ers! CCP Yttr doesn't know what he's doing. These Caldari are blobbers who run at the first sign of trouble. I can't believe that....

Whoops, sorry. We're not in the Amarr militia yet.

Good work squids. Game not over yet.
Joanna Ramirez
Intaki Militia
#42 - 2012-06-01 11:29:49 UTC  |  Edited by: Joanna Ramirez
Mutnin wrote:
Curious why Gals couldn't hold Aiv being it was captured 22:41 EVE time which is well with-in the time zone Gals claim control over..


They also lost capital fleet in Hallanen this morning Twisted
Dynast
Room for Improvement
Good Sax
#43 - 2012-06-01 11:57:07 UTC  |  Edited by: Dynast
Joanna Ramirez wrote:
Mutnin wrote:
Curious why Gals couldn't hold Aiv being it was captured 22:41 EVE time which is well with-in the time zone Gals claim control over..


They also lost capital fleet in Hallanen this morning Twisted

We shouldn't really brag about that, wasn't us that did it. Well, we made good bait I suppose.

Hopefully one day Cal Mil can fight on that scale. Until then, I suppose it's that or get clobbered. I'm really not a fan of the whole hotdrop thing, and I'd dearly love to see jumpdrives removed from the game, they're such a deterrent to engagements. But when it's an ad-hoc anything fleet vs a BS/logi fleet, or 2 triage carriers vs 2 carriers and 5 dreads, welp.
Lock out
Shadows Of The Federation
#44 - 2012-06-01 13:29:30 UTC
Dynast wrote:
Joanna Ramirez wrote:
Mutnin wrote:
Curious why Gals couldn't hold Aiv being it was captured 22:41 EVE time which is well with-in the time zone Gals claim control over..


They also lost capital fleet in Hallanen this morning Twisted

We shouldn't really brag about that, wasn't us that did it. Well, we made good bait I suppose.

Hopefully one day Cal Mil can fight on that scale. Until then, I suppose it's that or get clobbered. I'm really not a fan of the whole hotdrop thing, and I'd dearly love to see jumpdrives removed from the game, they're such a deterrent to engagements. But when it's an ad-hoc anything fleet vs a BS/logi fleet, or 2 triage carriers vs 2 carriers and 5 dreads, welp.


Hey at least you managed to sort a batphone and get on some cap kills. Beats the hell out of warping out and complaining about blobbers . ;)
Lock out
Shadows Of The Federation
#45 - 2012-06-01 13:31:01 UTC  |  Edited by: Lock out
Mutnin wrote:
Good Work Caldari.. Another TWO station systems captured while I was at work.. Hallanen & Aivonen are now back in the hands of Caldari State.


Curious why Gals couldn't hold Aiv being it was captured 22:41 EVE time which is well with-in the time zone Gals claim control over..


We were busy chasing a shadow cartel bs fleet including a vindicator that went pop and then getting in a scrap with some snuff T3s . Way more interesting than chasing you off the bunker.
BolsterBomb
Perkone
Caldari State
#46 - 2012-06-01 13:37:18 UTC
Joanna Ramirez wrote:
Mutnin wrote:
Curious why Gals couldn't hold Aiv being it was captured 22:41 EVE time which is well with-in the time zone Gals claim control over..


They also lost capital fleet in Hallanen this morning Twisted



BAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

Brig General of The Caldari State

"Don" Bolsterbomb

Traitor and Ex Luminaire General of The Gallente Federation

BolsterBomb
Perkone
Caldari State
#47 - 2012-06-01 13:40:45 UTC
Lockout you woud'nt know how to plex fight if a condor hit you in your face. Its only a matter of time before you get kicked out of your space.

My only complain is that I was asleep during all of this

Brig General of The Caldari State

"Don" Bolsterbomb

Traitor and Ex Luminaire General of The Gallente Federation

Crosi Wesdo
War and Order
#48 - 2012-06-01 13:45:20 UTC
BolsterBomb wrote:
Lockout you woud'nt know how to plex fight if a condor hit you in your face. Its only a matter of time before you get kicked out of your space.

My only complain is that I was asleep during all of this



I dont think orbiting a button and then leaving when some enemy arrives is such a hard concept to understand lol.

Now there are consequences in FW, or more specifically, consequences for PvE in FW. Doesnt bother me anyway, there is another trick up our sleeves that will present quite a humorous solution to this if CCP cant figure out how to make plexing a PvP activity. :)
BolsterBomb
Perkone
Caldari State
#49 - 2012-06-01 13:50:42 UTC
Crosi Wesdo wrote:
BolsterBomb wrote:
Lockout you woud'nt know how to plex fight if a condor hit you in your face. Its only a matter of time before you get kicked out of your space.

My only complain is that I was asleep during all of this



I dont think orbiting a button and then leaving when some enemy arrives is such a hard concept to understand lol.

Now there are consequences in FW, or more specifically, consequences for PvE in FW. Doesnt bother me anyway, there is another trick up our sleeves that will present quite a humorous solution to this if CCP cant figure out how to make plexing a PvP activity. :)



I do not know many of the Cal pilots that simple leave a button when someone comes in, unless they are purely at the task for isk (same as missioning) however the majority of the pilots I know will stay and fight.

The same claim that people are "orbiting" buttons and running can be made against the Gals. However, knowing what I do know it is the new FDU members (same as our pilots) that due this. Not the normal Cal players.

Heck Ill fight something even if its a remote chance of winning just to fight (my downfall) even if my intent was to make isk not fight.....

Due to this fact I have a big sticky on my computer screen that says "remember to switch out javs before engaging at close range"

*facepalm*

Brig General of The Caldari State

"Don" Bolsterbomb

Traitor and Ex Luminaire General of The Gallente Federation

Joanna Ramirez
Intaki Militia
#50 - 2012-06-01 14:41:31 UTC  |  Edited by: Joanna Ramirez
Crosi Wesdo wrote:
Now there are consequences in FW, or more specifically, consequences for PvE in FW. Doesnt bother me anyway, there is another trick up our sleeves that will present quite a humorous solution to this if CCP cant figure out how to make plexing a PvP activity. :)


So you will be using the inherent bugs in the system, something you were so appalled I dared to do to show what your side was already doing? And yet you were quick to boast about chasing all cals back to high-sec and living off the fat of the land with impunity. Wasnt this system something you yourself praised because it would complete the downfall of Cal militia and were looking forward to spinning buttons for?

But now that our mission runners are actually doing something which helps us in general and forces you to boring activity is somehow wrong because it seems to give us a slight edge. Not that you cannot already cap all sized Caldari plexes in vanilla t1 frigate anyway so your argument about npc inbalance is completely irrelevant*.

Villore sounds nice this time of year, right? Then again, it's not like you will lose Nisuwa unless someting drastic happens since we would be fighting against gallente, minmatar and amarr miltiia if we make any headway since wbr promised hot-drop-a-clock if we make it vulnerable (One of the reasons i've refused all requests from my Amarr friends to come assist them).

*Though most of the time those vanilla t1 frigates simply run away.
Princess Nexxala
Zero Syndicate
#51 - 2012-06-01 14:48:35 UTC
You sir are a liar and are completely full of poo.

You RUN from me every time I enter a plex and you are alone...every single time. Both in thrashers, bolster runs, both in t1 frigs bolster runs, hell i have feeling if i warped my pod onto your plex gate...bolster would run.

RUN BOLSTER RUN!

BolsterBomb wrote:

I do not know many of the Cal pilots that simple leave a button when someone comes in, unless they are purely at the task for isk (same as missioning) however the majority of the pilots I know will stay and fight.

The same claim that people are "orbiting" buttons and running can be made against the Gals. However, knowing what I do know it is the new FDU members (same as our pilots) that due this. Not the normal Cal players.

Heck Ill fight something even if its a remote chance of winning just to fight (my downfall) even if my intent was to make isk not fight.....

Due to this fact I have a big sticky on my computer screen that says "remember to switch out javs before engaging at close range"

*facepalm*

nom nom

Joanna Ramirez
Intaki Militia
#52 - 2012-06-01 14:53:17 UTC
Princess Nexxala wrote:
You sir are a liar and are completely full of poo.

You RUN from me every time I enter a plex and you are alone...every single time. Both in thrashers, bolster runs, both in t1 frigs bolster runs, hell i have feeling if i warped my pod onto your plex gate...bolster would run.


You mean "Alone in your thrasher and loki links in safe spot"? Tell me, why would anyone take "1vs1" if he knows other guy has links?
Princess Nexxala
Zero Syndicate
#53 - 2012-06-01 14:57:05 UTC
I dont boost solo smart guy, never have and never will. If I am in a fleet with boosts its not ALONE is it? You must have me confused with someone who is fail at pvp m8

Besides how would you know anyways, mr bomb knows only me and him are in system when he runs.


Joanna Ramirez wrote:
Princess Nexxala wrote:
You sir are a liar and are completely full of poo.

You RUN from me every time I enter a plex and you are alone...every single time. Both in thrashers, bolster runs, both in t1 frigs bolster runs, hell i have feeling if i warped my pod onto your plex gate...bolster would run.


You mean "Alone in your thrasher and loki links in safe spot"? Tell me, why would anyone take "1vs1" if he knows other guy has links?

nom nom

Mister Kwong
Doomheim
#54 - 2012-06-01 15:18:21 UTC  |  Edited by: Mister Kwong
I'm really surprised to see this many systems fall already. It's starting to become obvious that two things are at play here;

a) Gallente probably don't like defensive plexing
b) Gallente don't like offensive plexing either.

With the fleets and personnel they have, I would think it become obvious to plex the hell out of those systems near Akidagi but they never took the time to do so. I think if you ask the Gallente to form large fleets (or blobs), they can do so. But given the new plexing mechanics and how it encourages small gangs tactics, this will not spell good things for the federation. I wouldn't be surprised if morale starts to decline soon.

However, I don't think the OP should be bragging too much either because it's not like his corp or much of CalMil are expert combat pilots when you look at the KBs. It's just that they are fortunate enough to leverage the large swath of farmers to their advantage with the new plexing mechanics that encourages nothing but farming.
BolsterBomb
Perkone
Caldari State
#55 - 2012-06-01 15:24:41 UTC
Princess Nexxala wrote:
I dont boost solo smart guy, never have and never will. If I am in a fleet with boosts its not ALONE is it? You must have me confused with someone who is fail at pvp m8

Besides how would you know anyways, mr bomb knows only me and him are in system when he runs.


Joanna Ramirez wrote:
Princess Nexxala wrote:
You sir are a liar and are completely full of poo.

You RUN from me every time I enter a plex and you are alone...every single time. Both in thrashers, bolster runs, both in t1 frigs bolster runs, hell i have feeling if i warped my pod onto your plex gate...bolster would run.


You mean "Alone in your thrasher and loki links in safe spot"? Tell me, why would anyone take "1vs1" if he knows other guy has links?




What? lol I dont see you alone very often in a ship I can fight you in. A cynabol or drake against a thrasher isnt a fight.

The times I can remotely take a fight I do, even if I know I probably will lose.

http://eve-kill.net/?a=kill_detail&kll_id=12935922


(this was the most painful) in which you used a neutral cloak to get a warp in (solo again...right?...)

http://eve-kill.net/?a=kill_detail&kll_id=12935996


http://eve-kill.net/?a=kill_detail&kll_id=13275611 (solo again, right?) <----- caught me on a gate with those insta lockers


You sir are full of Poo.

I fight anything that provides a remote chance of a win. My kill board reflects that. I dont run unless its just dumb. And most times when you see nexx a fleet is following. Its not rocket science.

Brig General of The Caldari State

"Don" Bolsterbomb

Traitor and Ex Luminaire General of The Gallente Federation

Princess Nexxala
Zero Syndicate
#56 - 2012-06-01 15:27:02 UTC
I am not surprised at all. Confirming most of us don't defensive plex and the offensive plexing is typically for getting fights only. Although we do have some carebears doing it constantly, they seem to be outnumbered 4 or 5 to 1 so cascade of system losses is expected and was predicted by most of us when the expansion rolled out. TBH only a few very dumb gallente thought we could hold off the influx of caldari bears. That being said you will never see our home system fall...that's for sure, squids cant possibly maintain PVP superiority over multiple timezones to achieve this.


Mister Kwong wrote:
I'm really surprised to see this many systems fall already. It's starting to become obvious that two things are at play here;

a) Gallente probably don't like defensive plexing
b) Gallente don't like offensive plexing either.

With the fleets and personnel they have, I would think it become obvious to plex the hell out of those systems near Akidagi but they never took the time to do so. I think if you ask the Gallente to form large fleets (or blobs), they can do so. But given the new plexing mechanics and how it encourages small gangs tactics, this will not spell good things for the federation. I wouldn't be surprised if morale starts to decline soon.

However, I don't think the OP should be bragging too much either because it's not like his corp or much of CalMil are expert combat pilots when you look at the KBs. It's just that they are fortunate enough to leverage the large swath of farmers to their advantage with the new plexing mechanics that encourages nothing but farming.

nom nom

Princess Nexxala
Zero Syndicate
#57 - 2012-06-01 15:34:30 UTC  |  Edited by: Princess Nexxala
Allrighty think what you want, so many excuses from bad pvp ers in this game its get old quick. But just a note on the tornado, its called a tactical safe. Anytime I move to an area I make dozens of safes off gates within several jumps. So when a nitwit like yourself sits in one spot without moving. Makes it fairly easy when I am able to warp to one 20km from you yeah?

Pro tip; When you warp to a safe 150km from the gate @100 its puts you 50 off the gate...must be a nuetral alt, amirite?



BolsterBomb wrote:

What? lol I dont see you alone very often in a ship I can fight you in. A cynabol or drake against a thrasher isnt a fight.

The times I can remotely take a fight I do, even if I know I probably will lose.

http://eve-kill.net/?a=kill_detail&kll_id=12935922


(this was the most painful) in which you used a neutral cloak to get a warp in (solo again...right?...)

http://eve-kill.net/?a=kill_detail&kll_id=12935996


http://eve-kill.net/?a=kill_detail&kll_id=13275611 (solo again, right?) <----- caught me on a gate with those insta lockers


You sir are full of Poo.

I fight anything that provides a remote chance of a win. My kill board reflects that. I dont run unless its just dumb. And most times when you see nexx a fleet is following. Its not rocket science.




See to me that is the dumbest thing ever, I consistently get yelled at by my corpmates for not relaying intel on coms in attempts to keep the blob away from a good fight. Oh and you ran from me 4 times this week with only us two in system and both in thrashers, sorry can't show you that on the kb.

RUN BOLSTER RUN!

BolsterBomb wrote:

You sir are full of Poo.

I fight anything that provides a remote chance of a win. My kill board reflects that. I dont run unless its just dumb. And most times when you see nexx a fleet is following. Its not rocket science.

nom nom

BolsterBomb
Perkone
Caldari State
#58 - 2012-06-01 15:34:32 UTC
Mister Kwong wrote:
I'm really surprised to see this many systems fall already. It's starting to become obvious that two things are at play here;

a) Gallente probably don't like defensive plexing
b) Gallente don't like offensive plexing either.

With the fleets and personnel they have, I would think it become obvious to plex the hell out of those systems near Akidagi but they never took the time to do so. I think if you ask the Gallente to form large fleets (or blobs), they can do so. But given the new plexing mechanics and how it encourages small gangs tactics, this will not spell good things for the federation. I wouldn't be surprised if morale starts to decline soon.

However, I don't think the OP should be bragging too much either because it's not like his corp or much of CalMil are expert combat pilots when you look at the KBs. It's just that they are fortunate enough to leverage the large swath of farmers to their advantage with the new plexing mechanics that encourages nothing but farming.



What you fail to give credit to is that the Cal Mil is actually coordinating its plexing attacks on systems. You can say "gal is better combat pilots" all you want but the fact is we our better coordinated and if we get you away from your blob we can win.

The carebears do help but they go out where no one is and plex which is not the systems we have been focusing on. I know the pilots that have been working the systems. It is not carebears they are combat pilots.

We simply have a thing called "strategy"

Brig General of The Caldari State

"Don" Bolsterbomb

Traitor and Ex Luminaire General of The Gallente Federation

Crosi Wesdo
War and Order
#59 - 2012-06-01 15:35:26 UTC  |  Edited by: Crosi Wesdo
Joanna Ramirez wrote:
Crosi Wesdo wrote:
Now there are consequences in FW, or more specifically, consequences for PvE in FW. Doesnt bother me anyway, there is another trick up our sleeves that will present quite a humorous solution to this if CCP cant figure out how to make plexing a PvP activity. :)


So you will be using the inherent bugs in the system, something you were so appalled I dared to do to show what your side was already doing? And yet you were quick to boast about chasing all cals back to high-sec and living off the fat of the land with impunity. Wasnt this system something you yourself praised because it would complete the downfall of Cal militia and were looking forward to spinning buttons for?

But now that our mission runners are actually doing something which helps us in general and forces you to boring activity is somehow wrong because it seems to give us a slight edge. Not that you cannot already cap all sized Caldari plexes in vanilla t1 frigate anyway so your argument about npc inbalance is completely irrelevant*.

Villore sounds nice this time of year, right? Then again, it's not like you will lose Nisuwa unless someting drastic happens since we would be fighting against gallente, minmatar and amarr miltiia if we make any headway since wbr promised hot-drop-a-clock if we make it vulnerable (One of the reasons i've refused all requests from my Amarr friends to come assist them).

*Though most of the time those vanilla t1 frigates simply run away.


I didnt say i was going to exploit a glitch, i didnt complain about NPC balance, i have never praised station lock out infact im perfectly opposed to it and always have been. Which post were you reading? The ones in your head?
BolsterBomb
Perkone
Caldari State
#60 - 2012-06-01 15:39:35 UTC
Princess Nexxala wrote:
Allrighty think what you want, so many excuses from bad pvp ers in this game its get old quick. But just a note on the tornado, its called a tactical safe. Anytime I move to an area I make dozens of safes off gates within several jumps. So when a nitwit like yourself sits in one spot without moving. Makes it fairly easy when I am able to warp to one 20km from you yeah?

Pro tip; When you warp to a safe 150km from the gate @100 its puts you 50 off the gate...must be a nuetral alt, amirite?



BolsterBomb wrote:

What? lol I dont see you alone very often in a ship I can fight you in. A cynabol or drake against a thrasher isnt a fight.

The times I can remotely take a fight I do, even if I know I probably will lose.

http://eve-kill.net/?a=kill_detail&kll_id=12935922


(this was the most painful) in which you used a neutral cloak to get a warp in (solo again...right?...)

http://eve-kill.net/?a=kill_detail&kll_id=12935996


http://eve-kill.net/?a=kill_detail&kll_id=13275611 (solo again, right?) <----- caught me on a gate with those insta lockers


You sir are full of Poo.

I fight anything that provides a remote chance of a win. My kill board reflects that. I dont run unless its just dumb. And most times when you see nexx a fleet is following. Its not rocket science.





right a spot that is not aligned to a gate or a celsitis, but maybe your right gate camping with a booster in system with two insta locking thrashers is pro...you must have all the tacts within a 3 system circuit lined up for your pro tip pvp guide.

Just like Cal Stanson Im assuming. pro pvper because his killboard shows tons of kills......wait maybe I should go equip a target painter from now on.....

thread derailed from another "imsoawesomepvperwhichhasneutrualboostsnakesetandjesusblobaroundthecorner gallente" *sarcasm*

Brig General of The Caldari State

"Don" Bolsterbomb

Traitor and Ex Luminaire General of The Gallente Federation