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The Carebears are Getting Restless

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Spikeflach
Perkone
Caldari State
#101 - 2012-05-30 20:42:14 UTC
I like when a goonswarm person said hi sec generates too much isk for people.

Yet that alliance is supposedly giving out 100m isk per 10 ganks.

So, where's all the hi sec people with their obscene amounts of isk doing some equivalent ideas?
Haldor Rune
State War Academy
Caldari State
#102 - 2012-05-30 20:47:39 UTC
Spikeflach wrote:
I like when a goonswarm person said hi sec generates too much isk for people.

Yet that alliance is supposedly giving out 100m isk per 10 ganks.

So, where's all the hi sec people with their obscene amounts of isk doing some equivalent ideas?


It seems that they're mostly traders or industrialists, so they're keeping the money to themselves or spending it on the Market.
Darth Tickles
Doomheim
#103 - 2012-05-30 20:47:52 UTC
Spikeflach wrote:
I like when a goonswarm person said hi sec generates too much isk for people.

Yet that alliance is supposedly giving out 100m isk per 10 ganks.

So, where's all the hi sec people with their obscene amounts of isk doing some equivalent ideas?


because they`re boring
Xervish Krin
Intaki Fine Stationery Solutions
#104 - 2012-05-30 20:48:24 UTC  |  Edited by: Xervish Krin
It makes me think of the whole political thing where more than justice, equality and all that what people really want is stability to go about their lives.

What I didn't expect is people clamouring for the same thing in a video game, something that's meant to provide fun and excitement. Not stability above all else, to ensure maximum efficiency when building up a big pile of isk. Because having high numbers equals fun, right?

I just don't see the enjoyment in blindly going about the same thing every day, undisturbed, untouched by anything from the outside world of eve, when there's this whole universe of awesome stuff going on. And yet some people don't even notice Burn Jita or Hulkageddon until it kills them.
Spikeflach
Perkone
Caldari State
#105 - 2012-05-30 21:04:43 UTC
Xervish Krin wrote:
It makes me think of the whole political thing where more than justice, equality and all that what people really want is stability to go about their lives.

What I didn't expect is people clamouring for the same thing in a video game, something that's meant to provide fun and excitement. Not stability above all else, to ensure maximum efficiency when building up a big pile of isk. Because having high numbers equals fun, right?

I just don't see the enjoyment in blindly going about the same thing every day, undisturbed, untouched by anything from the outside world of eve, when there's this whole universe of awesome stuff going on. And yet some people don't even notice Burn Jita or Hulkageddon until it kills them.


Except PvP and that of which you speak isn't the only thing that exists in eve. Just because someone does mostly PvE stuff in eve, which there is actually a great amount of available, just because someone is doing PvE content instead of shooting other peoples ships, doesn't mean they are getting any less enjoyment out of eve. People group up in DED sites, Missions, Wormholes, etc...

It isn't all about the capability of someone to PvP, its more about the interactions people get between each other to maximize their enjoyment of the game.

A group of people running wormhole sites or ded sites or missions can get equal enjoyment as a group of people going out to pvp. Or a single person could do the exact same things to a more limited extent. (Solo pvp, Solo PvE)

People can get from PvE, what they can't get from PvP, and people get from PvP what they can't get from PvE.
Bad Messenger
Rehabilitation Clinic
#106 - 2012-05-30 21:17:24 UTC
Goons need some event for kids playing in there, without activity they start to cry and such.

And when 0.0 has nothing to shoot at because all are blue, they have to invent events where they gank random people in highsec.

All this is fine for me, highsec is hardest place to pvp with all rules, goons do not want to learn those rules, they just suicide gank.
Zyress
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#107 - 2012-05-30 21:29:18 UTC
Xervish Krin wrote:
It makes me think of the whole political thing where more than justice, equality and all that what people really want is stability to go about their lives.

What I didn't expect is people clamouring for the same thing in a video game, something that's meant to provide fun and excitement. Not stability above all else, to ensure maximum efficiency when building up a big pile of isk. Because having high numbers equals fun, right?

I just don't see the enjoyment in blindly going about the same thing every day, undisturbed, untouched by anything from the outside world of eve, when there's this whole universe of awesome stuff going on. And yet some people don't even notice Burn Jita or Hulkageddon until it kills them.


Thats a h3ll of an attitude, you don't understand them so you think they should be killed. I'm surprised you made it through school or perhaps you didn't.
Talon SilverHawk
Patria o Muerte
#108 - 2012-05-30 22:09:38 UTC
Xervish Krin wrote:
It makes me think of the whole political thing where more than justice, equality and all that what people really want is stability to go about their lives.

What I didn't expect is people clamouring for the same thing in a video game, something that's meant to provide fun and excitement. Not stability above all else, to ensure maximum efficiency when building up a big pile of isk. Because having high numbers equals fun, right?

I just don't see the enjoyment in blindly going about the same thing every day, undisturbed, untouched by anything from the outside world of eve, when there's this whole universe of awesome stuff going on. And yet some people don't even notice Burn Jita or Hulkageddon until it kills them.



Why do you care each to there own.

Anyway all of the reasons given are BS. Its all about ISK for the Mitts.

Do you know what, I would not be surprised if one day Mits turned around and said thanks for everything nicked all Goons ISK and gear then crowed about the biggest scam ever (you know Like what he did to BOB). Just a thought. Lol



Tal

MatrixSkye Mk2
Republic University
Minmatar Republic
#109 - 2012-05-30 22:17:00 UTC
masternerdguy wrote:
This is awesome, finally the carebears will feel the full power of the player driven pvp sandbox. They are already complaining en mass because they don't understand EVE.

To be fair, you've been complaining about Eve for some time now and you yourself still don't understand Eve.

The Mittani bitching about self-entitlement and you bitching about whiners. It's like you're writing self-hating autobiographies without even realizing it.

Successfully doinitwrong™ since 2006.
Vaerah Vahrokha
Vahrokh Consulting
#110 - 2012-05-30 23:03:25 UTC
Darth Tickles wrote:
Talon SilverHawk wrote:
Who are the richest entities in EVE, null sec alliances not hi sec carebears


hisec ultra industrialists and traders

nullsec does breed some big pocket ceos and directors, but total wealth and number of wealthy individuals (pick an arbitrary `wealthy` number) made that money in hisec




Of course. Hi seccers might be ebil and self entitled but are not stupid to work like drones to make rich some officers. They prefer to earn potentially less but to eat their pie.

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Vaerah Vahrokha
Vahrokh Consulting
#111 - 2012-05-30 23:12:09 UTC
baltec1 wrote:
Zyress wrote:


This basically, Hi-sec mining done on a small or even an individual scale is not even as profitable as missioning, I can make more isk running level 4's in my time online than a hisec miner can afford to pay me to watch them and watching them isn't a very interesting way for me to play the game. In order for them to pay me enough to compensate me for time I could otherwise be doing lvl 4's it would require a large group of miners and it would be cutting into their profits so deeply that the activity would be pointless for them and boring for me.


Pyrite is now worth 9.09 isk a unit which isn't bad for a semi AFK activity.


If you do it AFK you take 30% longer and you get popped.

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Vaerah Vahrokha
Vahrokh Consulting
#112 - 2012-05-30 23:15:31 UTC
Xython wrote:

And yet, AFK bot mining for ice or AFK Mission Running trumps any amount of ISK you can make in Nullsec until you start doing anoms in like, a Tengu. See the problem?


Before GS started their interdictions "AFK bot mining ice" earned 5M per hour. I somehow doubt you can earn less by doing anything in null sec.

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Jake Warbird
Republic Military School
Minmatar Republic
#113 - 2012-05-30 23:18:25 UTC
masternerdguy wrote:
Whenever someone tells you that if you want to pvp you should go to lo/nullsec, you know they don't comprehend EVE.

Hopefully its those same idiots who think carebears don't pvp.

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Vaerah Vahrokha
Vahrokh Consulting
#114 - 2012-05-30 23:19:56 UTC
Darth Tickles wrote:
Spikeflach wrote:
I like when a goonswarm person said hi sec generates too much isk for people.

Yet that alliance is supposedly giving out 100m isk per 10 ganks.

So, where's all the hi sec people with their obscene amounts of isk doing some equivalent ideas?


because they`re boring


No, those boring hi seccers participated at sponsoring all the past Hulkageddons and they could not affort but orders of magnitude below than what Goons can afford.

I was to add to them but not for this new fake Hulkageddon. Only if Helicity Boson takes the event back to the original roots.

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Torvin Yulus
Doomheim
#115 - 2012-05-31 01:42:32 UTC
Hulageddon is unnacceptable

im a pubby and im proud
Psychotic Monk
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#116 - 2012-05-31 01:45:49 UTC
Torvin Yulus wrote:
Hulageddon is unnacceptable


Then do something about it.

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Vaerah Vahrokha
Vahrokh Consulting
#117 - 2012-05-31 05:25:12 UTC
Psychotic Monk wrote:
Torvin Yulus wrote:
Hulageddon is unnacceptable


Then do something about it.


All he has to do is to hire mercs or directly start a wardec against Goons. Sounds simple. Pirate

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Thor Kerrigan
Guardians of Asceticism
#118 - 2012-05-31 05:45:24 UTC
Psychotic Monk wrote:
Torvin Yulus wrote:
Hulageddon is unnacceptable


Then do something about it.


The question is: what are you planning to do about it? EVE gives you the tools to deal with it.

I would admire a response that is not something like "ask CCP to make ganking harder".

Ganking does not need to be nerfed.
NPC response does not need to be buffed.

Player-driven-response is what needs to be looked at, perhaps.

The more automated penalties we have against ganking, the less player-to-player interaction there is in EVE.

Massively. Multiplayer. Online.

I think most of us want more tools to enhance interaction between players, not with NPC's. NPCs do not require an "Online" mode, and great PVE content can be found in numerous other games. The Elder Scrolls series, for instance, are a great example of awesome PVE content.

But in the end, you do not play PVE-only games for 9 years.
Mina Sebiestar
Minmatar Inner Space Conglomerate
#119 - 2012-05-31 05:53:51 UTC
Argh!!!...what is this,whole GD first page in infested with garbage CCP incinerate it plz.

You choke behind a smile a fake behind the fear

Because >>I is too hard
Ban Bindy
Bindy Brothers Pottery Association
True Reign
#120 - 2012-05-31 07:20:35 UTC
Xervish Krin wrote:
It makes me think of the whole political thing where more than justice, equality and all that what people really want is stability to go about their lives.

What I didn't expect is people clamouring for the same thing in a video game, something that's meant to provide fun and excitement. Not stability above all else, to ensure maximum efficiency when building up a big pile of isk. Because having high numbers equals fun, right?

I just don't see the enjoyment in blindly going about the same thing every day, undisturbed, untouched by anything from the outside world of eve, when there's this whole universe of awesome stuff going on. And yet some people don't even notice Burn Jita or Hulkageddon until it kills them.


Translation: I just don't see how people can enjoy themselves differently than I do.

People play games for different reasons, and that should be obvious to anybody. Playing a game to relax and unwind is pretty common. For some people that's not compatible with PVP.