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They have to come around the corner and say EXACT, what they are planning. What they want to re implement and what not. And if not; why!

Do they re implement the 100% copy of the old FUNCTIONAL UI? If not-> WHY??????? Perhaps the DUST integration?
Why have they removed Right-Click functionality?
Why have they removed the Icons in the NeoCom?
Why does a doubleclick at an icon / Item NOT open the content in a new adjustable window by default WITHOUT ANY Shift crap?


CCP has to make clear, without any room for further doubts, what they are planning with this UI.



CCP: STOP stressing the nerves of your loyaliest of loyal players. The old players who have learned EVE with the old UI more than 4 years ago and start listening to them and all others who wants their functional UI back. You have to understand that such a break with esteblished elements of the UI also means a heavy break with all old players. Or do you just want the new players who tries EVE for a few weeks and after that run to another game? Try to keep your corporation running with ONLY this sort of customer.

Am I only confused, or does the inventory now share its settings per account cross over ... Im having one installation, that I use to multiple start. And its always the same .. having market delivery open on one account, after relo, I have it open on the other account to ... same applies to status of tree toggled or not .. strange?

Edit: I mean same account, different characters.

NO! Why? Use the shortcut for this unified UI that you love so much and use the tree view!

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Or we will keep paying for them to create chaos.

The window management definitely needed improving, the idea of the unified inventory is pretty good, but has some serious problems.

I'm glad to see you guys are fixing it up, I am guessing this is part of the release and improve technique? I noticed that after each mission, when I dump my items into the hangar, I get some serious lag. I don't think it was like this previously, maybe it's a summation or graphical update that is being applied for each item? It's not the worst of the inventory issues but it's the one causing me the most grief.

The UI needs to be re-done in general, you guys have done a good job so far but I'm hoping (and pushing!) for a new one. For example, the overview filtering and tabs (it makes no sense to me anyway).

Lots of games these days have very flexible UIs, even if we don't have an add-on system, the time should be taken to make the UI modular so that your team can develop faster, much like Carbon cleaned up the code base.

Keep up the good work!

-Valk

Surely CCP could make an option on the escape options menu, under general settings or something.

Time to repeat/expand on what I think needs to be changed/restored from my experiences over the past week.
Heaven forbid I break out my rorq or orca and see what people have been complaining about with them. Haven't done any missioning to improve agent standings since you screwed us on the datacore rules - so I can't comment on salvaging/looting wrecks. I've seen a fair amount of complaining about it anyhow.

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- Neocom button to open Ship Hangar. ONLY a ship hangar. Opening a tree inventory to find a ship hangar to find the ship i want to fly is like putting your garage into a filing cabinet before you can look in the garage to find the car you want to drive.

- Corporate hangar button for corporate hangar in a station. Open in it's own window. It's not my inventory, don't merge it with mine in the tree!

- Right Click menu 'Access Storage' should open any array/container/etc in it's own separate window (no tree, or at least collapsed by default). Restores lost functionality.

- Back to TABS for divisons. Restores ease of use (lost functionality IMHO), especially when working with pos structures, where you may have more than one array open, and do not want to have a tree since it eats valuable screen space.

- DOUBLE CLICK (not Shift-click, let's follow the industry standard for heavens sake) on an inventory in the tree should launch a separate window, no tree, for the inventory.

- Option to turn the tree off - PERIOD! Heck, do this, and do the above few points, and you've restored a good chunk of what you took away.... Personally, this would be the first option i would set - to NO tree.

- Make the ISK values OPTIONAL. Should reduce lag quite a bit by reducing the queries. Hell, an option to at least set the market to use for them would be nice, as the values never seem to match anything. At least I'd know where they are coming from.

- ISK values as an optional column would be much better than the popup and the grand total at the bottom. Since you've got the isk value for the popup already (unless it's a real time query), it shouldn't change performance at all.

- Tighten up the windows! 2 lines for # of items/isk total for an inventory???? Takes approx 8 lines of window space (excluding frame title) to show a ship hangar reduced to the minimum of 3 lines...

- POS work is still a royal pain. Only way I can even make it remotely tolerable is 'shift-click' my ship cargo 4+ times to get separate inventories started, and then spend some time arranging the windows, picking the correct divisions from the trees, and then << away the trees so I have more useable work space. What stinks is if I need to change a division in a window, I have to >> the tree open, pick the other division, and << the tree away again. Hence my 'Back to Tabs' comment above.

I guess I really don't get the point of your unified inventory. Nothing about it improves or speeds up using your inventory in EvE whatsoever. Optimal said give it a chance. I did. If I only owned a ship or 2, had a few dozen items in one station, I could probably be happy. But not when I do research, invention, manufacturing (all at a pos), and manage a corp with multiple offices as well as dozens of personal boats and inventory scattered all across EvE. Sorry, short of trying to kludge around it's limitations, it falls flat on it's face. And unfortunately, the lipstick you put on it this week, did nothing to improve it for me.

** Direct Challenge to [CCP]SOUNDWAVE **

Wanna really impress us? I've seen a number of people clamoring for a 'to-do' list. Me included. Post it. The WHOLE thing. Make it a dev blog or whatever. Then check items off as you do them. Items you can't do for some reason or another, mark them off with an explanation why. Add items to it as we go along on this adventure. Heck, I'm basically asking you to do for us what I have to do for my customers in RL as I develop code for them.

The worst part about this whole thing is not knowing what all you are going to do overall to fix this. Telling us a couple of punch items at a time in a devblog once a week isn't enough.


EDIT : I can no longer 'shift-click' my ship's cargo hold repeatedly to open 4 copies of the tree when I'm at the pos to give me my separate windows after today's patch. Shift-clicking it a second time now closes the separate window that was spawned.

Fortunately, I had 2 cans in my cargo, so I could get each one to open up with 'shift-click' to give me 4 windows to use, so I could at least get some work done.... geez...

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CCP you are causing a FAIL cascade. I don't like the silly stupid UI either and now all my corpmates are quitting over it.
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