Warfare & Tactics

Faction warfare a bit… Clicky.

After the change to the wardec system. Making it cost over 100m+ for any war after the first active one, thought I’d give FW a try, tried it briefly when it first came out but was a bit too blobby for my taste, I’m a solo/small fleet kind of guy.

I pretty much expected blobs but, it really wasn’t so bad in that regard, in fact it was an improvement on my taste of encounters for small fleet stuff. Not as fun as solo but I can say I had a good time with one fleet on their TS server one night, more or less because they were funny as hell.

But starting out finding a fleet can be rather hard. Mainly due to paranoia, with spies. You see a public fleet, you join it say hello, then you’re kicked or no one says a word, ever. Won’t even provide comms info. If you happen to find them you still won’t receive any form of communication. Once you find someone that will let you in and communicate, you can get a decent roam going for the pve stuff like capturing but not so much for hunting, unless of course it’s a trap (more on that later).

I spent most of my time solo in Faction war due to this. But in the late evening I had a group I could join so that was cool.

What put me off on the whole thing from my experience I had blues attacking me often (I had a positive sec status for once). Also blue fleet members designated to set a trap for their pirate alts. The reason? Corps “claim” systems in faction warfare, if they catch you in there they get emo in local and tell you to get out. If you refuse a pirate fleet comes in, presumably their alts to get you out of the system.

Or if you jump in the system and see them getting owned and you try to help out, you will be trashed talked to get out (by the blues that are loosing!).

If it was a rare occurrence I could make due. But it happened multiple times a day by different corps in systems all over. When I got in to it, I was hoping for something less political then null, less blobs and hopefully some good company and team work.

One of the guys I rolled with said he didn’t experience anything like I have. Perhaps I’m just that lucky.

Guess it’s just my principles but I feel you should not have allies remote repping FW targets and this nap crap. In just a couple days I honestly couldn’t think of anything else in Eve that was this clicky or less rewarding then what I experienced.

I’m pretty disappointed I was really hoping that would work out. The new wardec changes really put a hurt on us. Broke down and started grinding sec status to get a few kills before I’m punished for seeking out that content and having to rep it back up again. Never find a good WH to jump someone in, and null solo you’re a bit limited on what you can bring, has to be dual prop or at least pretty darn fast to escape the blobs, or at least enough to separate to get a fight out of it.

I’m doing it wrong; it really shouldn’t be this hard to find some decent fights without something to grind to do so.

Are you wearing one of those face nose, glasses and moustache thingies?? Spyyy! :P :D


More seriously:

I never had that trouble myself, but I have heard from others that they had a hard time getting any kind of acceptance from their Militia. It really is just pure spy paranoia on their part. (Some of it justified as there are a large number of the wee barstewards infesting the NPC militia corps.)

The best way to get out of the dog house is to be seen to be fighting the war, either by getting on KMs or by getting promoted up from the "rookie private" rank by doing complexes. Whatever suits your play style best.

Post-Inferno there are now hordes of solo or very small gangs spread out plexing, so getting fights is easier than ever.

Get in touch with some of the active corps in your TZ. Expect them to be somewhat apprehensive at first, but if you have a history of Fighting The Fight then they should be willing to give you a look. All the corps need active bodies.


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This is all alien to me, apart from the comments about spais.

Which faction are you flying for (assuming this is a forum alt)?

Just join a new player friendly corp like for example TRIAD.

Yeah this is forum alt. I’ve never used one but I didn’t want to turn this in to a big mess with people arguing and used it to avoid the drama with those involved. My only real reason I don’t want to waste time on that stuff, nothing to gain by doing that.

I was in the Gal FW. Corp mates exprienced similar things but not as much as me, only because I’m more active. If only I had this pimpin mustache this could have all been avoided .

We joined the FW as a corp with a pretty active killboard. We didn't want to join another as we like wardecing. Some good suggestions. Perhaps in the future if the corp doesn't work out i'll join a decent FW corp and give that a go. Thanks

Fixed it for you .. spying/meta-gaming is not specific to FW, it is just more widespread due to it essentially being an NPC alliance thus players having little control over who joins/flies in the militias.

I have no clue as to what you are referring to here. I've never heard of GalMil shooting their own unless you were outlaw and their overview wasn't set up correctly. I've also never heard of any corp owned system making threats of such kind either. I don't see why they would emo in local.

Some fleets just don't want to bother with "let me go to jita and buy the ship you ask for, can you make the fleet wait 30 minutes for me?". It's easier to recruit first day in militia guys and get them going on the same page as the rest of the people you fly with (having ships in the same location ready, proper fits, etc).

Spy paranoia is there but if any corp is so fearful of spies that they don't recruit when all this new interest in FW is causing a flood of new blood in their militia deserves to probably die as a corp (unless you know, you have 100 guys that already work well together...). Also, its MUCH easier to root out spies if you recruit them and fly with them on a regular basis rather than randoms all the time it's hard to keep track.

lose the pedo-stash and the aviators and may be, just , maybe you'll make some friends and get to fly about.

I take you have never heard of SLAPD then?