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[UPDATE #4] Hisec miners, unite!
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Bunnie Hop
Bunny Knights
#21 - 2012-05-30 10:01:08 UTC
Zoe Athame wrote:
[Rokh, Rokh - Anti-Gank Miner]
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Mining Laser Upgrade II
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Adaptive Invulnerability Field II
Adaptive Invulnerability Field II
Survey Scanner II
EM Ward Amplifier II
Large Shield Extender II
Large Shield Extender II

Modulated Deep Core Miner II
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Large Core Defense Field Extender I
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Warrior II
Mining Drone II



Endless cycle, miners adapt so that gankers can adapt..etc. Most of these miners also have paid for months of training time to fly their hulks with t2 crystals and strippers so now they are just supposed to walk away from that (paid) training time because CCP is letting the lunatics run the asylum. Why bother?
Cebraio
State War Academy
Caldari State
#22 - 2012-05-30 10:02:47 UTC
Tatjana Braun wrote:
500 Miner...
Every miner macs 1 Call every 5 minute...
100 Intel calls per minute...

Not That god...


Just create multiple channels, named after regions: Like "GI_Lonetrek". (GI would stand for Gank Intel)
Miners usually don't switch that much between regions, when mining.
Vaju Enki
Secular Wisdom
#23 - 2012-05-30 10:53:59 UTC
Bunnie Hop wrote:
Zoe Athame wrote:
[Rokh, Rokh - Anti-Gank Miner]



Endless cycle, miners adapt so that gankers can adapt..etc. Most of these miners also have paid for months of training time to fly their hulks with t2 crystals and strippers so now they are just supposed to walk away from that (paid) training time because CCP is letting the lunatics run the asylum. Why bother?


Your the lunatic around here. If you don't like sandbox games, don't play them.


This explains everything:

We’re seeing ever-more trash fits in EVE and “hey guyz i got blown up this is unpossible” forum rage - signs that this kind of passive, ignorant, and entitled player is infecting the playerbase and beginning to make demands that CCP change the nature of EVE itself to accommodate their stupidity. To prevent EVE from becoming a PvP-optional themepark of the sort that coddles this shameful demographic, something must be done - the players who actually do participate in the EVE community must either educate these people about the nature of the game, or blow them up. Through education or violence, they must learn that EVE’s difficulty is what makes the game unique and worthwhile, rather than just another consequence-free PvP-optional themepark game.
The Mittani

The Tears Must Flow
Bunnie Hop
Bunny Knights
#24 - 2012-05-30 10:58:30 UTC
Vaju Enki wrote:
Bunnie Hop wrote:
Zoe Athame wrote:
[Rokh, Rokh - Anti-Gank Miner]



Endless cycle, miners adapt so that gankers can adapt..etc. Most of these miners also have paid for months of training time to fly their hulks with t2 crystals and strippers so now they are just supposed to walk away from that (paid) training time because CCP is letting the lunatics run the asylum. Why bother?


Your the lunatic around here. If you don't like sandbox games, don't play them.


This explains everything:

We’re seeing ever-more trash fits in EVE and “hey guyz i got blown up this is unpossible” forum rage - signs that this kind of passive, ignorant, and entitled player is infecting the playerbase and beginning to make demands that CCP change the nature of EVE itself to accommodate their stupidity. To prevent EVE from becoming a PvP-optional themepark of the sort that coddles this shameful demographic, something must be done - the players who actually do participate in the EVE community must either educate these people about the nature of the game, or blow them up. Through education or violence, they must learn that EVE’s difficulty is what makes the game unique and worthwhile, rather than just another consequence-free PvP-optional themepark game.
The Mittani


Thank you for taking the time away from kissing the goons butt to respond, though I disagree.
Vaju Enki
Secular Wisdom
#25 - 2012-05-30 11:04:11 UTC
Bunnie Hop wrote:
Vaju Enki wrote:
Bunnie Hop wrote:
Zoe Athame wrote:
[Rokh, Rokh - Anti-Gank Miner]



Endless cycle, miners adapt so that gankers can adapt..etc. Most of these miners also have paid for months of training time to fly their hulks with t2 crystals and strippers so now they are just supposed to walk away from that (paid) training time because CCP is letting the lunatics run the asylum. Why bother?


Your the lunatic around here. If you don't like sandbox games, don't play them.


This explains everything:

We’re seeing ever-more trash fits in EVE and “hey guyz i got blown up this is unpossible” forum rage - signs that this kind of passive, ignorant, and entitled player is infecting the playerbase and beginning to make demands that CCP change the nature of EVE itself to accommodate their stupidity. To prevent EVE from becoming a PvP-optional themepark of the sort that coddles this shameful demographic, something must be done - the players who actually do participate in the EVE community must either educate these people about the nature of the game, or blow them up. Through education or violence, they must learn that EVE’s difficulty is what makes the game unique and worthwhile, rather than just another consequence-free PvP-optional themepark game.
The Mittani


Thank you for taking the time away from kissing the goons butt to respond, though I disagree.



Of course you disagree, you are the typical theme park mindset player. But guess what, EvE is not a theme park mmo.

The Tears Must Flow
Lin-Young Borovskova
Doomheim
#26 - 2012-05-30 11:04:52 UTC
TheBig Bukowsky wrote:
- Create your own Hisec Mining INTEL channel with information about suicide gankers. Each time you spot any of them, call their name and the system they're in. If you've been suicide ganked, report that too.

- Add suicide gankers to your watchlist and warp-out as soon as they enter in local.

- Consort with Hisec PVP corps and/or Mercenaries so they can wardec them in order to kill them before they may act.

- Use logistics in your mining ops, fit ECM drones, tank your hulks, protect yourselves.

- Distrust anyone warping to your bell. If you have no protection, report him in the Intel channel and warp out.

- Make sure to recruite more miners and mining corps to your cause. The more you are the better.

- Stop complaining, you're just feeding their egos and CCP won't help you.

You're welcome.


A good Mercenary corp is not that expensive and they really want targets so use and abuse of those, now with the new wardec changes this is probably waste of isk, but it's not like CCP did that intendedly Lol

brb
Bunnie Hop
Bunny Knights
#27 - 2012-05-30 11:08:23 UTC
Vaju Enki wrote:
Bunnie Hop wrote:
Vaju Enki wrote:
Bunnie Hop wrote:
Zoe Athame wrote:
[Rokh, Rokh - Anti-Gank Miner]



Endless cycle, miners adapt so that gankers can adapt..etc. Most of these miners also have paid for months of training time to fly their hulks with t2 crystals and strippers so now they are just supposed to walk away from that (paid) training time because CCP is letting the lunatics run the asylum. Why bother?


Your the lunatic around here. If you don't like sandbox games, don't play them.


This explains everything:

We’re seeing ever-more trash fits in EVE and “hey guyz i got blown up this is unpossible” forum rage - signs that this kind of passive, ignorant, and entitled player is infecting the playerbase and beginning to make demands that CCP change the nature of EVE itself to accommodate their stupidity. To prevent EVE from becoming a PvP-optional themepark of the sort that coddles this shameful demographic, something must be done - the players who actually do participate in the EVE community must either educate these people about the nature of the game, or blow them up. Through education or violence, they must learn that EVE’s difficulty is what makes the game unique and worthwhile, rather than just another consequence-free PvP-optional themepark game.
The Mittani


Thank you for taking the time away from kissing the goons butt to respond, though I disagree.



Of course you disagree, you are the typical theme park mindset player. But guess what, EvE is not a theme park mmo.


I am not a miner, I used to PvP. What I oppose is one large alliance dictating the terms on which a game is going to be played and all the brainless wonders who cheer them on. Who is Mittani (other than a spoiled egocentric *******) to tell people how they will play Eve from now on? Alliances should be more limited in size so that no one wields as much power in the game. Furthermore, what in the hell is a theme park mmo?
OmniBeton
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
#28 - 2012-05-30 11:16:52 UTC
Bunnie Hop wrote:

What I oppose is one large alliance dictating the terms on which a game is going to be played and all the brainless wonders who cheer them on. Who is Mittani (other than a spoiled egocentric *******) to tell people how they will play Eve from now on?


Essentially this
Vaerah Vahrokha
Vahrokh Consulting
#29 - 2012-05-30 11:18:55 UTC
Vaju Enki wrote:

This explains everything:

We’re seeing ever-more trash fits in EVE and “hey guyz i got blown up this is unpossible” forum rage - signs that this kind of passive, ignorant, and entitled player is infecting the playerbase and beginning to make demands that CCP change the nature of EVE itself to accommodate their stupidity. To prevent EVE from becoming a PvP-optional themepark of the sort that coddles this shameful demographic, something must be done - the players who actually do participate in the EVE community must either educate these people about the nature of the game, or blow them up. Through education or violence, they must learn that EVE’s difficulty is what makes the game unique and worthwhile, rather than just another consequence-free PvP-optional themepark game.
The Mittani


Lol the tirade! Did he hire James 315 to write those rants?

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Vaju Enki
Secular Wisdom
#30 - 2012-05-30 11:25:15 UTC
Bunnie Hop wrote:


I am not a miner, I used to PvP. What I oppose is one large alliance dictating the terms on which a game is going to be played and all the brainless wonders who cheer them on. Who is Mittani (other than a spoiled egocentric *******) to tell people how they will play Eve from now on? Alliances should be more limited in size so that no one wields as much power in the game. Furthermore, what in the hell is a theme park mmo?


I didn't say you where a miner, but the typical theme park mindset player. EvE Online is a Sandbox mmo, if you don't enjoy the genre, don't play it.

The Tears Must Flow
Roime
Mea Culpa.
Shadow Cartel
#31 - 2012-05-30 11:25:59 UTC
Bunnie Hop wrote:
I am not a miner, I used to PvP. What I oppose is one large alliance dictating the terms on which a game is going to be played and all the brainless wonders who cheer them on. Who is Mittani (other than a spoiled egocentric *******) to tell people how they will play Eve from now on? Alliances should be more limited in size so that no one wields as much power in the game. Furthermore, what in the hell is a theme park mmo?


The terms on which EVE Online is played have not changed.

What causes you to rage is a player-driven, dynamic event. The Mittani is only telling people that Goons will pay 10mil isk for every exhumer they shoot.

.
Bunnie Hop
Bunny Knights
#32 - 2012-05-30 11:27:58 UTC
Vaju Enki wrote:
Bunnie Hop wrote:


I am not a miner, I used to PvP. What I oppose is one large alliance dictating the terms on which a game is going to be played and all the brainless wonders who cheer them on. Who is Mittani (other than a spoiled egocentric *******) to tell people how they will play Eve from now on? Alliances should be more limited in size so that no one wields as much power in the game. Furthermore, what in the hell is a theme park mmo?


I didn't say you where a miner, but the typical theme park mindset player. EvE Online is a Sandbox mmo, if you don't enjoy the genre, don't play it.


I obviously enjoy the genre, that doesn't mean I will join on the brain dead bandwagon and cheer as one narcissistic idiot ruins the game all to further his own alliances agenda.
Vaju Enki
Secular Wisdom
#33 - 2012-05-30 11:35:14 UTC
Bunnie Hop wrote:
Vaju Enki wrote:
Bunnie Hop wrote:


I am not a miner, I used to PvP. What I oppose is one large alliance dictating the terms on which a game is going to be played and all the brainless wonders who cheer them on. Who is Mittani (other than a spoiled egocentric *******) to tell people how they will play Eve from now on? Alliances should be more limited in size so that no one wields as much power in the game. Furthermore, what in the hell is a theme park mmo?


I didn't say you where a miner, but the typical theme park mindset player. EvE Online is a Sandbox mmo, if you don't enjoy the genre, don't play it.


I obviously enjoy the genre, that doesn't mean I will join on the brain dead bandwagon and cheer as one narcissistic idiot ruins the game all to further his own alliances agenda.


No you don't ,it's obvious from your posts that you don't enjoy sandbox mmo's.

You are either ignorant on this subject or you are fooling yourself.

The Tears Must Flow
Bunnie Hop
Bunny Knights
#34 - 2012-05-30 11:37:58 UTC
Vaju Enki wrote:
Bunnie Hop wrote:
Vaju Enki wrote:
Bunnie Hop wrote:


I am not a miner, I used to PvP. What I oppose is one large alliance dictating the terms on which a game is going to be played and all the brainless wonders who cheer them on. Who is Mittani (other than a spoiled egocentric *******) to tell people how they will play Eve from now on? Alliances should be more limited in size so that no one wields as much power in the game. Furthermore, what in the hell is a theme park mmo?


I didn't say you where a miner, but the typical theme park mindset player. EvE Online is a Sandbox mmo, if you don't enjoy the genre, don't play it.


I obviously enjoy the genre, that doesn't mean I will join on the brain dead bandwagon and cheer as one narcissistic idiot ruins the game all to further his own alliances agenda.


No you don't ,it's obvious from your posts that you don't enjoy sandbox mmo's.

You are either ignorant on this subject or you are fooling yourself.


Ah well thanks for clearing that up. Having played off and on (mostly on) since June 03' I really needed someone to come along and tell me I don't like the game.
Vaju Enki
Secular Wisdom
#35 - 2012-05-30 11:39:40 UTC
Bunnie Hop wrote:
Vaju Enki wrote:
Bunnie Hop wrote:
Vaju Enki wrote:
Bunnie Hop wrote:


I am not a miner, I used to PvP. What I oppose is one large alliance dictating the terms on which a game is going to be played and all the brainless wonders who cheer them on. Who is Mittani (other than a spoiled egocentric *******) to tell people how they will play Eve from now on? Alliances should be more limited in size so that no one wields as much power in the game. Furthermore, what in the hell is a theme park mmo?


I didn't say you where a miner, but the typical theme park mindset player. EvE Online is a Sandbox mmo, if you don't enjoy the genre, don't play it.


I obviously enjoy the genre, that doesn't mean I will join on the brain dead bandwagon and cheer as one narcissistic idiot ruins the game all to further his own alliances agenda.


No you don't ,it's obvious from your posts that you don't enjoy sandbox mmo's.

You are either ignorant on this subject or you are fooling yourself.


Ah well thanks for clearing that up. Having played off and on (mostly on) since June 03' I really needed someone to come along and tell me I don't like the game.


9 years and you still don't understand the sandbox, this is just so very sad...

The Tears Must Flow
TarTar2050
Native Freshfood
Minmatar Republic
#36 - 2012-05-30 11:44:07 UTC
Marlona Sky wrote:
TheBig Bukowsky wrote:
- Create your own Hisec Mining INTEL channel with information about suicide gankers. Each time you spot any of them, call their name and the system they're in. If you've been suicide ganked, report that too.

- Add suicide gankers to your watchlist and warp-out as soon as they enter in local.

- Consort with Hisec PVP corps and/or Mercenaries so they can wardec them in order to kill them before they may act.

- Use logistics in your mining ops, fit ECM drones, tank your hulks, protect yourselves.

- Distrust anyone warping to your bell. If you have no protection, report him in the Intel channel and warp out.

- Make sure to recruite more miners and mining corps to your cause. The more you are the better.

- Stop complaining, you're just feeding their egos and CCP won't help you.

You're welcome.


I have better advice:

- Don't mine.

See, far easier to remember.




I have some advice for you don't' buy ships that miners make and leave Eve...you guys are going keep pushing until the miners do form some mega concurrence and we all pay dearly for it. Oh wait they did and Hulkaggeddon is their first project...suckers!!!!!!!
Rengerel en Distel
#37 - 2012-05-30 11:46:31 UTC
Vaju Enki wrote:
Bunnie Hop wrote:


I am not a miner, I used to PvP. What I oppose is one large alliance dictating the terms on which a game is going to be played and all the brainless wonders who cheer them on. Who is Mittani (other than a spoiled egocentric *******) to tell people how they will play Eve from now on? Alliances should be more limited in size so that no one wields as much power in the game. Furthermore, what in the hell is a theme park mmo?


I didn't say you where a miner, but the typical theme park mindset player. EvE Online is a Sandbox mmo, if you don't enjoy the genre, don't play it.


You keep throwing out the sandbox term, while telling people they're playing the game wrong ...

With the increase in shiptoasting, the Report timer needs to be shortened.
Dheeradj Nurgle
Hoover Inc.
Snuffed Out
#38 - 2012-05-30 11:48:37 UTC
+1 for OP. And for the love of the Gate, learn to tank your Hulk....
Vaju Enki
Secular Wisdom
#39 - 2012-05-30 11:54:19 UTC  |  Edited by: Vaju Enki
Rengerel en Distel wrote:
Vaju Enki wrote:
Bunnie Hop wrote:


I am not a miner, I used to PvP. What I oppose is one large alliance dictating the terms on which a game is going to be played and all the brainless wonders who cheer them on. Who is Mittani (other than a spoiled egocentric *******) to tell people how they will play Eve from now on? Alliances should be more limited in size so that no one wields as much power in the game. Furthermore, what in the hell is a theme park mmo?


I didn't say you where a miner, but the typical theme park mindset player. EvE Online is a Sandbox mmo, if you don't enjoy the genre, don't play it.


You keep throwing out the sandbox term, while telling people they're playing the game wrong ...


What wrong with saying the truth? If you don't enjoy player-driven sandbox games, you shouldn't play them, unless you are a glutton for punishment.

Some thing goes for theme park mmo's, if you don't enjoy "game on rails ride" type of experience, don't play them.

The Tears Must Flow
Julii Hakaari
Hakaari Inc.
#40 - 2012-05-30 12:00:44 UTC
No. What high sec miner should do is fight back. It's not that hard bunching together a lot of mining corporations within one alliance and utilize this power to declare war on those whom threatens the will of high sec miners.

Listen, listen, listen! This is not a hard thing to do! No matter what we think about GSF and their allies, they have this power to dictate because they took it - and you can take it too; their liberty is not greater than yours. Imagine the feeling of you and your 200 high sec miners paying a visit to a local 50 man corporation with another 130 in their pirate alliance; imagine the feeling when you stand victorious on the battlefield filled with frozen corpses - and the pirates are pirates no more.

But, yeah, sure. I guess a chat works too.

"Completely un-phased? You think I'm totally lacking in any phasing? The idea that I'm anything less than half-phased I actually find offensive. It greatly phases me."