EVE General Discussion

Hm, you'd have to do that then. Doesn't sound like a worthwhile manipulation for the ~goonies~.

The bottom line is money. That's all they care about. They hide behind shiney tradition and flimsy explanations, but anyone with a brain can see thru the transparent wall of crap created by the people in charge. The goal for them is the same as it has been since the beginning of time. Those with power seek more, and seek to keep down those without. It's human nature, and just because it's a virtual game doesnt make it one damn bit different. Scum who feed on others suffering are despicable in real life, and there despicable in the game. The pride they show in doing such is just there own stupidity and arrogance forming a shield to keep there tiny world from reflecting the horrible inner person they get to live there whole lives as. That's why there so focused on the game, where it's going, and what's going to happen; there little protective shield world is collapsing.

The same people who farm tears are the same people who have to laugh about it so they dont feel anything else. The game isnt even technically broken, it's the people who are. The same people who laugh about cruelty and selfishness are the same people who try with every bit of there being to avoid anything unpleasant, sad, or even just the lack of joy and fun in there lives. I pity the griefers. Life gets very old and boring when all you do is play all the time. If life has no hardships or pain, you lose appreciation of the good times, and all your left with is the ability to take joy in others pain. These people make up the majority of the 'sheeple' both in the real world and in the game, and therefore hold the majority of the power, particularly when teaming together.

Life is a banquet, embrace all of it, the pain and the joy, without both there is not reference for the other. If you experience joy all the time, the smallest bit of suffering will crush your soul, if you experience pain unending, the smallest moment of happiness becomes heaven. In this way, I believe goonswarm and their associates have become a true null product. Null in that they cant find fun in the game without causing problems for others. Tie in with that the craving for power and it's a volatile formula which concludes with those people becoming the architects of their own destruction.

Personally, I'm going to sit back and watch the big guys break apart slowly like a melting iceberg.

Right now I'm finding it rather amusing listening to all the 'reasons' they provide as excuses for there actions, when the fact is if what you we're doing werent wrong, you wouldnt need justification for it anyway, yet every day we see hundreds of posts about how tear farming is so much fun, Highsec this, Risk vs Reward that, Nullsec blah blah blah. Last I checked, when you do things right, you dont have to explain yourself, and they do an AWFUL lot of explaining.

Granted, but how often is Mantra and Bravado a component of any group whom does not need those components? Rare at best. Traditionally, only cults and sociopaths need such things. All my philosophical mumbo jumbo aside though, yeah, it's probably almost entirely about the money. Even power wouldnt be a concern for most if it didnt also bring in more money as well.

When it comes right down to it, to answer the question that is this threads title, Why does Goonswarm need the Indefinite Hulkageddon? Because there bored. Keep in mind Hulkageddon is only occuring becuase the people with the power and the money are running it. Do you think it would be Hulkageddon if they werent offering ISK rewards for it? Of course not, it'd just be like any other normal day in Eve. . .

The people in power are using that power to encourage and in some cases, force, everyone else to play the game in a way that is fun for them, and allows them to maintain and grow their power, quite simply.

as to why, well, research shows humans are hard-wired to enjoy meting out justice on third parties

and there is nothing more just than slaughtering you like swine

Well, see, that's what I'm saying. Look: Let's say someone wanted to stand up to Goonswarm and stop Unending Hulkageddon. Even if it's the "right" thing, it'll take some mantra and bravado to convince people to step up and fight. One of the basic tenets of EVE is that morality is gray, and very few actions are blatantly "good" or "bad." If a resistance to GSF is formed, and it somehow prevails, then what will happen next? Will things return to normal, or will the abrupt cessation of the massacre leave irreparable scars? We can't say for sure.

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you're not innocent, you're a plague and ought to be eradicated

just because you are a cockroach and unable to resist being stepped on does not make stepping on you any less right

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Think that sums it up.
They have to be that to come up with your "2 cold logical reasons"

Actually, in this case it would be to ignore it.

Me too. I'm really more of a missioner myself :P.

Also, I like that your name is "Sinistersly", yet you're chastising evil. Nice twist!

Hahaha, fair point, yes, I am sinful, I dont deny such, but I choose to both embrace my nature, and fight it to be better then my nature would allow. I honestly feel really bad for all those tear farmers who give in to their evil urges. It's a sign of a weak personality in my opinion, and I'm willing to bet most of those people would spout how they're 'embracing their freedom' or 'being true to their nature' in defense, when the fact is, if your doing either of those things you dont need to defend your actions.

I do sin, I enjoy junk food and soda (Gluttony), I enjoy screwing my girlfriend (Lust), I enjoy playing my video games (Sloth), I even desire things I do not have (Envy). There is a difference between sin and evil however. It's about moderation. The people who enjoy others pain dont know how to moderate, or how to find joy without causing harm, it's sad really that they dont have a will strong enough to stand up to their own desires, which in a sense, is their own will.

Even I have a few times in my life taken pleasure in the pain of someone else, it's not an uncommon trait, but I strive to fight back that nature, and to dominate it, because I am stronger then my sinful nature. Sad to see so many who are weaker then their sinful nature, which is only a portion, as others dont even attempt to fight back against it. Even if what those people did to me made it just for me to cause them pain, I still find it deplorable that I can take happiness from their suffering, and I embrace a way of life that strives to not do such.

The fact is, if sin is truely in the nature of humanity, then choosing to fight an endless battle against it is a sign of true inner strength.

A question about your name, is Haldor Rune a reference to something?