EVE General Discussion

The fact that more exhumers were destroyed this Hulkageddon than ever not only proves that more people are ganking, but also that more miners are letting themselves become a victim. Because it boggles the mind. No matter how many restrictions you put on suicide ganking or high sec griefing antics, people always find new and creative ways to circumvent the system or use the new features in their favour.

But this isn't the case for miners. I am really disappoint in the people that are doing this mind numbing, yet very important task within the game. I mean, I'm sure some indy mining corps take measures. From what I've seen most just go: stay docked. Very few actually bother to come up with a strategy or tactic to deny a gank or in some way circumvent death. The sheer amount of barges lost and the amount of barges lost owned by the same pilots... it shames all of us. There is a difference between being a carebear and being stupid.

The more I think about this, the more I realize that mining really does need to change. Mining is sitting in a very fragile, bulky ship that shoots lasers and slowly fills up the hull with space rock that can be refined into minerals to make money with in an array of different ways. If done properly, you'd be sitting there with a group of people all shooting lasers, with orca support, indies, maybe some logistics or a combat ship. Just sitting there.

So this got me thinking further... what kind of idiot came up with this game mechanic? Who thought it would be a good idea to implement this as the main source of materials for ships that are used in Internet space ****? It's the exact opposite of what Eve should be. Things in eve should be risky, but above that, things in eve should be exhilarating. Mining is NOT exhilarating. Well, maybe it is during Hulkageddon. If you are an idiot that is.

Now, I have the best solution for this. Instead of blasting space rocks with fragile ships, why not just mine the same way moon goo is mined? With a POS. That's like, two problems solved at once. You can mine the same ore you get from a asteroid field in that specific system. You still take risk because tools will dec you and blow up your pos. And you don't have to spend hours looking at rocks. The only thing left to ponder over is what to do with the existing asteroid fields.

Stopped reading there as it's not a violation of the rules to sandbox EVE.

Did I say it is a violation of rules?

I had suggested in F&I to make mining an addition to PI, and it was blasted by everyone that responded. For whatever reason, they have no problem with PI and moon mining being processes you could do without being logged in, but not mining. I don't know if it was simply gankers posting not wanting to lose their easy targets, or what really.

I'm a miner. Never been ganked. Never taken any sort of defensive measures to counter ganking. People complaining on the forum give us a bad rep.

I'm butthurd because of the sambal soaked dönner kebab I ate yesterday. My point is... if I ever had one. I don't know. Mining was a ******** concept from the start. People who do it and get ganked don't belong in Eve. And I see much tear potential in the "heavy duty" gankers who act like they're doing something special here.

Moon mining is a great idea. Just like PI but with more work involved and a good risk factor.

Lots of gankers don't travel very far from major/minor hubs. In the systems I mine in I've seen a single ganker all month.

To be creative I recently was involved in a mining fleet made up of 3 BS and an Orca. Even more boring than hulk mining since I have to empty my cargo every 30 seconds but still fairly profitable and much more lulz worthy.

How about a dual purpose command ship as an escort?

Could do some repping and provide a big boost to shield resistance as well.

The most common response I've heard are buff hulk tank or CONCORD, not a whole new ship, though.

But I guess they want something like a high-sec capable rorqural?

You must not visit the suggestions forum often. They've been coming up with these god awful carrier sized, high sec capable indy ships that do everything for years. Then they got the Orca and don't use it. I'm really curious on the statistical use of an Orca. I bet half of them are used for support in WH ops or other non mining stuff.