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Alia Gon'die
Outer Ring Applied Logistics
#441 - 2012-06-14 03:09:15 UTC
RubyPorto wrote:
OxY Neo wrote:
Alia Gon'die wrote:
OxY Neo wrote:
Frankly it is what you do that ? All you'll win is a flamed prices ORE, production lines are empty, the ships will become very very expensive ... It's on at the beginning of ISK you will, but after you weep before the price ... If you want to do PvP fight ye against the ships of your position, let the children do their job, because without us you have nothing to fight !


I like this post because I cannot understand a single sentence in it.



Gtranslate sorry, I'm french...

I'm just saying that this event is completely stupid ...
Because by killing the miners, the prices of ORE will greatly increase, prices of ships will also rise, while prices will rise !

Finally the miners will leave eve, and it will stay that large alliances ...
Ultimately you who kill the miners you are killing the game ...


It's possible that the gankers don't much care about the potential price increase (I say potential because prices haven't tended to increase during past HAGs).


Yeah, prices really haven't increased all that much during HAG< mostly because people stocked up like crazy beforehand.

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Alavaria Fera
GoonWaffe
#442 - 2012-06-14 04:32:23 UTC
Marlona Sky wrote:
Denarus Arran wrote:
Probably should trainup a catalyst pilot soon...

You should actually. The gankers need help ASAP. If you watch the Hulkaggedon kill board you will notice that fewer and fewer T2 mining barges are dying in high sec. Maybe one or two every hour or so. The novelty of the event wore off and now only the die hard participants are still doing it. Sadly for them they have all been added to the address books of miners. Even before I left the house this morning I was watching an ice belt that had 34 Mackinaws and 3 Orcas mining peacefully with zero issues from gankers.

So skill yourself in destroyers. The gankers could use the help.

Oh dear. Which ice belt would that be, I'm sure someone will love to collect 300mil from killing 30+ macks.

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No More Heroes
Boomer Humor
Snuffed Out
#443 - 2012-06-14 04:44:17 UTC  |  Edited by: No More Heroes
Marlona Sky wrote:
Denarus Arran wrote:
Probably should trainup a catalyst pilot soon...

You should actually. The gankers need help ASAP. If you watch the Hulkaggedon kill board you will notice that fewer and fewer T2 mining barges are dying in high sec. Maybe one or two every hour or so. The novelty of the event wore off and now only the die hard participants are still doing it. Sadly for them they have all been added to the address books of miners. Even before I left the house this morning I was watching an ice belt that had 34 Mackinaws and 3 Orcas mining peacefully with zero issues from gankers.

So skill yourself in destroyers. The gankers could use the help.


Ya know for someone in a corp called: massive pvpness and a decently active kb you seem to be awfully against non-consensual pvp. What gives? Or are you a member of the secretly wish to be recruited by hate goons community?

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Alavaria Fera
GoonWaffe
#444 - 2012-06-14 05:01:02 UTC
No More Heroes wrote:
Marlona Sky wrote:
You should actually. The gankers need help ASAP. If you watch the Hulkaggedon kill board you will notice that fewer and fewer T2 mining barges are dying in high sec. Maybe one or two every hour or so. The novelty of the event wore off and now only the die hard participants are still doing it. Sadly for them they have all been added to the address books of miners. Even before I left the house this morning I was watching an ice belt that had 34 Mackinaws and 3 Orcas mining peacefully with zero issues from gankers.

So skill yourself in destroyers. The gankers could use the help.

Ya know for someone in a corp called: massive pvpness and a decently active kb you seem to be awfully against non-consensual pvp. What gives? Or are you a member of the secretly wish to be recruited by hate goons community?

I'm sure it's because "ganking isn't pvp"

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Antisocial Malkavian
Antisocial Malkavians
#445 - 2012-07-09 00:28:16 UTC
Hows THIS thread get buried... perminant is perminant :p

And, isn't sanity really just a one-trick pony anyway? I mean all you get is one trick, rational thinking, but when you're good and crazy, oooh, oooh, oooh, the sky is the limit.

rodyas
Tie Fighters Inc
#446 - 2012-07-09 01:34:34 UTC
Why?

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Antisocial Malkavian
Antisocial Malkavians
#447 - 2012-07-09 04:17:01 UTC
rodyas wrote:
Why?


why what?

And, isn't sanity really just a one-trick pony anyway? I mean all you get is one trick, rational thinking, but when you're good and crazy, oooh, oooh, oooh, the sky is the limit.

Master Peanut
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#448 - 2012-07-09 06:28:50 UTC
Heres my 2 cents....

While being a carebear i dont care for Hulkaggedon to much BUT it does serve its purpose keeps the markets dynamic and kills off the stupid bot miners, i think we all agree we hate them with a passion.

The original purpose of Hulkaggedon was to kill off the bot miners which is great if i had the isk id pay the bountys myself.

But lately I really think Hulkggedon is just an excuse for just being annoying which is why i dont like the indefinite aspect.

Ex. I was mining with my corp in high sec just laid back having a good time and someone can flips a corp mate in a hulk and guns him down.. ( How he got canflipped i still dont know :P )

But it really seems counter-intuitive from the purpose of Hulkaggedon. The first thing you have to be in order to get can flipped ...... NOT afk and/or a bot( Unless theres some mining bot that can flipping is a successful tactic to use. I have no idea i dont follow mining bots)

Basically, If Hulkaggedon stays on its original goal i say run it all year round every second of every day. Cleanse the universe of mining bots.

But, if Hulkaggedon is just the latest excuse to be partake in some douchebaggery and kill everyone in carebear space. Then i believe it should be limited to a season. 1 or 2 months of douchebaggery is enough. As for what goes on in low/null sec i dont care once you get that message that your on your own at a gate you accept what ever fate comes your way.

Im not Q_Q ing cause i know thats what everyone will say "Aww look at the poor Q_Q carebear :P" I just felt like offering my 2 cents. Not like i even lost my ship just a corp mate who fell pray to a canflipper/ Hulkaggedon participant ( though i cant confirm the second part ) If i lost my own ship then there may be a hint of rage / Q_Qing in me :P
Antisocial Malkavian
Antisocial Malkavians
#449 - 2012-07-09 06:53:04 UTC
Master Peanut wrote:
Heres my 2 cents....

While being a carebear i dont care for Hulkaggedon to much BUT it does serve its purpose keeps the markets dynamic



lol think about this for a second; Tech is used in every T2 item yes? So.... for every 10 hulks and fits destroyed OTEC makes a hell of a lot more than they pay out lol

THATS its purpose

And, isn't sanity really just a one-trick pony anyway? I mean all you get is one trick, rational thinking, but when you're good and crazy, oooh, oooh, oooh, the sky is the limit.

Richard Desturned
Royal Amarr Institute
Amarr Empire
#450 - 2012-07-09 07:07:13 UTC
Remember friends, we have extended Hulkageddon to T1 barges - gank 10 and you will receive a 25M payout. Ten exhumer kills will still get you 100M as always!

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Antisocial Malkavian
Antisocial Malkavians
#451 - 2012-07-09 07:22:00 UTC  |  Edited by: Antisocial Malkavian
Richard Desturned wrote:
Remember friends, we have extended Hulkageddon to T1 barges - gank 10 and you will receive a 25M payout. Ten exhumer kills will still get you 100M as always!


Why not extend it to all mining ships entirely? Oh and all industrial ships too. So they cant haul either
and hey Freighters too?

And, isn't sanity really just a one-trick pony anyway? I mean all you get is one trick, rational thinking, but when you're good and crazy, oooh, oooh, oooh, the sky is the limit.

MinefieldS
1 Sick Duck Standss on something
#452 - 2012-07-09 07:27:49 UTC
Antisocial Malkavian wrote:
Richard Desturned wrote:
Remember friends, we have extended Hulkageddon to T1 barges - gank 10 and you will receive a 25M payout. Ten exhumer kills will still get you 100M as always!


Why not extend it to all mining ships entirely? Oh and all industrial ships too. So they cant haul either
and hey Freighters too?

A great idea.
Alavaria Fera
GoonWaffe
#453 - 2012-07-09 07:28:23 UTC
Master Peanut wrote:
But, if Hulkaggedon is just the latest excuse to be partake in some douchebaggery and kill everyone in carebear space. Then i believe it should be limited to a season. 1 or 2 months of douchebaggery is enough.

Oh my. Pity people can't opt out of PvP in EVE Online, a real harsh experience.

Time for the "ganking isn't PvP" song and dance brigade, up next.

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Antisocial Malkavian
Antisocial Malkavians
#454 - 2012-07-09 07:29:19 UTC
MinefieldS wrote:
Antisocial Malkavian wrote:
Richard Desturned wrote:
Remember friends, we have extended Hulkageddon to T1 barges - gank 10 and you will receive a 25M payout. Ten exhumer kills will still get you 100M as always!


Why not extend it to all mining ships entirely? Oh and all industrial ships too. So they cant haul either
and hey Freighters too?

A great idea.


thats what Im saying
My main moved to 0.0 so if all of high sec gets further screwed I dont care lol

And, isn't sanity really just a one-trick pony anyway? I mean all you get is one trick, rational thinking, but when you're good and crazy, oooh, oooh, oooh, the sky is the limit.

Caitlyn Tufy
Perkone
Caldari State
#455 - 2012-07-09 07:31:00 UTC
Antisocial Malkavian wrote:
lol think about this for a second; Tech is used in every T2 item yes? So.... for every 10 hulks and fits destroyed OTEC makes a hell of a lot more than they pay out lol

THATS its purpose


Of course it is, just as isk was the reason for pretty much every sponsored "emergent gameplay" event - there is no such thing as charity in EvE, there's just the pupeteers and the puppets that fall for it.

That said, it's true that to some extent, it's miners' own fault to be an easy target. There are steps to prevent being ganked or at least severely reduce the possiblity. Can a ship die anyway? Of course it can, nobody is 100% safe as soon as he undocks. But it's a hell of a lot harder to gank a tanked Hulk or a mining Rokh than it is to blow up a completely naked Hulk.
Antisocial Malkavian
Antisocial Malkavians
#456 - 2012-07-09 07:33:18 UTC
Caitlyn Tufy wrote:
Antisocial Malkavian wrote:
lol think about this for a second; Tech is used in every T2 item yes? So.... for every 10 hulks and fits destroyed OTEC makes a hell of a lot more than they pay out lol

THATS its purpose


Of course it is, just as isk was the reason for pretty much every sponsored "emergent gameplay" event - there is no such thing as charity in EvE, there's just the pupeteers and the puppets that fall for it.

That said, it's true that to some extent, it's miners' own fault to be an easy target. There are steps to prevent being ganked or at least severely reduce the possiblity. Can a ship die anyway? Of course it can, nobody is 100% safe as soon as he undocks. But it's a hell of a lot harder to gank a tanked Hulk or a mining Rokh than it is to blow up a completely naked Hulk.


I juast think its funny that ppl think theres some mystical reason other than this involved

And, isn't sanity really just a one-trick pony anyway? I mean all you get is one trick, rational thinking, but when you're good and crazy, oooh, oooh, oooh, the sky is the limit.

Master Peanut
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#457 - 2012-07-09 07:43:35 UTC
Antisocial Malkavian wrote:
Master Peanut wrote:
Heres my 2 cents....

While being a carebear i dont care for Hulkaggedon to much BUT it does serve its purpose keeps the markets dynamic



lol think about this for a second; Tech is used in every T2 item yes? So.... for every 10 hulks and fits destroyed OTEC makes a hell of a lot more than they pay out lol

THATS its purpose


That can still be achieved by killing only bot miners, which was the basic original message for halkaggedon.

And why bother with this whole T1 barge campaign then ? as the guy above me posted with great timing.

Im not against hulkaggedon it spices things up. But this whole persistent aspect really is annoying for people who want to legitimately mine carebear space. Goto any .9-1.0 system and fry some hulks im betting you, you will be killing a lot of botters who will have to replace there hulk and think about there career in botting. Not counting what ever gets killed in low/null sec.

Idk the carebear inside me screams leave the legitimate carebears alone... but it does keep you on your toes so im kinda torn :P

Keep this up and you might crash the high sec demand for hulks.. seriously. then everyone loses. The amount of high sec mining needed to fund a hulk is a long time. Then factor your getting a noticeable but still not substantial output increase over a cheap ( And target wise less desirable ) covetor. It brings into question is a hulk really worth it. Then compare that with mission running and your really starting to make mining look like a waste of time.

A well rounded orca supported mining op can out isk lvl 4 running. But if anyone loses a hulk your lucky to break even.

I know everyone says your not playing eve till you drop the carebear act and go out to null sec. Which may be partially true but thats why they made jump clones. Ill live in high sec with the carebears ( who are actually quite a fun bunch ) and goto null sec when the need comes up. With my current employment status that dosnt seem like it will be happening anytime soon but I guess im as ready as a carebear with minimal pvp experience would ever be :)
Antisocial Malkavian
Antisocial Malkavians
#458 - 2012-07-09 07:55:09 UTC  |  Edited by: Antisocial Malkavian
Richard Desturned wrote:
Remember friends, we have extended Hulkageddon to T1 barges - gank 10 and you will receive a 25M payout. Ten exhumer kills will still get you 100M as always!


Wait when WERENT they killing t1s? They have been all along as far as Ive known lol Its just cheaper to replace a covetor than a Hulk

Master Peanut wrote:


That can still be achieved by killing only bot miners, which was the basic original message for halkaggedon.



It was the original pretense, yes. The last couple Helicity sponsored events noted that was in fact a lie and the original reason/message was for "tear collection"

And, isn't sanity really just a one-trick pony anyway? I mean all you get is one trick, rational thinking, but when you're good and crazy, oooh, oooh, oooh, the sky is the limit.

Patrakele
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#459 - 2012-07-09 09:42:26 UTC
Send me 100 mil isk to purchase ships necessary to destroy hulks.
The Protato
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
#460 - 2012-07-09 12:05:13 UTC
Who the hell necro'd this?