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Goonswarm Federation: Sponsoring Emergent Gameplay!

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No More Heroes
Boomer Humor
Snuffed Out
#421 - 2012-06-12 18:30:18 UTC
Wingmate wrote:
if it's boring, why do people still do it? mining is boring but it makes isk. missions are boring, but they make isk. therefore...


Because I wanna shoot people, violence boats, blow **** up, you see? If I can't find anyone to shoot or the reds are all docked up I will look for victims, (hapless miners who wanna do nothing but mine in a pvp-centric game) stop being a victim.

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Alia Gon'die
Outer Ring Applied Logistics
#422 - 2012-06-12 18:48:58 UTC
See, the thing is, mining in a pvp-centric game isn't a bad thing. Doing nothing BUT mining in a pvp-centric game is a little sad. Whining about how you are being PVPed in a pvp-centric game is why we shoot hulks.

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highonpop
KarmaFleet
Goonswarm Federation
#423 - 2012-06-12 18:57:48 UTC
BUMPING FOR GOOD MEASURE!!

FC, what do?

Marlona Sky
State War Academy
Caldari State
#424 - 2012-06-12 18:58:05 UTC
I've actually been enjoying the AFK PvP aspect of this event. Grab Hulk/Mackinaw, tank it out, go to belt, launch drones, collect ganker tears.
Darth Gustav
Sith Interstellar Tech Harvesting
#425 - 2012-06-12 18:58:08 UTC  |  Edited by: Darth Gustav
Alia Gon'die wrote:
See, the thing is, mining in a pvp-centric game isn't a bad thing. Doing nothing BUT mining in a pvp-centric game is a little sad. Whining about how you are being PVPed in a pvp-centric game is why we shoot hulks.

You made me think of a story!

Story Time!

Back in 2003, I used to play this incredibly terrible 8 bit PVP game that was free. I don't know why but it held my attention for a long time despite being very, very terrible. For those wondering, you can look it up to see how terrible it was. It was called Well of Souls. And it was terrible.

But the PVP was pretty compelling actually. Really compelling. There were just enough ways to win that every fight was different.

Anyway, one of the most prevalent things noobs did in this game was run away from PVP. See, PVP happened in a "camp" and you could "leave camp." Which gave rise to the derisive, "Run it, noob!" Which was reiterated any time anyone ever left the camp without taking their loss. Which happened all the time, as people are risk-averse and wish to pad their stats even in 8 bit crappy PVP games.

Fast-forward to Eve: Miners could take a cue from the noobs of Well of Souls. If they take the right precautions they can always clear the field before the gankers engage. Only by being more brave than anybody could reasonably expect and basically clumping in stationary (non-running-noob) packs do they risk anything at all.

The moral of the story? Why not run it, noobs?

He who trolls trolls best when he who is trolled trolls the troller. -Darth Gustav's Axiom

Wingmate
Perkone
Caldari State
#426 - 2012-06-12 19:11:02 UTC
Alia Gon'die wrote:
See, the thing is, mining in a pvp-centric game isn't a bad thing. Doing nothing BUT mining in a pvp-centric game is a little sad. Whining about how you are being PVPed in a pvp-centric game is why we shoot hulks.


posting with your alt to whine about people who build the **** that allows you to pvp in a pvp-centric game is even stupider than mining in high-sec as a job =)

i make spreadsheets for pretty cheap. contact me for more info.

https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=197433

Darth Gustav
Sith Interstellar Tech Harvesting
#427 - 2012-06-12 19:16:49 UTC
Wingmate wrote:
Alia Gon'die wrote:
See, the thing is, mining in a pvp-centric game isn't a bad thing. Doing nothing BUT mining in a pvp-centric game is a little sad. Whining about how you are being PVPed in a pvp-centric game is why we shoot hulks.


posting with your alt to whine about people who build the **** that allows you to pvp in a pvp-centric game is even stupider than mining in high-sec as a job =)

It's called desperation when you have to call vicious mockery and laughter "whining."

Also, mine aligned and warp at the first sign of a neutral. Yes, this means you can't mine AFK safely.

There are other professions in Eve that earn higher income levels than mining. All of them are at least partially ATK, too.

The above information is provided to ensure that this post is not lacking relevant content.

I really just wanted to limit my reply to "LOL" though if we're being honest here.

He who trolls trolls best when he who is trolled trolls the troller. -Darth Gustav's Axiom

No More Heroes
Boomer Humor
Snuffed Out
#428 - 2012-06-12 19:18:28 UTC
Wingmate wrote:
Alia Gon'die wrote:
See, the thing is, mining in a pvp-centric game isn't a bad thing. Doing nothing BUT mining in a pvp-centric game is a little sad. Whining about how you are being PVPed in a pvp-centric game is why we shoot hulks.


posting with your alt to whine about people who build the **** that allows you to pvp in a pvp-centric game is even stupider than mining in high-sec as a job =)


I don't do 'jobs' in games. My real life one is enough.

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Wu Jiaqiu
#429 - 2012-06-12 19:26:15 UTC
Miners. Get instalocking arty canes in your fleets. Problem solved.
Denarus Arran
Brutor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#430 - 2012-06-12 19:28:17 UTC
Probably should trainup a catalyst pilot soon...

PEWPEWPEW

Pinstar Colton
Sweet Asteroid Acres
#431 - 2012-06-12 19:34:35 UTC  |  Edited by: Pinstar Colton
Alia Gon'die wrote:
See, the thing is, mining in a pvp-centric game isn't a bad thing. Doing nothing BUT mining in a pvp-centric game is a little sad. Whining about how you are being PVPed in a pvp-centric game is why we shoot hulks.



There is nothing wrong with doing nothing but mining (or other industrial activities) in a PVP centered game. There are some of us who interpret "PVP" to mean "Predator vs Prey" and take joy in economic activities while dodging gankers. Truth be told, I wouldn't enjoy being an industrialist nearly as much if I didn't have the threat of gankers looming over me. It not only makes me plan my economic activities more carefully to reduce risk, it makes me refine my craft to maximize my isk so that even if I do get ganked a couple times, I still ultimately profit from my efforts.

It is this fact that makes me put more thought and effort into this game then any other game I've played. It also makes successfully reaping the benefits of my activities all the more satisfying, knowing that the threat of loss and failure would snatch that away from me if I got careless. That is why I choose to live in low sec.

I *DO* agree that the whining is annoying and counter-productive. Risk-adverse industrialists should focus their energies on finding in-game ways to reduce their risk and thus improve their income rather than yelling on the forums in hopes that CCP will beat gankers with a nerf bat.

In the cat-and-mouse game that is low sec, there is no shame in learning to be a better mouse.

Marlona Sky
State War Academy
Caldari State
#432 - 2012-06-12 19:38:40 UTC
Denarus Arran wrote:
Probably should trainup a catalyst pilot soon...

You should actually. The gankers need help ASAP. If you watch the Hulkaggedon kill board you will notice that fewer and fewer T2 mining barges are dying in high sec. Maybe one or two every hour or so. The novelty of the event wore off and now only the die hard participants are still doing it. Sadly for them they have all been added to the address books of miners. Even before I left the house this morning I was watching an ice belt that had 34 Mackinaws and 3 Orcas mining peacefully with zero issues from gankers.

So skill yourself in destroyers. The gankers could use the help.
Alia Gon'die
Outer Ring Applied Logistics
#433 - 2012-06-12 19:56:04 UTC  |  Edited by: Alia Gon'die
Wingmate wrote:
Alia Gon'die wrote:
See, the thing is, mining in a pvp-centric game isn't a bad thing. Doing nothing BUT mining in a pvp-centric game is a little sad. Whining about how you are being PVPed in a pvp-centric game is why we shoot hulks.


posting with your alt to whine about people who build the **** that allows you to pvp in a pvp-centric game is even stupider than mining in high-sec as a job =)


I'm only posting with an alt because my main account is unsubbed because I am broke as hell.

My main is Andrey Wartooth, a nullsec miner.

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OxY Neo
Raiders of Eden Roids
#434 - 2012-06-14 02:26:27 UTC
Frankly it is what you do that ? All you'll win is a flamed prices ORE, production lines are empty, the ships will become very very expensive ... It's on at the beginning of ISK you will, but after you weep before the price ... If you want to do PvP fight ye against the ships of your position, let the children do their job, because without us you have nothing to fight !
RubyPorto
RubysRhymes
#435 - 2012-06-14 02:28:33 UTC
OxY Neo wrote:
Frankly it is what you do that ? All you'll win is a flamed prices ORE, production lines are empty, the ships will become very very expensive ... It's on at the beginning of ISK you will, but after you weep before the price ... If you want to do PvP fight ye against the ships of your position, let the children do their job, because without us you have nothing to fight !


You're dead clever, you.

"It's easy to speak for the silent majority. They rarely object to what you put into their mouths." -Abrazzar "the risk of having your day ruined by other people is the cornerstone with which EVE was built" -CCP Solomon

OxY Neo
Raiders of Eden Roids
#436 - 2012-06-14 02:38:10 UTC
RubyPorto wrote:
OxY Neo wrote:
Frankly it is what you do that ? All you'll win is a flamed prices ORE, production lines are empty, the ships will become very very expensive ... It's on at the beginning of ISK you will, but after you weep before the price ... If you want to do PvP fight ye against the ships of your position, let the children do their job, because without us you have nothing to fight !


You're dead clever, you.



I do not sucomber a "suicide gank" into belt, why are you telling me?
Alia Gon'die
Outer Ring Applied Logistics
#437 - 2012-06-14 02:39:32 UTC
OxY Neo wrote:
Frankly it is what you do that ? All you'll win is a flamed prices ORE, production lines are empty, the ships will become very very expensive ... It's on at the beginning of ISK you will, but after you weep before the price ... If you want to do PvP fight ye against the ships of your position, let the children do their job, because without us you have nothing to fight !


I like this post because I cannot understand a single sentence in it.

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OxY Neo
Raiders of Eden Roids
#438 - 2012-06-14 02:47:29 UTC  |  Edited by: OxY Neo
Alia Gon'die wrote:
OxY Neo wrote:
Frankly it is what you do that ? All you'll win is a flamed prices ORE, production lines are empty, the ships will become very very expensive ... It's on at the beginning of ISK you will, but after you weep before the price ... If you want to do PvP fight ye against the ships of your position, let the children do their job, because without us you have nothing to fight !


I like this post because I cannot understand a single sentence in it.



Gtranslate sorry, I'm french...

I'm just saying that this event is completely stupid ...
Because by killing the miners, the prices of ORE will greatly increase, prices of ships will also rise, while prices will rise !

Finally the miners will leave eve, and it will stay that large alliances ...
Ultimately you who kill the miners you are killing the game ...
RubyPorto
RubysRhymes
#439 - 2012-06-14 03:02:24 UTC
OxY Neo wrote:
RubyPorto wrote:
OxY Neo wrote:
Frankly it is what you do that ? All you'll win is a flamed prices ORE, production lines are empty, the ships will become very very expensive ... It's on at the beginning of ISK you will, but after you weep before the price ... If you want to do PvP fight ye against the ships of your position, let the children do their job, because without us you have nothing to fight !


You're dead clever, you.



I do not sucomber a "suicide gank" into belt, why are you telling me?


I get that you're french (I was born there, actually, though I've entirely lost my capacity for the language), but I have no earthly idea what you said there. If you could rephrase it (or maybe just post it in french so I could use google translate), maybe that would help the conversation?
I honestly can't understand the sentence, I don't troll people about their skill at speaking a second language when I have no such skill.

"It's easy to speak for the silent majority. They rarely object to what you put into their mouths." -Abrazzar "the risk of having your day ruined by other people is the cornerstone with which EVE was built" -CCP Solomon

RubyPorto
RubysRhymes
#440 - 2012-06-14 03:05:24 UTC
OxY Neo wrote:
Alia Gon'die wrote:
OxY Neo wrote:
Frankly it is what you do that ? All you'll win is a flamed prices ORE, production lines are empty, the ships will become very very expensive ... It's on at the beginning of ISK you will, but after you weep before the price ... If you want to do PvP fight ye against the ships of your position, let the children do their job, because without us you have nothing to fight !


I like this post because I cannot understand a single sentence in it.



Gtranslate sorry, I'm french...

I'm just saying that this event is completely stupid ...
Because by killing the miners, the prices of ORE will greatly increase, prices of ships will also rise, while prices will rise !

Finally the miners will leave eve, and it will stay that large alliances ...
Ultimately you who kill the miners you are killing the game ...


It's possible that the gankers don't much care about the potential price increase (I say potential because prices haven't tended to increase during past HAGs).

"It's easy to speak for the silent majority. They rarely object to what you put into their mouths." -Abrazzar "the risk of having your day ruined by other people is the cornerstone with which EVE was built" -CCP Solomon