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Goonswarm announces infinite Hulkageddon Payouts

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Ranger 1
Ranger Corp
Vae. Victis.
#81 - 2012-05-29 21:41:03 UTC  |  Edited by: Ranger 1
Desimus Maximus wrote:
As weak as 'Burn' Jita was, and as much of a yawn as this year's Hulkageddon was, I am still disturbed that CCP all but sanctions this sort of douchebaggery from a group whose admitted purpose, if you can call it a purpose for existence at all, is to ruin everyone else's game. I have been a dedicated EvE player for 3 years, experiencing nearly every avenue the game has to offer.

I've made my own stupid mistakes. I've stolen from other's wrecks and cans. I've PvP'd, solo and fleet. I've lived in null defending and conquering space. I've helped secure systems for station installations. I've bought and traded. I've built and reprocessed. I've spent weeks mining in highsec. I've bought, sold, and fit ships billions of ISK at a time. I've helped pop caps, I've been podded by cap ships. I've spent endless weeks and months skilling for the career that this game, EvE Online, promised me. The only problem is that EvE Online has betrayed me and tens of thousands of other players.

One of CCPs major selling points is that you get to choose your path. Is this true? No. It seemed to be in my beginnings, but in the last year, it is clear that you have no choice. You must PvP. You have no choice. You must stay away from the greatest tools in the game because you will lose it, regardless of the year of skilling it took to perfect your skills. You have no choice.

The term High Sec is a lie. That is all there is to it. I can tolerate a month of mindless ganks which in the end carry little to no profit for the gankers. Even after a 100m bounty, that is greatly cut into by the losses to CONCORD.

The game is setup for those who seek PvP (can you really call ganking a mining ship PvP?) to easily find it in the larger portion of the map of New Eden. But they choose to avoid real conflict by somehow expressing their own ineptitude in Real Life as taking advantage of helpless resource gatherers.

It is this 'threat' that Hulkageddon is now to continue indefinitely that has crossed the line for me, and I'm sure with tens of thousands of others.

High sec ganking MUST carry greater penalties. High Security suggests 'HIGH SECURITY' . Even attaching penalties to account via CC# to prevent creating another char and having another ganker in a matter of hours.

This new threat has crossed the line. I have spent the better part of a YEAR skilling for a career path that I was promised by EvE Online and it was nothing but a lie.

I have 3 active accounts, and a 4th that I hope(d) to resume soon, since Hulkageddon was supposed to be over. I have spent a lot of RL $$$ on PLEXes, better part of $1,000 over 3 yrs I'm estimating, not to mention the months and months of subscription fees when I chose not to use PLEX.

For me personally, I am giving CCP 30 days to take real action and make good on their promises they made to all of us. If I see no action, my accounts will be cancelled until they pull their heads out of their asses.

I hope every player who feels the same will take similar action. I'm just done with being forced into someone else's game simply because they don't have the balls to pick a real fight.


At the risk of putting this thread back on topic, I will point out that learning how to AVOID PVP has always been an intergal part of the mining profession.

If you didn't understand that before, you need to understand it now.

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Serene Repose
#82 - 2012-05-30 00:10:29 UTC  |  Edited by: Serene Repose
Snow Burst wrote:
Llywelyn Emrys wrote:
Snow Burst wrote:
your blatently american...


Jealous?

why would i be jealouse of the nation that invades every country that has oil stands for no good is a false democracy and is amazingly racist against their leader :s that doesnt make any sense im quite fine being here

Yeah. Putin has democracy down to an artform, eh? Stuff the ballot boxes. Arrest anyone who complains.
Lead By Example (LBE)

Ganking miners isn't PvP. Knifing the neighbors cat isn't a joke. ("I was just joking.") Ganking miners isn't PvP.
However, there is a diagnosis for those who say it is. Seek therapy. Seriously.

We must accommodate the idiocracy.

Oraac Ensor
#83 - 2012-05-30 00:54:11 UTC
Snow Burst wrote:
rofl us brits HATE america and most of western europe hates america to especially france n germany cuz of u guys forcing us into the iraq war wen we didnt want to go. so what you guys had problems why shud we pay tax to fight the war for u.

Er . . . exactly who elected you to speak for all Brits?

Read up on current affairs, you prat - nobody forced the UK into anything. Well, unless you count the Taliban and Al Qaeda.
Alavaria Fera
GoonWaffe
#84 - 2012-05-30 01:02:00 UTC
Ranger 1 wrote:
At the risk of putting this thread back on topic, I will point out that learning how to AVOID PVP has always been an intergal part of the mining profession.

If you didn't understand that before, you need to understand it now.

There's a difference between taking steps to avoid the pvp VS whining at CCP to remove it from you.

One is a commendable way of handling risk - and it probably isn't the latter.

Triggered by: Wars of Sovless Agression, Bending the Knee, Twisting the Knife, Eating Sov Wheaties, Bombless Bombers, Fizzlesov, Interceptor Fleets, Running Away, GhostTime Vuln, Renters, Bombs, Bubbles ?

Nick Bison
Bison Industrial Inc
Cat Scratch Fevers
#85 - 2012-05-30 01:05:13 UTC
Wonder when CCP will start locking all these threads on the same topic?

Nothing clever at this time.

Darth Kilth
KarmaFleet
Goonswarm Federation
#86 - 2012-05-30 01:09:44 UTC  |  Edited by: Darth Kilth
Nick Bison wrote:
Wonder when CCP will start locking all these threads on the same topic?

Once they stop enjoying all the tears from people who see all their illogical statements crash into them self?

My guess is the mods don't really care as long as the topics aren't critiscing the latest expansion or Soundwaves new hairstyle.
Misanth
RABBLE RABBLE RABBLE
#87 - 2012-05-30 01:29:45 UTC
Darth Kilth wrote:
Nick Bison wrote:
Wonder when CCP will start locking all these threads on the same topic?

Once they stop enjoying all the tears from people who see all their illogical statements crash into them self?

My guess is the mods don't really care as long as the topics aren't critiscing the latest expansion or Soundwaves new hairstyle.


Both the tears and the cheers come from the same posters, just depends which alt they're on. That's why they don't have time to log their forum mods and/or GM's and pretend to clean up this mess. Blink

AFK-cloaking in a system near you.

Akai Kvaesir
Itsukame-Zainou Hyperspatial Inquiries Ltd.
#88 - 2012-05-30 02:22:49 UTC
Mathias Hex wrote:
THE L0CK wrote:
Snow Burst wrote:
THE L0CK wrote:


All that time and they never covered basic sentence structure and spelling? It must have been in those extra years that they cut out.

or just after work i cba to type fully... you no what work is? a job? its what people have to pay your benefits



I don't no work, but I know work. It's those places you go to after you get an education. I heard many of them prefer basic reading and writing skills.


American education system +1 EU...well I can see the benifits all through this thread. Or maybe us americans just do not know how to speak PROPER english.

Now all you Europeans should know (no) US doesn't invade countries for oil, no (know) we invade them to rebuild there schools and infrastructure and to teach them proper American english that is all. Oh and also because we like to **** **** up then rebuild it for free, you see countries we invade love us Big smile


Yeah man, keep telling yourself we're trying to build better stuff for Iraq and Afghanistan. It had nothing to do with AQ, 9/11, Halliburton/KBR making billions off the buildings your claiming are so important to the mission, and especially nothing to do with post-colonial imperialism.

I'm sure the world looks so nice and cozy out there, but your suburb isn't America. Try going on a drive to that part of town that doesn't exist anymore. Or Detroit.

Also, I love the typical Goon response of turning any attempt at legitimate discussion, such as can be had on an internet forum, into a utterly pointless and factually irrelevant argument. Good job ruining my game!

(commence the flaming, your rage fuels my ship.)

Frogblast the Vent Core! When the W'rkncacnter came, Pthia was killed, and Yrro in anger, flung the W'rkncacnter into the sun. The sun burned them, but they swam on its surface.

Alia Gon'die
Outer Ring Applied Logistics
#89 - 2012-05-30 02:28:36 UTC
Snow Burst wrote:
Llywelyn Emrys wrote:
Snow Burst wrote:
your blatently american...


Jealous?

why would i be jealouse of the nation that invades every country that has oil stands for no good is a false democracy and is amazingly racist against their leader :s that doesnt make any sense im quite fine being here


Russia is the only true democracy, right?

Self-appointed forums hallway monitor Ask me about La Maison and what it means for you! http://bit.ly/LTW5gW These wardec rules are not in place for our protection. They're in place for yours.

Alia Gon'die
Outer Ring Applied Logistics
#90 - 2012-05-30 02:33:11 UTC
Serene Repose wrote:
Snow Burst wrote:
Llywelyn Emrys wrote:
Snow Burst wrote:
your blatently american...


Jealous?

why would i be jealouse of the nation that invades every country that has oil stands for no good is a false democracy and is amazingly racist against their leader :s that doesnt make any sense im quite fine being here

Yeah. Putin has democracy down to an artform, eh? Stuff the ballot boxes. Arrest anyone who complains.
Lead By Example (LBE)

Ganking miners isn't PvP. Knifing the neighbors cat isn't a joke. ("I was just joking.") Ganking miners isn't PvP.
However, there is a diagnosis for those who say it is. Seek therapy. Seriously.


It's funny, the first paragraph is right, then the first sentence of the second paragraph is wrong (ganking miners is market PVP), then right about the second sentence there, then you repeat your first claim.

And I also have to ask, are you REALLY comparing shooting space pixels for a profit in a video game to animal cruelty? Maybe you'd like to compare Hulkageddon to RL ethnic cleansing while we're talking out of our buttes.

Self-appointed forums hallway monitor Ask me about La Maison and what it means for you! http://bit.ly/LTW5gW These wardec rules are not in place for our protection. They're in place for yours.

Powers Sa
#91 - 2012-05-30 03:16:17 UTC
Nick Bison wrote:
Wonder when CCP will start locking all these threads on the same topic?

Good question Krixtal, you tell me.
Serene Repose wrote:
Ganking miners isn't PvP. Knifing the neighbors cat isn't a joke. ("I was just joking.") Ganking miners isn't PvP.
However, there is a diagnosis for those who say it is. Seek therapy. Seriously.

One player killing another player is what?
Just because it isn't consensual doesn't make it not PVP.

You are not entitled to safety just because you do not have guns on your ship. The sense of entitlement when it comes to safety completely baffles me.

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Alavaria Fera
GoonWaffe
#92 - 2012-05-30 04:09:28 UTC
Powers Sa wrote:
Serene Repose wrote:
Ganking miners isn't PvP. Knifing the neighbors cat isn't a joke. ("I was just joking.") Ganking miners isn't PvP.
However, there is a diagnosis for those who say it is. Seek therapy. Seriously.

One player killing another player is what?
Just because it isn't consensual doesn't make it not PVP.

You are not entitled to safety just because you do not have guns on your ship. The sense of entitlement when it comes to safety completely baffles me.

It's a player .. executing player?

Triggered by: Wars of Sovless Agression, Bending the Knee, Twisting the Knife, Eating Sov Wheaties, Bombless Bombers, Fizzlesov, Interceptor Fleets, Running Away, GhostTime Vuln, Renters, Bombs, Bubbles ?