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CNR Lvl 4 Fit

Author
Subdivide
State Protectorate
Caldari State
#1 - 2012-05-29 07:26:51 UTC  |  Edited by: Subdivide
Raven Navy Issue

Highs:
7x Cruise Missile Launcher II
1x Drone Link Augmentor I

Meds:
X-Large Ancillary Shield Booster
3x Rat Specific Hardener (example: 2x EM, 1x THERM)
2x Phased Weapon Navigation Array Generation Extron

Lows:
4x Ballistic Control Unit II
1x Co-processor II

Rigs:
Large Warhead Rigor Catalyst I

Drones:
5x Hobgoblin II
5x Hammerhead II


5x Cap booster 800 in the X-Large Ancillary + 15 extra in cargo, can fit 3700 cruise missiles


Working quite nice so far :) have yet to try it on some of the harder ones. I have 25m3 free in my drone bay. Do you think a sentry drone like Garde I would be worth it?

Let me know what you think of the fit
Gorki Andropov
I Dn't Knw Wht You Wnt Bt I Cn't Gve It Anymre
#2 - 2012-05-29 10:06:08 UTC
My Raven was equipped with the following:

HIGH
06 x Cruise Missile Launcher I
01 x SMALL TRACTOR BEAM 1
01 x SALVAGER I

MEDIUM
04 x LARGE SHIELD EXTENDERS
01 x 'HYPHNOS' ECM
01 x MEDIUM SHIELD BOOSTER

LOW
01 x EMERGENCY DAMAGE CONTROL
01 x ARMOR KINETIC HARDENER I
01 x ARMOR THREMIC HARDENER I
02 x WARP CORE STABILIZER I

DRONES
02 x WARRIOR I DRONES
03 x HAMMERHEAD I DRONES

UPGRADES
01 x ROCKET FUEL CACHE PARTINTION I
01 x BAY LOADING ACCELERATOR I
01 x HYDRAULIC BAY THRUSTER I







...but to be fair, that's an interesting setup. +1 for your idea. How does it fare in missions? :)
Arec Bardwin
#3 - 2012-05-29 10:51:45 UTC
With two TPs I assume you use Fury cruise missiles? How about investing in two or three faction BCUs? More dps and potentially no need for the coproc. If not, faction hardeners are dirt cheap and should save you enough cpu to dump the coproc, perhaps for a suitcase (more gank proof)
Liam Mirren
#4 - 2012-05-29 11:14:50 UTC  |  Edited by: Liam Mirren
you don't need painters if you use rigor rigs and the ancil shield booster doesn't really work in pve, it has a 60 second reload and it's quite expensive to run as it uses 400s every few seconds.

Use something like this:


[Raven Navy Issue, LVL 4 - Guristas]
Co-Processor II
Caldari Navy Ballistic Control System
Caldari Navy Ballistic Control System
Ballistic Control System II
Ballistic Control System II

100MN Afterburner II
Caldari Navy X-Large Shield Booster
Thermic Dissipation Field II
Kinetic Deflection Field II
Kinetic Deflection Field II
Heavy Capacitor Booster II, Cap Booster 800

Cruise Missile Launcher II, Scourge Cruise Missile
Cruise Missile Launcher II, Scourge Cruise Missile
Cruise Missile Launcher II, Scourge Cruise Missile
Cruise Missile Launcher II, Scourge Cruise Missile
Cruise Missile Launcher II, Scourge Cruise Missile
Cruise Missile Launcher II, Scourge Cruise Missile
Cruise Missile Launcher II, Scourge Cruise Missile
Drone Link Augmentor II

Large Warhead Rigor Catalyst I
Large Warhead Rigor Catalyst I
Large Warhead Rigor Catalyst I


Hobgoblin II x5
Warden II x3

Excellence is not a skill, it's an attitude.

Dato Koppla
Spaghetti Militia
#5 - 2012-05-29 11:52:07 UTC
Drone Link Augmentor is unnecessary, should be dropped so you can drop Co-Pro for utility low (Signal Amp/ECCM)
loki energon
Anasazi Wanderratter's Social Club
#6 - 2012-05-29 13:42:03 UTC
the drone link is not useful for this type of ship. save the drones for frigs that get too close...add a signal amp where the co-pro is and youve got lock and fire capability out to 100km. i keep a flight of med drones on board, because they are great close up, and give better damage. great ship you can sit back and clobber most npcs before they are even in range to hit you.

kill em all.

Otrebla Utrigas
Iberians
#7 - 2012-05-29 13:56:56 UTC
Look! It is my SNI fit, but with less tank and 200 mill ISK more expensive!
Kasutra
No Vacancies
No Vacancies.
#8 - 2012-05-29 15:03:04 UTC
Liam Mirren wrote:
the ancil shield booster doesn't really work in pve

But
Subdivide wrote:
Working quite nice so far :)

I am now confused.
Liam Mirren
#9 - 2012-05-29 17:22:23 UTC
Kasutra wrote:
Liam Mirren wrote:
the ancil shield booster doesn't really work in pve

But
Subdivide wrote:
Working quite nice so far :)

I am now confused.


Reload is 60 seconds which sucks like a bastard and you use up a 400 cap booster (or 800 in the Ops case which is hilariously dumb) worth 4000-5000 isk every few seconds. Just because some guy says it works doesn't mean it's good or logical to use.

Excellence is not a skill, it's an attitude.

Gorki Andropov
I Dn't Knw Wht You Wnt Bt I Cn't Gve It Anymre
#10 - 2012-05-29 17:56:10 UTC
Doesn't mean that it's not, though.
Velarra
#11 - 2012-05-29 18:00:54 UTC
If you want to run Eve PVE, there really are better ships & much more traditional fittings than the following fit. On the other hand i've flown it over the course of a few L4s and general Eve PVE. Personally, i had an inc. sniper kicking around no longer being used and figured i'd try something new:

Nosferatu cover, for the most part (yet not entirely) the 60 second reload time. 150's can fit quite amply in the cargo with several thousand cruise. You could probably change up the hardeners to rat specific.

[Raven, Raven (Sniper) - Inc PVE Active]

Damage Control II
Ballistic Control System II
Ballistic Control System II
Ballistic Control System II
Ballistic Control System II

Shield Boost Amplifier II
Large Ancillary Shield Booster
Adaptive Invulnerability Field II
Adaptive Invulnerability Field II
Thermic Dissipation Field II
EM Ward Field II

Cruise Missile Launcher II, Mjolnir Cruise Missile
Cruise Missile Launcher II, Mjolnir Cruise Missile
Cruise Missile Launcher II, Mjolnir Cruise Missile
Cruise Missile Launcher II, Mjolnir Cruise Missile
Cruise Missile Launcher II, Mjolnir Cruise Missile
Cruise Missile Launcher II, Mjolnir Cruise Missile
Ammatar Navy Heavy Nosferatu
Ammatar Navy Heavy Nosferatu

Large Processor Overclocking Unit I
Large Core Defense Capacitor Safeguard I
Large Anti-Kinetic Screen Reinforcer I


Hammerhead II x5
Hobgoblin II x5

---


Finally, It takes a good bit of focus and alertness, but surprisingly, works.
Liam Mirren
#12 - 2012-05-29 18:09:56 UTC
You really want to fit rigor rigs to a cruise boat for PVE.


Gorki Andropov wrote:
Doesn't mean that it's not, though.


Yes, lets entirely forego on the reasonings I gave.


Excellence is not a skill, it's an attitude.

stoicfaux
#13 - 2012-05-29 21:33:10 UTC
Subdivide wrote:

Working quite nice so far :) have yet to try it on some of the harder ones. I have 25m3 free in my drone bay. Do you think a sentry drone like Garde I would be worth it?

Keep the 5xLights for frigate work and use 3xSentry drones for additional firepower.


Pon Farr Memorial: once every 7 years, all the carebears in high-sec must PvP or they will be temp-banned.

loki energon
Anasazi Wanderratter's Social Club
#14 - 2012-05-30 04:28:01 UTC
Velarra wrote:
If you want to run Eve PVE, there really are better ships & much more traditional fittings than the following fit. On the other hand i've flown it over the course of a few L4s and general Eve PVE. Personally, i had an inc. sniper kicking around no longer being used and figured i'd try something new:

Nosferatu cover, for the most part (yet not entirely) the 60 second reload time. 150's can fit quite amply in the cargo with several thousand cruise. You could probably change up the hardeners to rat specific.

[Raven, Raven (Sniper) - Inc PVE Active]

Damage Control II
Ballistic Control System II
Ballistic Control System II
Ballistic Control System II
Ballistic Control System II

Shield Boost Amplifier II
Large Ancillary Shield Booster
Adaptive Invulnerability Field II
Adaptive Invulnerability Field II
Thermic Dissipation Field II
EM Ward Field II

Cruise Missile Launcher II, Mjolnir Cruise Missile
Cruise Missile Launcher II, Mjolnir Cruise Missile
Cruise Missile Launcher II, Mjolnir Cruise Missile
Cruise Missile Launcher II, Mjolnir Cruise Missile
Cruise Missile Launcher II, Mjolnir Cruise Missile
Cruise Missile Launcher II, Mjolnir Cruise Missile
Ammatar Navy Heavy Nosferatu
Ammatar Navy Heavy Nosferatu

Large Processor Overclocking Unit I
Large Core Defense Capacitor Safeguard I
Large Anti-Kinetic Screen Reinforcer I


Hammerhead II x5
Hobgoblin II x5

---


Finally, It takes a good bit of focus and alertness, but surprisingly, works.














its not surprising it works, thats an overgrown drake fit. got one just like it in amarr.
with the falling cost of deadspace mods, a fit like that can be pimped for tank for not too musk isk.
oh, and rigor,rigor,rigor its a must for cruise

kill em all.

Dato Koppla
Spaghetti Militia
#15 - 2012-05-30 06:54:55 UTC
3 Rigors minimum. Also nos doesnt work properly against npcs
Daniel Plain
Doomheim
#16 - 2012-05-30 12:27:52 UTC  |  Edited by: Daniel Plain
Liam Mirren wrote:
Kasutra wrote:
Liam Mirren wrote:
the ancil shield booster doesn't really work in pve

But
Subdivide wrote:
Working quite nice so far :)

I am now confused.


Reload is 60 seconds which sucks like a bastard and you use up a 400 cap booster (or 800 in the Ops case which is hilariously dumb) worth 4000-5000 isk every few seconds. Just because some guy says it works doesn't mean it's good or logical to use.

several things:
1. 5k isk is about as much as one flight of furies. if you cannot afford that, you're doing it wrong.
2. assuming you can top yourself off with the stupid amount of boost you get, you should be able to buffertank for 60 seconds, unless you fail horribly at triggers.
3. with100km effective range, you should be able to dpstank (or call it rangetank) most missions

I should buy an Ishtar.

Velarra
#17 - 2012-05-30 16:45:32 UTC
Dato Koppla wrote:
3 Rigors minimum. Also nos doesnt work properly against npcs


Rigors? Yes. Without question. - Fit was a partial Inc. fit and thrown together without dps/isk efficiency as a primary goal. Primary goal being, play it safe initially & determine if fit will even work at all.

Nos? They worked decently if each were targeting individual large targets, when ship's cap was empty or nearly so. This situation and their need wasn't too common as long as triggers were timed with incoming aggression levels.
Chainsaw Plankton
FaDoyToy
#18 - 2012-05-31 02:44:12 UTC
Otrebla Utrigas wrote:
Look! It is my SNI fit, but with less tank and 200 mill ISK more expensive!


moar dps! SNI is for scrubs
Liam Mirren wrote:
Reload is 60 seconds which sucks like a bastard and you use up a 400 cap booster (or 800 in the Ops case which is hilariously dumb) worth 4000-5000 isk every few seconds. Just because some guy says it works doesn't mean it's good or logical to use.

meh, cap boosters are cheap, the 60s reload is the only thing that would bother me. which tbh a lot of the time I don't think would be all that bad

stoicfaux wrote:
Subdivide wrote:

Working quite nice so far :) have yet to try it on some of the harder ones. I have 25m3 free in my drone bay. Do you think a sentry drone like Garde I would be worth it?

Keep the 5xLights for frigate work and use 3xSentry drones for additional firepower.


good drone setup that! I'm almost tempted to swap the standard signal amp for a drone damage mod on my cnr. although I haven't flown the cnr in a while

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