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Snow Burst
Caldari State
#101 - 2012-05-29 10:04:53 UTC
ModeratedToSilence wrote:
Snow Burst wrote:
ModeratedToSilence wrote:
Snow Burst wrote:
50 likes, keep em coming


Your OP only has 24 likes as at 1:07 eve time Tuesday 29th Eve.

meh looking at main thread link x-x


Meh most of those are likes that you, yourself are placing on the posts of others.
As at 09.30 Eve time Tuesday 29th May the:
OP has 41 likes
Like bumps by OP: approx 53.

think ull find i only liked a few lol

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Sup B1tches
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#102 - 2012-05-29 10:09:32 UTC
+1 to WiS.

+1 to going to the bar for a drink

+1 to getting into pub fights, knocking a red out and forcing them to wait 10 minutes to come around before they can do anything like undock.

+1 to then being able to sprint to your pod/ship for a quick getaway!

and +1 to it eventually becoming a real "alliance tournament" (right hook 5, uppercut 5, left jab 5, beer 5, fortified wine 5 and spirits @ 5".
Snow Burst
Caldari State
#103 - 2012-05-29 10:14:18 UTC
Sup B1tches wrote:
+1 to WiS.

+1 to going to the bar for a drink

+1 to getting into pub fights, knocking a red out and forcing them to wait 10 minutes to come around before they can do anything like undock.

+1 to then being able to sprint to your pod/ship for a quick getaway!

and +1 to it eventually becoming a real "alliance tournament" (right hook 5, uppercut 5, left jab 5, beer 5, fortified wine 5 and spirits @ 5".

lmao win

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Domer Pyle
Republic University
Minmatar Republic
#104 - 2012-05-29 10:23:26 UTC
+1

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Shadow Cartel
#105 - 2012-05-29 10:47:18 UTC
+1

why not

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Espen Egak
x13
Pandemic Horde
#106 - 2012-05-29 11:10:32 UTC
+1
J3ssica Alba
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
#107 - 2012-05-29 11:13:28 UTC
+1 for WiS if done properly
+100 for the new clothing options that looked awesome on SiSi .. finish them quickly!
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Bischopt
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#108 - 2012-05-29 11:14:04 UTC
no
Selinate
#109 - 2012-05-29 11:15:18 UTC
Ghazu wrote:
Selinate wrote:
Jack Miton wrote:
-1.

anyone who has WiS turned on or cares about it at all doesnt get eve as far as im concerned.


Eve is sandbox. Sandbox is do what you want. I want walk in station. Walk in station should part of sandbox.

Apparently you don't get Eve. I hope my explanation did the job.


no gank no sandbox
to elaborate, there is station spinning -> undock
there must be an equivalent of undock in wis, i will not have a bunch of dudes emoting each other or pve farming isk in wis with impunity


Oh... I totally understand and see where you're coming from completely...

Oh wait, someone just told me that you can dock in stations. And... And oh, no one can touch you while you're in the stations as it is right now....

AND OH MY, YOU CAN UNDOCK WHILE YOU'RE IN CQ NO MATTER WHERE YOU ARE?

This is just enlightening for me. I hope it is for you too.
Tomiko Kawase
Perkone
#110 - 2012-05-29 11:15:23 UTC
I could get behind WiS features, but not at the cost of any FiS features. I feel like the small amount of work they're doing is adequate for right now. Maybe sometime in the next few years a revisit to WiS would be a good idea.

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Galadriel Vasquez
Project Omega Industries
Fraternity.
#111 - 2012-05-29 11:22:51 UTC
I would love to see us all in Stations doing trading, gambling or even shooting each other. But theres a big big caveat.

Fix the Inferno Patch first - the Inventory is most important - then FW and Merc Marketplace. Then Polish up the ships so they dont look so 2002. Balance out mechanics, gameplay and smooth out the Invention process.
I would be in favour of no expansion in Winter - just rectify all the broken things that exist so far - call it EVE Resurgam!

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Natsett Amuinn
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#112 - 2012-05-29 11:29:56 UTC
I agree.

But I'm not going to like your post.
Lipbite
Express Hauler
#113 - 2012-05-29 11:30:10 UTC
Tomiko Kawase wrote:
I could get behind WiS features, but not at the cost of any FiS features.


There wasn't any substantial WiS development during last 10 months - CCP even didn't deploy on TQ all clothes available on SiSi (I suspect it's because their NeX prices planned around $50-500 apiece so it could spark new wave of outrage) and I don't see many new FiS features around besides trails and missile smoke. It's myth WiS development take away FiS developers - because there are almost zero FiS developers considering diminishing returns from their work during last 6 months (5 new barely tested modules rushed onto SiSi 2 weeks prior to Inferno)

It's clearly not WiS responsible for lack of FiS development - but DUST which took almost all development resources of CCP.

+1 for this sandbox to include WiS.
Ghazu
#114 - 2012-05-29 11:39:01 UTC
Selinate wrote:
Ghazu wrote:
Selinate wrote:
Jack Miton wrote:
-1.

anyone who has WiS turned on or cares about it at all doesnt get eve as far as im concerned.


Eve is sandbox. Sandbox is do what you want. I want walk in station. Walk in station should part of sandbox.

Apparently you don't get Eve. I hope my explanation did the job.


no gank no sandbox
to elaborate, there is station spinning -> undock
there must be an equivalent of undock in wis, i will not have a bunch of dudes emoting each other or pve farming isk in wis with impunity


Oh... I totally understand and see where you're coming from completely...

Oh wait, someone just told me that you can dock in stations. And... And oh, no one can touch you while you're in the stations as it is right now....

AND OH MY, YOU CAN UNDOCK WHILE YOU'RE IN CQ NO MATTER WHERE YOU ARE?

This is just enlightening for me. I hope it is for you too.

I don't understand your gibberish, ship spinning in hanger = cq, you are safe, can afk etc.
If there is no risk and rewards in leaving your cq, and wis is nothing but second life in space with a bunch of dudes emoting each other, it's worthless and should be scrapped.

http://www.minerbumping.com/ lol what the christ https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=2299984#post2299984
Arkon Olacar
black.listed
#115 - 2012-05-29 11:39:29 UTC
As I dont wear impractically tight pants or live in Brighton, the WiS iteration that appears to be promoted here is an abomination that should never be allowed to be developed. A bunch of guys emoting each other is pretty much the polar opposite of Eve.

What we need instead is for WiS to be Dust - so when you leave the captains quaters, that is like undocking, only rather than undocking in a space ship to go shoot peeps, you undock in battle gear to go shoot peeps, swapping instantly to keyboard and mouse FPS controls. That would be win, that would be in the spirit of the sandbox (as you could shoot anyone you choose) and would just be so awesome.

But what is not awesome in facebook poker with my Eve toon. That would be a waste of time.
Natsett Amuinn
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#116 - 2012-05-29 11:41:04 UTC
Lipbite wrote:
Tomiko Kawase wrote:
I could get behind WiS features, but not at the cost of any FiS features.


There wasn't any substantial WiS development during last 10 months - CCP even didn't deploy on TQ all clothes available on SiSi (I suspect it's because their NeX prices planned around $50-500 apiece so it could spark new wave of outrage) and I don't see many new FiS features around besides trails and missile smoke. It's myth WiS development take away FiS developers - because there are almost zero FiS developers considering diminishing returns from their work during last 6 months (5 new barely tested modules rushed onto SiSi 2 weeks prior to Inferno)

It's clearly not WiS responsible for lack of FiS development - but DUST which took almost all development resources of CCP.

+1 for this sandbox to include WiS.


I don't think people get that at some point, the only way the EVE space game is going to really expand is for people to start getting out of their ships.

EVE is about divergent gameplay, and it's reaching a point were it's diverged about as much as it can in space.

CCP needs to keep growing, WiS will bring a lot more people to the EVE universe. It's a huge win win for everyone. CCP gets more subs, and players get more people playing.

I know t's unpopullar to say, but I wish CCP would actually devote an entire expansion development to WiS. Everyone wants CCP to add new content, and then an expansion comes and people complain that it's just new effects or changes to already existing features. I don't understand what everyone expects CCP to add to the FiS part of the game.

Put some real effort into WiS with an expansion dedicated to it, and put some new ship variations in it so that we also get some new FiS stuff. It doesn't have to be entirely one or the other, which really dissapointed me because that's what it feels like happened after incarna. I want to see EVE grow and this is the most interesting way it could in my opinion.
Arkon Olacar
black.listed
#117 - 2012-05-29 11:50:08 UTC
Natsett Amuinn wrote:

I don't think people get that at some point, the only way the EVE space game is going to really expand is for people to start getting out of their ships.


And I don't think people get that this game has been around for nearly a decade as a purely (near enough) FiS game. Guess what? Subscriptions have been on the rise constantly. There are people who say that unless ganking is removed, the game will die -talking out of their arse. There are people who say that unless local is removed, the game will die - also talking out of their arse. And there are people who say that unless WiS is introduced, the game will die - yep, spouting crap from their behind. We do not need WiS, there is just a vocal minority who are insisting that 'everyone' wants to show off space pants and play poker with their toons, rather than playing the game we pay our subs for, and have been paying our subs for almost a decade.
Gerald Taric
NEO DYNAMICS
#118 - 2012-05-29 11:56:53 UTC
+1

at least i wish for being able to invite others in the captains quarter.
Rek Seven
University of Caille
Gallente Federation
#119 - 2012-05-29 12:01:16 UTC
Hroya
#120 - 2012-05-29 12:03:55 UTC
Arkon Olacar wrote:
Natsett Amuinn wrote:

I don't think people get that at some point, the only way the EVE space game is going to really expand is for people to start getting out of their ships.


And I don't think people get that this game has been around for nearly a decade as a purely (near enough) FiS game. Guess what? Subscriptions have been on the rise constantly. There are people who say that unless ganking is removed, the game will die -talking out of their arse. There are people who say that unless local is removed, the game will die - also talking out of their arse. And there are people who say that unless WiS is introduced, the game will die - yep, spouting crap from their behind. We do not need WiS, there is just a vocal minority who are insisting that 'everyone' wants to show off space pants and play poker with their toons, rather than playing the game we pay our subs for, and have been paying our subs for almost a decade.


Showing off space pants and playing poker are two expamples i agree on that wouldnt entertain me eihter. The original answer from ccp ( Oveur ) to the question if we would get WiS in eve was: "Yes, but not for a while because what is it we want you to be able to do in a station." Or something close to that, it's been a while.

Fist off WiS should allways be optional, some people like to walk around with an avatar, some dont. Just like now the optional stay in ship or enter CQ. Perfect sollution.
As for the things you could do in a station, you could go wild on idea's on that one but i agree it would totally suck ( imo ) if it was just limited to some random running around in you face emoting jackasses. A hitman profession branded into WiS where you can actually take out someone with a bounty on the noggin after infiltrating his/her CQ, or through he targets CQ blow up his/her ship and subsequently trying to escape detection would be "neat".

You go your corridor but.