EVE General Discussion

Your idea is ******, and nobody cares.

It's to give a false impression as to what EVE really is.

Highsec semi sense of safety is currently the only thing that can feed its entire player base simply by paying CCP.
PvP'ers would in fact be hurt by alienating carebears that feed CCP money, not necessarily how they effect the in game market as they never get proper training to eliminate that horribly annoying "I mined the minerals, they are free" idea.
However the bears who are only used to Highsec and constantly harrased by lower secs will often never trust anyone and will thus never produce a competitive spirit to risk anything as they feel doomed to never succeed in anything but being some "lol" betrayal in a major alliance, and their game in the sandbox is simply to avoid getting conned.
Highsec can squeak by a living, and with much lower risk they eventually can acquire much wealth over a long period of time. However this painfully slow acquisition of wealth makes them terminally risk adverse as they can only think about how long it would take to rebuild their prime ship.
Instead of high being used as a recruitment base for ever major group in nul to feed their eternal battles, they treat highsec as just another war front to suck hope and tears from yet never conquer making a sub culture that hates everything about lower secs residents as an enemy. And this feeling spreads as every highsec newb corp bringing in new players with the hope of no taxes and the hope of group success will spread this knowledge and animosity and points to every hulkageddon and every can flip as the evil of nul sec bored players.

The actions of each sec range has been godfathered in from years ago by the players and is enforced and perpetuated by current players. It's not Concord, it's not CCP. It has been the players who have made high, low, and nul.

So the one sentence for the point of High Sec made by the players is:
An area for harassment because its funny when they think its safe.

Problem is, with all of the ganker vs bear posts and cries it is bluntly obvious that people do not understand what the game is about and how to play it. How can you play the game for months and then be surprised and upset by the fact that you just lost all of your belongings because you decided to afk mine?

If you think that a "starting" area will form bad habits propose something else but we need new players and we need existing players to stay. We actually need more PvP, not less. So how do you encourage the fact that Eve is all about war and the only reason economy esists is to support war?

I think you are confusing your life with rambo's frank.

Off-subject but still, i am actually amazed at how many people are just hopelessly bitter. There was a study somewhere online that was talking about how "anonymity" online brings out the worst in people. Take you for example: are you an ******* online or in real life as well? Regardless, nobody forced you to read this thread buddy, no need to rage especially when you post one-liners like in other threads

And how is "Interesting, but define cost please." trolling and "give reasons" is not? And if my conduct was offensive - unfortunately i can not please everyone and nor do i intend to. Great day to you as well.

Folk our age usually have more sense than to brag like an insecure teen-ager.

@Eva Rourge What is the point of High Sec?

People looked about and pondered - then a brave high-sec miner stood, clinched his fist and proclaimed.

High sec player: The open space, afk hulks, mining drones at port and starboard, and all the asteroids you can nom!

CCP Rep: Wrong! Ginseng what is the purpose of high-sec space?

Ginseng Jita: To buy cheap ganking boats, to fly them into asteroid fields, blow up badly tanked and afk miners, then hear the lamentations of their pilots.

CCP Rep: That is good! That is good.

Nothing wrong with Hi-Sec, IMO. You can get blown up, but it's unlikely that you will. While I can't measure it, I'm pretty sure there are far fewer PvP kills in Hi-Sec than low when controlled for population densities (and eliminating mutual dueling).

The way EVE is structured with respect to skills/ships, you really do need an area of realtive safety for newer players to at least train skils without fear of being constantly podded. Otherwise, you'll have older/more skilled players hang out at stations and blast the **** out of everything that undocks. <- Not a great gaming experience for the newbie.

As far as Hulks and whatnot, if you're capable of flying and buying a Hulk, you really should know the game well enough to know you can/will get ganked.