EVE General Discussion

Glad you asked. The point is: with all the noise around ganking and mining and bears and goons and whatnot - does anyone actually understand what this particular environment is supposed to represent and what one should actually expect of it?
I'll go further: could it be that instead of "fixing" high sec so that "everyone" feels comfortable the only thing that is needed is a clear warning label? Do new/casual/whatever players actually understand what they are stepping into when they undock for the very first time?

lol! ******** thread high sec is for the fw and such god i cant believe this was asked lol

Hi. I just had my 57th birthday. Thanks. I've been playing "Chew The Opposition Into Little Pieces" for more than forty years. I'm a chess master - basketball player for 17 years, football for 12, baseball for 20. I can roast you in bridge, spades, gin rummy, MONOPOLY, double-board Risk. In fact, I've spent my entire life in unbridled competition with one thought in mind, "Winning isn't everything. It's the only thing.

You might imagine with so much win/loss, reams of scores, several major INJURIES, my adrenalin pumping, stick it to the enemy days of glory are about over. I've had my run. However, playing isn't. Playing is good for the mind. Einstein said intelligent people need to play. When I found EVE Online I found something where I can make a contribution and let the other folks have their time with going for each other's throats.

It just so happens, I can do my bit to contribute in high sec. I don't pick high sec cause it's safe. I pick it cause it's practical. I get what I'm doing done there, so there's where I do it. What I don't get is, why are there people who want things all their own way to such an extreme that they'd contort this sandbox into their own personal, custom made, suit only me environment and tell everybody else to just go get lost?

I shall not humble myself to such selfish people. The PvP end of this game has nothing in it to match the RL PvP I've done in four decades (and I've got the scars to prove it), so making some claim the world revolves around this handful of folks (to me) is no more than average doo doo ka ka.

So I ask, "What is the point of your question, and who are "you" to ask?"

Correct. All areas of EVE support non-consensual combat PvP, with high sec having the most complex and restrictive rules of engagement, and 0.0 having no rules at all.

As Tippia correctly states, attemtping non-consensual PvP in hi-sec comes at a cost; you can either pay CONCORD to look the other way while you make war on another corp; you can allow or entice another player to steal your property from a jet-can; you can have killrights from previously losing a ship; or you can accept that CONCORD will destroy your ship.

With respect to that final cost, if the target makes himself a sufficiently vulnerable, valuable target, then it becomes economic to to gank him for a profit. Fortunately, it is generally possible to improve the survivability of your ship (or use a ship with better options) to make ganking uneconomic. For instance, a Hulk can be tanked to the point where it requires 2 battlecruisers to kill it, with a net cost to the attackers of well in excess of 100 million ISK, more than they can reasonably hope to recover.

-1 stupid idea wud ruin eve

Why should we expect anything? It's a sandbox, so what happens happens.


I agree with this. But doesn't the warning already exist? The promos market Eve as a harsh universe. The tutorials are also pretty clear on the point, from what I recall. Part of the trouble is that people don't believe what they are being told no matter how often you tell them.

Probably our comprehension has been numbed by years of video game advertisement where a game like WoW is marketed as a world at war when actually it's a pretty organized and civil place. So among the expectations that people bring to Eve is that all this stuff about the "harsh universe" is just a bunch of hype that doesn't need to be taken seriously. A lot of Eve hype doesn't need to be taken seriously - but at least that one point is somewhat accurate.

no one cares... he asked why shud you be the sole voice of the people

Why, that is what CCP wants, ruthless PVP. What would harbor that more than making every system null sec.

0t would prevent mining, carebears and whining.

Everything people ***** about.

Wow a RL bitter vet! j/k

Happy Bday,sir! Hope you had a good one!

Question is wrong, why we need 0.0 is proper question.