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What is the point of High Sec?
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Eva Rourge
#21 - 2012-05-28 14:09:34 UTC
Tippia wrote:
Eva Rourge wrote:
No reason for aggression. Simply pointing to the fact that cost is relative and may approach zero and thus become irrelevant.
None of which makes the slightest bit of difference.


Surely does. Try removing the word "cost" from your statement and see how much sense it makes:

Tippia wrote:
To provide an area where aggression comes at a cost, so you can gamble on people's miserliness and hope it keeps you from getting blown up.

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Gealbhan
School of Applied Knowledge
Caldari State
#22 - 2012-05-28 14:09:58 UTC
The point of high sec is ...uh...um... it just is, ok!? Arrow
Darth Tickles
Doomheim
#23 - 2012-05-28 14:12:42 UTC
Pretty sure I see where this is going.

Hulk pilots aren't "new" players.

End of thread. Next.
Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
#24 - 2012-05-28 14:12:53 UTC  |  Edited by: Tippia
Eva Rourge wrote:
Surely does.
Nope. Highsec remains a place where aggression comes at a cost and where you gamble on people's miserliness to keep you safe.

Whether it's relative or approaching zero makes no difference.

edit: wtf, writing is hard. Ugh
Eva Rourge
#25 - 2012-05-28 14:15:16 UTC
Darth Tickles wrote:
Pretty sure I see where this is going.

Hulk pilots aren't "new" players.

End of thread. Next.


On the contrary, i personally have no bias. I dont mine and i could care less. I am simply curious as to why this aspect of the game exists and does it succeed or fail as fulfilling its function.

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Warpshade
Warped Industries
#26 - 2012-05-28 14:16:05 UTC  |  Edited by: Warpshade
Imho high sec adds a different layer of PvP, whether it be wardeccing, suicide ganking or criminal flagging.
Eva Rourge
#27 - 2012-05-28 14:17:29 UTC
Tippia wrote:
Eva Rourge wrote:
Surely does.
Nope. Highsec remains a place where aggression comes at a cost and where you gamble on people's miserliness to keep you safe.

Whether it's relative or approaching zero makes no difference.

edit: wtf, writing is hard. Ugh


Right and repeating yourself does. Actually if cost becomes irrelevant then your statement simply means that highsec is a place where you gamble on people's miserliness at the risk of aggression.

I do understand your refusal to discuss this further and you are entitled to your own opinion.

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Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
#28 - 2012-05-28 14:17:38 UTC  |  Edited by: Tippia
Eva Rourge wrote:
i personally have no bias.
Unlikely. You wouldn't use the phrase “getting warmer“ unless you have already made up your mind about what the “correct” answer is.

Quote:
Actually if cost becomes irrelevant then your statement simply means that highsec is a place where you gamble on people's miserliness at the risk of aggression.
Good thing, then, that nothing of the sort happens.

That means highsec remains a place where aggression comes at a cost and that you can keep gamble on people's miserliness and hope it's enough to keep you safe.

Quote:
I do understand your refusal to discuss this further
Discuss what? You asked a question. I gave you the answer. The answer still holds true.
Eva Rourge
#29 - 2012-05-28 14:20:04 UTC
Warpshade wrote:
Imho high sec adds a different layer of PvP, whether it be wardeccing, suicide ganking or criminal flagging.


Interesting point. Thus high sec is really not safe at all, is it? In fact it really does not differ much from low sec except for the circumstances surrounding your death.

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Darth Tickles
Doomheim
#30 - 2012-05-28 14:20:36 UTC
Tippia wrote:
Unlikely. You wouldn't use the phrase “getting warmer“ unless you have already made up your mind about what the “correct” answer is


Agreed.
Alavaria Fera
GoonWaffe
#31 - 2012-05-28 14:20:46 UTC
Tippia wrote:
Eva Rourge wrote:
i personally have no bias.
Unlikely. You wouldn't use the phrase “getting warmer“ unless you have already made up your mind about what the “correct” answer is.

Quote:
Actually if cost becomes irrelevant then your statement simply means that highsec is a place where you gamble on people's miserliness at the risk of aggression.
Good thing, then, that nothing of the sort happens.

The means highsec remains a place where aggression comes at a cost and that you can keep gamble on people's miserliness and hope it's enough to keep you safe.

Totally believing the unbiased person who just wants a safer highsec.

Yep, oh and did you hear about -

Triggered by: Wars of Sovless Agression, Bending the Knee, Twisting the Knife, Eating Sov Wheaties, Bombless Bombers, Fizzlesov, Interceptor Fleets, Running Away, GhostTime Vuln, Renters, Bombs, Bubbles ?
Merovee
Gorthaur Legion
Imperium Mordor
#32 - 2012-05-28 14:21:49 UTC
Hi-sec is formal pvp/pve (industrial, Market, trade and thuggery) and a great place to be even with the risks.

Empire, the next new world order.
Eva Rourge
#33 - 2012-05-28 14:22:06 UTC  |  Edited by: Eva Rourge
Tippia wrote:
Eva Rourge wrote:
i personally have no bias.
Unlikely. You wouldn't use the phrase “getting warmer“ unless you have already made up your mind about what the “correct” answer is.

Quote:
Actually if cost becomes irrelevant then your statement simply means that highsec is a place where you gamble on people's miserliness at the risk of aggression.
Good thing, then, that nothing of the sort happens.

That means highsec remains a place where aggression comes at a cost and that you can keep gamble on people's miserliness and hope it's enough to keep you safe.


Nope, i have not made up my mind but i do have a guess. By warmer i simply mean we are getting constructive replies. Honestly, i've never mined in my life and i don't inted to. I do not care about bears as i do not care about gankers, i associate myself with neither. In fact i wouldn't blink if high sec was gone tomorrow.

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Sentient Blade
Crisis Atmosphere
Coalition of the Unfortunate
#34 - 2012-05-28 14:23:02 UTC
Highsec is a barrier that ensures no one group can ever completely control EvE to the detriment of everyone else.
Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
#35 - 2012-05-28 14:23:37 UTC
Eva Rourge wrote:
Nope, i have not made up my mind but i do have a guess.
Then nothing is “getting warmer”.

Quote:
By warmer i simply mean we are getting constructive replies.
Equally unlikely.
Alavaria Fera
GoonWaffe
#36 - 2012-05-28 14:25:30 UTC
Tippia wrote:
Eva Rourge wrote:
Nope, i have not made up my mind but i do have a guess.
Then nothing is “getting warmer”.

Quote:
By warmer i simply mean we are getting constructive replies.
Equally unlikely.

Their, uh, intent is showing.

Triggered by: Wars of Sovless Agression, Bending the Knee, Twisting the Knife, Eating Sov Wheaties, Bombless Bombers, Fizzlesov, Interceptor Fleets, Running Away, GhostTime Vuln, Renters, Bombs, Bubbles ?
Eva Rourge
#37 - 2012-05-28 14:26:30 UTC
Tippia wrote:
Eva Rourge wrote:
Nope, i have not made up my mind but i do have a guess.
Then nothing is “getting warmer”.

Quote:
By warmer i simply mean we are getting constructive replies.
Equally unlikely.


It's ok, really, no need to explain further. You don't like the fact that i poked a hole through your statement and since you can not argue it any further you have to question the reasoning behind my question. Perfectly understood. Now unless you have any proof that i side with either bears or gankers lets just move along. Thanks.

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Eva Rourge
#38 - 2012-05-28 14:27:51 UTC
Alavaria Fera wrote:
Tippia wrote:
Eva Rourge wrote:
Nope, i have not made up my mind but i do have a guess.
Then nothing is “getting warmer”.

Quote:
By warmer i simply mean we are getting constructive replies.
Equally unlikely.

Their, uh, intent is showing.


Oh hey there. Glad you joined the discussion. Perhaps you could give me an idea of what you consider high sec to be.

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Makkz
Lamorei Prosapia Vexillum
#39 - 2012-05-28 14:29:17 UTC
High sec is the place where npc's have a form of control, it is "relatively" safe, it is where warfare is done legally by paying of the cops, but more importantly, its where capital ships controlled by players cant go.
Jake Warbird
Republic Military School
Minmatar Republic
#40 - 2012-05-28 14:29:23 UTC
You have enough constructive answers. What is the point of this thread?

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