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Mining Profession Removal
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Bahr Cudas
Beta Ray Bill
#101 - 2012-05-28 21:48:57 UTC
YuuKnow wrote:
Mining is a nice, laid back, social endeavor, thats good for laid back cooperative gameplay. Not everyone wants to login to gankermode everyday.

What's broken about mining is the risk-reward ratio now. It used to be more inline with basic low risk, low reward, but with current security level game mechanics, Concord mechanics and griefer alts, its turned into a high-risk low-reward situtation that doesn't fit well with the rest of the risk/reward game-mechanics.

In a lot of ways CCPs core game design as they originally intended are breaking down as the player base grows and cracks in their original game design are exposed.

yk


I've been a miner since day 1. I don't think EVE is broken or flawed. More than any MMO I've ever played, it's what you make of it. If you want nice & laid back, pick an out of the way Empire pond and fish to your heart's content. If you want action, go to 0.0.

Hulkageddon is hliarious. I support it 100%. Then again I don't mine in a Hulk. And, when I'm looking for alittle more excitement, I'll mine in 0.2 and play Rabbit with the gankers. Win some, and lose some, but at the end of the day, I've logged on, and played a very well constructed MMO.

Just my personal opinions, gang...
Snow Burst
Caldari State
#102 - 2012-05-28 21:50:46 UTC
also 1 word... chribba

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Tora reavs
Center for Advanced Studies
Gallente Federation
#103 - 2012-05-29 00:51:40 UTC
I think what is really needed is an "industrial" method of getting even with the gankers.
For example, a market black list.
Anyone ganking a miner would be placed on the list and would no longer be able to buy minerals.
Anyone found making ships and selling them to the gankers would be placed on the same list.
After a while the gankers would no longer be able to buy a ship to gank with.

That would be result directly related to their actions and not just some ccp nurf to ganking.
True Market PVP.
Alavaria Fera
GoonWaffe
#104 - 2012-05-29 00:56:12 UTC
Tora reavs wrote:
I think what is really needed is an "industrial" method of getting even with the gankers.
For example, a market black list.
Anyone ganking a miner would be placed on the list and would no longer be able to buy minerals.
Anyone found making ships and selling them to the gankers would be placed on the same list.
After a while the gankers would no longer be able to buy a ship to gank with.

That would be result directly related to their actions and not just some ccp nurf to ganking.
True Market PVP.

So when you put a sell order and a ganker buys it from you, the system beats you up.

Sounds like an "industrial" way of ganking ! Don't like that competitor, make a gank alt and guy a ship from him. *ding*

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Ginseng Jita
PAN-EVE TRADING COMPANY
#105 - 2012-05-29 01:00:47 UTC
Tora reavs wrote:
I think what is really needed is an "industrial" method of getting even with the gankers.
For example, a market black list.
Anyone ganking a miner would be placed on the list and would no longer be able to buy minerals.
Anyone found making ships and selling them to the gankers would be placed on the same list.
After a while the gankers would no longer be able to buy a ship to gank with.

That would be result directly related to their actions and not just some ccp nurf to ganking.
True Market PVP.


LOL - yeah that'll work. :)
Bahr Cudas
Beta Ray Bill
#106 - 2012-05-29 02:27:51 UTC
Tora reavs wrote:
I think what is really needed is an "industrial" method of getting even with the gankers.
For example, a market black list.
Anyone ganking a miner would be placed on the list and would no longer be able to buy minerals.
Anyone found making ships and selling them to the gankers would be placed on the same list.
After a while the gankers would no longer be able to buy a ship to gank with.

That would be result directly related to their actions and not just some ccp nurf to ganking.
True Market PVP.

That's interesting idea, though personally I wouldn't change things. They take a security hit, and the person who was attacked can adapt their technique to be better prepared.
Ramon Sohei
The Florez Law Firm
#107 - 2012-05-29 03:10:39 UTC
@OP, I'm not sure if you are trolling...

If you take mining out, why would alliances 'own' space in the first place. You need to have resources for corps/alliances to compete. This causes conflicts which help fuel wars. What you are asking is like playing Warcraft/Starcraft without the mining component.

Quote:
Do we really need this profession?


Think of it this way. You have sheep and you have wolves. Someone has to play sheep.
EVE Roy Mustang
Doomheim
#108 - 2012-05-29 03:19:50 UTC
Alavaria Fera wrote:
Tora reavs wrote:
I think what is really needed is an "industrial" method of getting even with the gankers.
For example, a market black list.
Anyone ganking a miner would be placed on the list and would no longer be able to buy minerals.
Anyone found making ships and selling them to the gankers would be placed on the same list.
After a while the gankers would no longer be able to buy a ship to gank with.

That would be result directly related to their actions and not just some ccp nurf to ganking.
True Market PVP.

So when you put a sell order and a ganker buys it from you, the system beats you up.

Sounds like an "industrial" way of ganking ! Don't like that competitor, make a gank alt and guy a ship from him. *ding*


or make a ganking alt corp and kill any destroyer that shows up in your belt lol
bongsmoke
Visine Red
420 Chronicles of EvE
#109 - 2012-05-29 13:34:43 UTC
Those that actually made a contribution to this thread, thanks.

The threads title was meant to grab peoples attention and bring ideas to helping the profession.

Too many trolls and ignorant people that cannot read past the headline.

Ultimately, its ccp decision if anything changes. Doubt anything will.

Best wishes to the indy industry.

I shall continue doing what i do, and you all do what you do.
theteck
#110 - 2012-05-29 19:32:18 UTC
my problem its we pass to mutch time mining and not enough action ...


and when i want to finally do somes pow pow ... using a jump clone have a cooldown of 24 hours that its to long ...

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