EVE General Discussion

Untrue, but hey keep saying that.

http://eve-offline.net/?server=tranquility

Since the middle of 2009, the amount of active players online has significantly decreased.




I agree with the OP. He posted a very excellent and concise thread.

Make the gun substantially more dangerous and/or less fun for the casuals and a funny thing happens. You start losing them.

You are actually proving my point, not debasing it.



Item 1 of the approach I suggested takes a similar approach. If you can gank with a strength that in the first X bursts, you take down a hulk before concord takes you out, then by all means, have at it. Its just higher risk for your reward.

It took probably 4 or 5 strikes to take down my hulk. And one against my pod, and in neither case was I fast enough with my click sequence to warp out. As I have noted in this thread, I certainly learned a number of lessons I had forgotten since being in a corp that was war decc'd. But as I also noted, its because I went a different way with my gameplay and trusted to the system to promote (and inhibit) certain behaviors as it was intended to do.

My main points with all of my post boil down to two things:
1) CCP needs to decide at what point a high sec gank becomes grief and/or what impact they are willing to accept to the casual and/or non-pvp player base.

2) The advent of ganking competitions, large scale information sharing, large-scale cartel-like alliances building massive fleets, etc, has changed the level of risk and the ability of what players can do pushing into high-sec. High-sec needs to be re-tuned in some way. Either by balancing the ability of the mining ships to survive longer, adding security to some element of the system, or introducing a deterrent for players who engage in this activity in a systematic way that falls over to griefing - which is predicated on the CCP decision from point 1.

Look at what I just cooked up

[Skiff, New Setup 1]
Damage Control II
Co-Processor II

Medium F-S9 Regolith Shield Induction
Invulnerability Field II
Invulnerability Field II
Invulnerability Field II

Modulated Strip Miner II, Veldspar Mining Crystal I

Medium Core Defence Field Extender I
Medium Core Defence Field Extender I

17.9k EHP and no implants in a damn skiff. It even gets +2 warp warp strength to boot.

Let's hope so.


You mean by blowing up spaceships in a game where people blow up spaceships? Is it sociopathic to play EVE as intended? I think not.


Good. This is called "non-consensual PvP."


They lost subscriptions with Incarna, the expansion designed to gear the game toward a more mainstream audience. CCP gains subscriptions when they gear the game toward proper EVE players--the "sociopaths" you mentioned earlier.

You can have your mindless highsec mining...I and the rest of the EVE community will take Burn Jita and Hulkageddon any day.

hard to sympathize with the op's big ticket implants and empty mid slots.

holy ****, this is the most intelligent tears I've seen in these forums. You did very well disguising them behind intelligent, thoughtful and patient words but they are still tears at the end of the day.

BTW, you can't blame CCP for your loss. You chose to go out and mine. You chose not to take precautions. So now you have to live up to your choices

There's going to be some dead catalysts hehe, enjoy.

lol, so has the amount of bookmarks in my browser, it doesn't mean they're all active or even used.

That graph shows the facts, not hearsay and misinformation gained from a company's PR department.

Repeat : I will not fly a ship that represents such a large portion of my wealth, that losing it means quitting the game.
I will not fly a ship that represents such a large portion of my wealth, that losing it means quitting the game.
I will not fly a ship that represents such a large portion of my wealth, that losing it means quitting the game.

It's an easy principal to grasp, and it's a concept that is as old as EvE itself. It is THE basic rule by which anyone with the slightest bit of foresight should play the game. If you don't live by this easy rule then regardless of how you came to lose your vessel, you must admit you were kinda pushing the limits weren't you? I'm not saying HTFU or saying PVP ONLY WAY TO GO!!!!... I'm just suggesting it as an act of common sense, i can't understand why people keep building themselves up for these MASSIVE losses

Hmph, that's probably good enough, any more expensive than a destroyer is not realyl worth wasting on the retriever,.