EVE General Discussion

Hello OP,

I am new to EVE, been playing for about 3 months, and I love the fact that nowhere is safe. I wouldn't change anything. 100% security is the reason why I've left so many other games, they are 100% boring.

Just like in any other game, if you want to be good at something (such as surviving a gank), you need to do a little research. It's not that hard.

Granted, if a group is targeting you (which I'm sure they will now), it's near impossible to fit enough tank, but a Damage Control and a couple of shield hardeners (which you can overload if attacked) will help you survive the average solo/duo gank attempt.

Gameplay isnt fine, Hulks have to give up all defensive ability to gain a little more yield.

Haulers have to give up defencive ability to run a max cargo hold. Comabt ships have to give up defences to go max offence and so on. What makes you think hulks shouldn't follow the same rules as everyone else?

No, they don't.

Space is just as safe now as it was 6 years ago for hulks.

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A hulk can easily get around 20k ehp, with low skills. That's plenty to survive the average gank in highsec.

Not sure what the problem here is.

We tested this on sisi at the start of the year before the two ice interdictions. 3 catalysts will not kill a supertank hulk, 3 tornados can pull it off but a 4th is needed to garentee the kill. You also do not get 15 seconds in a lot of high sec.

You know it would be more effective finding ways to defend yourself than convincing CCP that hulkageddon is a form of griefing. After all, CCP makes it clear in all their comments about such matters that the responsibility falls on the player to defend themselves from other players, and such a thing is not CCP's job. CCP considers griefing to be anything mean or hurtful targeted against a specific character, which in this case does not apply since hulkageddon affects all miners in highsec and lowsec. Instead of posting here people can quite easily defend themselves by having logistic ships rep their hulks while they mine (seriously, this all but stops just about any ganker and I'm amazed it isn't used more often) or maybe even shield repair drones for those with less skills. Hulks don't need a buff, players just need to bring support fleets to protect their miners, just like how PvP fleets need to bring along support in order to be effective.

This Hulkageddon, which is three weeks linger than the usual event should be a wake-up call for miners ever that they need to change their fleet comps and really start thinking about game mechanics in order to keep their precious and expensive ships alive. Mining is something that is incredibly risky when done alone or with few people as the losses fall just on one person. What I hope to see emerge from this Hulkageddon are more organized and smarter miners. People are always whining about Goonswarm and their giant coalition which can essentially step on anyone else with little consequence, particularly people in highsec because there is so little organization and unity between those who solely reside there. The game would be a lot more interesting if a highsec coalition existed to challenge nullsec blocs like TEST, Goons, and others.

Do I think any of this actually has a chance of happening? No. The majority of people who actually live in highsec would have to get along and interact with each other to pull this off and considering most don't even read this forum or any news (take the op as an example of one such infrequent poster prior to losing his untanked hulk).

The point is, don't ask for game changes learn to defend yourself. That doesn't mean you have to take up PvP, it just means learning how to support one another in dangerous times.

Because miners are the only people getting attacked and killed in space.