EVE New Citizens Q&A

(sigh)

Alright. EVE is about the purest sandbox game there is, and the Devs are only gunning to make it more so. Sandbox is not structure, sandbox is a big mess of sand inside a box. You want to make sandcastles, knock down other sandcastles, or pour sand on someone's head? Joining a corp gives a little structure, but it is player driven structure, not game mechanics.

Joining a corp/guild/whatever is a pain in the ass in any game, and even with filtering etc., there is just no getting around that. The bigger the game, the more corps/guilds to sift through, so it can take days or weeks to get a good one. But Joining a good corp is worth it. A player corp will care about you, where the npc corp really is a bunch of dudes doing their own thing. Some NPC corps give good advice, but don't expect them to warp to you and help if your attacked. A player corp will have members warp to assist. Mainly, NPC corps are either empire alts of nullsuc block players, or carebears that are scared of losing their ships, and quiver at the word war. So as far as PVP goes, NPC corps are TERRIBLE.

The new player experience really is in the player corps. If you are afraid of war, well, war doesn't matter in null sec. If you want to join a high sec corp, just join a corp that FIGHTS wars, and not one that runs and hides when they get deced and you'll be fine. Wars aren't something to fear. A good player corp will stand by you not try to run faster for cover than you.

There is a help channel in game, which I have permanently on, more specialized help channels, market, exploration, mission running, etc, for every aspect of the game. There are recruitment channels, recruitment forums, where you could also post a "looking for corp, and I want these things in the corp" post.

Anyone that want the meaningful war soverenity etc, and to see major fleet battles sometimes with over 1000 people going at it, you want to join a null sec corp. Look for newbie friendly null sec corp. They will train you, and often all they want is you to be able to fit a point.

Just remember that you are not marrying the corp. You can leave at any time.

They are only on your kill list if you actually kill them. Hitting them doesn't count. Otherwise I'd have a LOT more killmails.

oh wait, they aren't killmails anymore. Kill reports.

What very likely happened is you accidently shot a structure, most structures are killable but some call concord. I did that once years ago blithly ignoring the warning pop-up. Using a smart-bomb in HS is bad mkay? ECM burst, ya bad. Another option is that a ninja salvager showed up and targeted you first, so your ship autotargeted them, and when you fired your guns or whatever, you shot the ninja. When this happens, you will have one thing selected in your overview, but your target window will be different. Very sneaky, and the reason why most corps have everyone turn off auto-target.

I personally agree, best to turn it off early, but later when you get good habits, I think it should be turned back on. But lots of gangs will start shooting each other because another gang member targets them, so when they try to shoot the primary, they shoot their friend instead.

*sigh*

6th or 7th time older player is going to say this too you.

CONCORD will only shoot you if you shoot another PLAYER or if you by accident shoot the station.

Nothing will show up in logs unless::

- You actually killed the player, which I doubt at mission baiting is usually done in tanky ships
- He shot back, which means he is on you kill, he didn't

The only list YOU are on is on his kill list if he didn't shoot back.

Ooh, and I can name my ship "Serpentis" and it will show up as serpentis on most overviews. Guess what, Overview isn't fool proof.

Yeah, its stupid they have to have a low sec rating to even place a bounty on someone. it's even stupider when they get their friend to kill them and collect the bounty.

Maybe there needs to be NPC bounty hunters.

http://eve-kill.net/?a=kill_detail&kll_id=13485881

Killmail only reports 1 lossed ship, a Navitas, and took place in 6-CZ49 Null Space, That's Syndicate space. It's one of the very few NPC controlled territories. I wouldn't even go down there. Also Navitas is not a Combat Frigate, it is a hi-sec Mining Frigate. You have guns on it...

Some people will do missions in low-sec, not for the ISK reward, but to enjoy the risk that is involved.

I'm sorry your finding it difficult to get started, but once your financially stable and learn what your doing makes losses that can occur not hurt so much. It can be rewarding if you know what your doing and what to expect.

If you need assistance please message me in-game and I'll see what I can do to help you.

Multiple times

Yeah the Navitas loss was my last one and very recent. I was bored so I decided to take a cheap Navitas down to check it out. On my way back I ran into one of those warp bubbles between jump gates. Funny enough someone had just mentioned those and I finally got to see one up close, though it did cost me. It was a cheap ship though. I made 30 of them so I could take them down to low sec and if I died it wouldn't matter so much because I had extra. I found those warp bubbles work very effectively and two drakes obviously had no problem taking out my little frig. I should have tried warping to an asteroid belt first or warping to within a given range of the gate rather than warping straight to it and ending up in the bubble. But I had never seen the warp bubbles and didn't know how they were employed in game. I also got my pod killed, but on the bright side it saved me 10 jumps back to the station.

I've been doing some reading on Eve University among other things mentioned, but there is a ton of information to download and so little time. I work for a living and try to play when I can so reading tons of wiki pages takes away from game time. I prefer in game experience whenever possible. I'm looking at the faction war for sure, but the online wiki didn't answer everything so I'm still curious about that.

I would suggest just joining the Eve University corp and learning-as-you-go instead of trying to RTFM your way to victory, then.

If you're interested in Faction War, though, there is a Reddit-based FW corporation named Fweddit that is (relatively) new player friendly.

http://www.reddit.com/r/fweddit

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