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Venjeance Moennan
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
#1 - 2012-05-27 10:19:42 UTC
So I'm relatively new to the game, did the trial back in October and liked it but realized I had nowhere near the time to put into the game, but with summer ahead I decided to go for it. Anyway, I bought a couple of PLEX and had them in my ship's cargo hold. There was a contract to buy some and it said it was only 4 jumps away so I set it as my destination and put it on auto-pilot so I could make a sandwich. Unfortunately when I came back I was in my pod, still on the way to the station; I have no idea where or how my ship got destroyed so I can't just go back and pick up the items; the ship and its items are no big deal, what I'm really worried about are the two PLEX I just bought. Are they gone forever? Did I just lose ~$40 for nothing?
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Doomheim
#2 - 2012-05-27 10:33:05 UTC
Yes, they're gone, you died because you were flying around with them, other people WILL kill you for the chance to get those PLEX for themselves.

What you should have done is redeem the plex at the station you wanted to sell them at AND NEVER autopilot.
Theres just about 0 chance youl get those PLEXs back, sorry.
Victor Markov
Imperial Shipment
Amarr Empire
#3 - 2012-05-27 10:38:30 UTC
I assume you had made the plex into a item and had it in your cargo hold? If so then this very well might have been why you were attacked and robbed.
Venjeance Moennan
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
#4 - 2012-05-27 10:38:54 UTC
Well damn. I knew this game could be cutthroat, just didn't understand by how much. Still learning the ropes, and apparently doing it the hard way; thanks for the response though.
Forum Clone 77777
Doomheim
#5 - 2012-05-27 10:53:15 UTC
You were flying around in an easily destroyable ship with a possbible 2 months free gametime or 1 bil isk worth of assets.
If you think about it, its quite obvious that someone would try, and succeed, at killing you.
Venjeance Moennan
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
#6 - 2012-05-27 11:04:15 UTC
Yes I'm a noob and I didn't understand how everything worked in the game, I didn't realize others could so quickly and easily find out what someone else is carrying or would be so interested in doing it. I paid the price and I learned from it. Letting me know what happened and why is appreciated, coming back and rubbing my face in it while acting I should know the game in and out from a couple weeks of playing 6 months ago isn't.
Xi 'xar
Rift Watch
Watchpoint
#7 - 2012-05-27 11:07:50 UTC
People will always give you a hard time for posting anything on the forums in which you confess to a mistake... At least you get to learn from your mistakes.

http://herdingwolves.wordpress.com/
gfldex
#8 - 2012-05-27 11:33:01 UTC  |  Edited by: gfldex
Venjeance Moennan wrote:
I have no idea where or how my ship got destroyed


There you go.

EDIT: Quite frankly, your fitting is reason enough to remove that abomination from space.

If you take all the sand out of the box, only the cat poo will remain.
gfldex
#9 - 2012-05-27 11:36:41 UTC
Venjeance Moennan wrote:
I should know the game in and out from a couple weeks of playing 6 months ago isn't.


Did you not read the handbook?

If you take all the sand out of the box, only the cat poo will remain.
J'Poll
School of Applied Knowledge
Caldari State
#10 - 2012-05-27 12:12:10 UTC  |  Edited by: J'Poll
NEVER EVER undock with PLEX in your hold. There is no need to as you can redeem them in any station (also the station you want to sell it in)

This advice has been readily available on the internet already and you actually went on autopilots with almost a bil ISK in your hold which is plain stupid (actually whole AP is stupid).

Guy killed you in a ship which isn't by far worth the loot you dropped. For the ISK he got from killing you he can buy couple of more ships to do the same.

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Sabotaged
Veritas Vincit
#11 - 2012-05-27 12:23:46 UTC
Venjeance Moennan wrote:
Anyway, I bought a couple of PLEX and had them in my ship's cargo hold. There was a contract to buy some and it said it was only 4 jumps away so I set it as my destination and put it on auto-pilot so I could make a sandwich. Unfortunately when I came back I was in my pod, still on the way to the station;


I'm confused, when you purchase them from a contract the PLEX will be in the station. So your saying you picked them up and autopiloted to another station afterward?

Eve can be a harsh game, but I've never been ganked in hi-sec. Where you flying an ibis or other starter ship? I don't see why anyone else would attack you otherwise. Normally it's hard to gank at a hi-sec gate because Concord Police sits right there. Definitely stay out of Lowsec.

My friend got podded once cause another corp declared war on us, and after we already paid for our surrender and technically the war ends 24 hours after that which makes no sense to me. He accidentally left 30 minutes early and lost 500 million in implants and i lost 80 million isk in implants. I had bought those like 3 days before too.

Personally I would've opened up a petition explaining the situation. Your a new account and CCP wants it's people to keep playing plus you spent $40. If they're not forgiving under the circumstances I would be extremely surprised.

Remember though, the game can be harsh so you have to be careful. It's a game of patience.
J'Poll
School of Applied Knowledge
Caldari State
#12 - 2012-05-27 12:35:38 UTC
Sabotaged wrote:
Venjeance Moennan wrote:
Anyway, I bought a couple of PLEX and had them in my ship's cargo hold. There was a contract to buy some and it said it was only 4 jumps away so I set it as my destination and put it on auto-pilot so I could make a sandwich. Unfortunately when I came back I was in my pod, still on the way to the station;


I'm confused, when you purchase them from a contract the PLEX will be in the station. So your saying you picked them up and autopiloted to another station afterward?

Eve can be a harsh game, but I've never been ganked in hi-sec. Where you flying an ibis or other starter ship? I don't see why anyone else would attack you otherwise. Normally it's hard to gank at a hi-sec gate because Concord Police sits right there. Definitely stay out of Lowsec.

My friend got podded once cause another corp declared war on us, and after we already paid for our surrender and technically the war ends 24 hours after that which makes no sense to me. He accidentally left 30 minutes early and lost 500 million in implants and i lost 80 million isk in implants. I had bought those like 3 days before too.

Personally I would've opened up a petition explaining the situation. Your a new account and CCP wants it's people to keep playing plus you spent $40. If they're not forgiving under the circumstances I would be extremely surprised.

Remember though, the game can be harsh so you have to be careful. It's a game of patience.


He was flying a catalyst.

And most gankers will shoot you after they scanned you and see you have 2 PLEX in your hold (ak 900mil + ISK)

It will make them earn money even after they are killed by concord.

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gfldex
#13 - 2012-05-27 12:52:00 UTC
Sabotaged wrote:
Personally I would've opened up a petition explaining the situation. Your a new account and CCP wants it's people to keep playing plus you spent $40. If they're not forgiving under the circumstances I would be extremely surprised.


They can't do that because both PLEX dropped. Would be interesting to see how that goes in curt. Sadly $40 is a bit low to get a judges attention.

If you take all the sand out of the box, only the cat poo will remain.
J'Poll
School of Applied Knowledge
Caldari State
#14 - 2012-05-27 13:04:57 UTC
Sabotaged wrote:

Personally I would've opened up a petition explaining the situation. Your a new account and CCP wants it's people to keep playing plus you spent $40. If they're not forgiving under the circumstances I would be extremely surprised.


CCP won't reimburse ships or items due to proper game mechanics.

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Cetria Trem
Center for Advanced Studies
Gallente Federation
#15 - 2012-05-27 13:21:32 UTC
gfldex wrote:
Sabotaged wrote:
Personally I would've opened up a petition explaining the situation. Your a new account and CCP wants it's people to keep playing plus you spent $40. If they're not forgiving under the circumstances I would be extremely surprised.


They can't do that because both PLEX dropped. Would be interesting to see how that goes in curt. Sadly $40 is a bit low to get a judges attention.


http://eve-kill.net/?a=kill_detail&kll_id=1507472

Everyones a noob at some point.
Harbonah
Short Bus Window Licker
#16 - 2012-05-27 13:33:52 UTC  |  Edited by: Harbonah
My friend,
Please don't take this the wrong way but other players routinely lose hundreds of dollars worth of isk every single hour! Let me give you an example that might make you feel better.

You probably lost $40 worth of PLEX. Value in Isk is about 800 mill give or take.

Now be glad your not this guy
http://eve-kill.net/?a=kill_detail&kll_id=13455035

74 billion isk

Thats about $3690 tied up in one ship going poof if all of it were PLEX money.


Don't feel so bad now? Heck I'd say 10's of thousands of dollars worth of ISK in ships go poof on any given day in EVE.

Live learn and get better. If you get lost and need some advice feel free to contact me.

Good luck.
Sabotaged
Veritas Vincit
#17 - 2012-05-27 14:16:37 UTC  |  Edited by: Sabotaged
...:)
Sabotaged
Veritas Vincit
#18 - 2012-05-27 14:20:08 UTC  |  Edited by: Sabotaged
J'Poll wrote:


He was flying a catalyst.

And most gankers will shoot you after they scanned you and see you have 2 PLEX in your hold (ak 900mil + ISK)

It will make them earn money even after they are killed by concord.


Uh, I didn't even know you can scan other players cargo and Ive been playing for ilke 6 months. wow.

gfldex wrote:


Did you not read the handbook?


There is a handbook?
Surfin's PlunderBunny
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#19 - 2012-05-27 15:23:26 UTC
Sabotaged wrote:

First off anyone who spends over 3 and half thousand dollars on this game needs to seriously get a life.


a.... 2nd life? Straight

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Want to see what Surf is training or how little isk Surf has?  http://eveboard.com/pilot/Surfin%27s_PlunderBunny
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Doomheim
#20 - 2012-05-27 15:38:46 UTC
Sabotaged wrote:
Stupid stuffs


The guy bought PLEX and wanted to sell them, saw a contract was up 4 jumps away and went on his way to sell em to that contract <-- Is how I understood it.

And CCP wont "refund" you because you were, well, stupid. If the guy had actually sold his PLEX, bought a Nightmare and lost that he wouldnt get a refund either, its the same principle.
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