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Potatocat
Dreddit
Test Alliance Please Ignore
#1 - 2012-05-25 23:30:06 UTC
Hi All,

I was just having a chat with some corp mates and mentioned something that was obvious to me, but not to them, so mebbe this might be interesting for other people.

I like to the escapism of EVE and being a starship pilot.

We were discussing why ships could be scanned, even if they were painted black (did not reflect) and it is basically because they emit some kind of EM radiation or signalling no matter how well shielded (unless cloaked) which can be picked up??

open to debate :)

However, when you log off, are you not picked up in space anymore after the timeout, but why?

I always thought to myself that it was simple, because when you log off, you basically shut down all your onboard ship/pod systems and 'hibernate' in your random warp off - nothing on (except mebbe a v. v. v. basic life support), no radiation at all, nothing to be detected, and space is so big, no-one will bump into you in your random warp-off.

when you log back into eve, everything comes back online, including your signature in local channel and you ship in space?

anyways, was obvious to me, any thoughts?

Potatocat
Korbin Valenroth
Mom's Friendly Industrial Company
#2 - 2012-05-26 00:56:35 UTC
Potatocat wrote:
Hi All,

I was just having a chat with some corp mates and mentioned something that was obvious to me, but not to them, so mebbe this might be interesting for other people.

I like to the escapism of EVE and being a starship pilot.

We were discussing why ships could be scanned, even if they were painted black (did not reflect) and it is basically because they emit some kind of EM radiation or signalling no matter how well shielded (unless cloaked) which can be picked up??

open to debate :)

However, when you log off, are you not picked up in space anymore after the timeout, but why?

I always thought to myself that it was simple, because when you log off, you basically shut down all your onboard ship/pod systems and 'hibernate' in your random warp off - nothing on (except mebbe a v. v. v. basic life support), no radiation at all, nothing to be detected, and space is so big, no-one will bump into you in your random warp-off.

when you log back into eve, everything comes back online, including your signature in local channel and you ship in space?

anyways, was obvious to me, any thoughts?

Potatocat


Perhaps the ship slips into an alternate diminsion where humans have never left the confines of their world much less their solar system. What dull and dreary place it must be Idea.
Katrina Oniseki
Oniseki-Raata Internal Watch
Ishuk-Raata Enforcement Directive
#3 - 2012-05-26 02:41:55 UTC
Korbin Valenroth wrote:
Potatocat wrote:
Hi All,

I was just having a chat with some corp mates and mentioned something that was obvious to me, but not to them, so mebbe this might be interesting for other people.

I like to the escapism of EVE and being a starship pilot.

We were discussing why ships could be scanned, even if they were painted black (did not reflect) and it is basically because they emit some kind of EM radiation or signalling no matter how well shielded (unless cloaked) which can be picked up??

open to debate :)

However, when you log off, are you not picked up in space anymore after the timeout, but why?

I always thought to myself that it was simple, because when you log off, you basically shut down all your onboard ship/pod systems and 'hibernate' in your random warp off - nothing on (except mebbe a v. v. v. basic life support), no radiation at all, nothing to be detected, and space is so big, no-one will bump into you in your random warp-off.

when you log back into eve, everything comes back online, including your signature in local channel and you ship in space?

anyways, was obvious to me, any thoughts?

Potatocat


Perhaps the ship slips into an alternate diminsion where humans have never left the confines of their world much less their solar system. What dull and dreary place it must be Idea.


We did land on the moon, you know.

Katrina Oniseki
Che Biko
Alexylva Paradox
#4 - 2012-05-26 17:08:51 UTC
Korbin Valenroth
Mom's Friendly Industrial Company
#5 - 2012-05-26 22:20:39 UTC  |  Edited by: Korbin Valenroth
Katrina Oniseki wrote:
Korbin Valenroth wrote:
Potatocat wrote:
Hi All,

I was just having a chat with some corp mates and mentioned something that was obvious to me, but not to them, so mebbe this might be interesting for other people.

I like to the escapism of EVE and being a starship pilot.

We were discussing why ships could be scanned, even if they were painted black (did not reflect) and it is basically because they emit some kind of EM radiation or signalling no matter how well shielded (unless cloaked) which can be picked up??

open to debate :)

However, when you log off, are you not picked up in space anymore after the timeout, but why?

I always thought to myself that it was simple, because when you log off, you basically shut down all your onboard ship/pod systems and 'hibernate' in your random warp off - nothing on (except mebbe a v. v. v. basic life support), no radiation at all, nothing to be detected, and space is so big, no-one will bump into you in your random warp-off.

when you log back into eve, everything comes back online, including your signature in local channel and you ship in space?

anyways, was obvious to me, any thoughts?

Potatocat


Perhaps the ship slips into an alternate diminsion where humans have never left the confines of their world much less their solar system. What dull and dreary place it must be Idea.


We did land on the moon, you know.


Have you been to the moon?

Not me, WE have never left this place. Twelve men taking a 3 day excursion to the moon does not count.
Arista Shahni
Ministry of War
Amarr Empire
#6 - 2012-05-27 23:18:33 UTC
I tend to dock, and be contacted via alternate methods. ((such as Skype :P))

"I say that even as the holy and the righteous cannot rise beyond the highest which is in each one of you - so the wicked and the weak cannot fall lower than the lowest which is in you also.  And as a single leaf turns not yellow but with the silent knowledge of the whole tree, so the wrong-doer cannot do wrong without the hidden will of you all."
Tenyur Freir
Catgirl Snuggle Dungeon
#7 - 2012-05-28 03:05:38 UTC  |  Edited by: Tenyur Freir
Che Biko wrote:
I just figure we cloak and disconnect the NAV/COM equipment.

This seems reasonable. Perhaps, because you can't normally cloak your pod, it needs to shut down non-lifesupport systems to get the power to cloak.

Aggression, well... Something about recalibration? Increased signature? I don't know. Let's just leave that out. It doesn't seem necessary or reasonable to fiction-in.
Graelyn
Aeternus Command Academy
#8 - 2012-05-28 15:40:07 UTC  |  Edited by: Graelyn
The current 'unified theory' relates to the drag our ships create in space, which should be friction-less.

Ships in EVE drag in space like it's water, because our warp-cores create a dimple in space/time that we're constantly trudging through. Shutting down this field array takes on the order of 10-15 minutes to achieve....

Scanning targets finds these signatures.

If you're 'going dark' for extended time, you kill all heat-sources, power down the thrusters, and start the shutdown sequence on your warp drive. Hopefully someone doesn't find you in the meantime, because you're completely defenseless...

Hence, 'logging off' is really 'going cold'.

Cardinal Graelyn

Amarr Loyalist of the Year - YC113
Terazul
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#9 - 2012-05-29 04:54:31 UTC
Graelyn wrote:
The current 'unified theory' relates to the drag our ships create in space, which should be friction-less.

Ships in EVE drag in space like it's water, because our warp-cores create a dimple in space/time that we're constantly trudging through. Shutting down this field array takes on the order of 10-15 minutes to achieve....

Scanning targets finds these signatures.

If you're 'going dark' for extended time, you kill all heat-sources, power down the thrusters, and start the shutdown sequence on your warp drive. Hopefully someone doesn't find you in the meantime, because you're completely defenseless...

Hence, 'logging off' is really 'going cold'.

This is pretty much my take on it.

Space is a REALLY big place. If you tried to use visual sensors to find things, you'd be searching for a very, VERY long time, hence why we search for things using radiation instead. Ships, like stars, emit a huge amount of radiation relative to the near-zero background of space, making them very easy to detect with proper sensors. Without that radiation, they are much, much harder to find. And that's what happens when you log off - your ship pretty much disappears into the background of space, and nobody can find it because Space Is Big.