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The point of Incarna?

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Kristopher Arione
Pandemic Horde Inc.
Pandemic Horde
#1 - 2011-09-17 07:55:53 UTC  |  Edited by: Kristopher Arione
I've played eve for about 2 months now. I really dont see the point of this expansion. The nex store items are cool, but theres a snow balls chance that I'll pay 20 bucks for a shirt, or 70 bucks for a monocle. I'd pay 5 bucks maybe, 10 if it was awesome. CCP had to lose money on this feature, no one really buying, and having to pay the dev team for all those hours of coding. the captains quarters is nice, but its rather limited, gives me cabin fever, also no bathroom? my avatar must stink and need a change of pants badly. The thing that aggravates me most is every time i jump clone I need to reset my top lair to off and hair color, seiousley? why cant this remain constant?
malaire
#2 - 2011-09-17 08:34:55 UTC
There is not much point in Incarna - yet.
I'm waiting until winter expansion to judge Incarna. If we do get something to do in stations which wasn't possible before (establishments?) with ability to walk with others and not just alone - then Incarna does start to have a point.

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Skorpynekomimi
#3 - 2011-09-17 09:02:35 UTC
Even WITH the expansion, there won't be much point to it.

Ooh, walking in stations! You're a freaking capsuleer, why are you wandering around jita, and not flying around blowing things up?

Economic PVP

Akita T
Caldari Navy Volunteer Task Force
#4 - 2011-09-17 09:49:47 UTC
Well, there's several sides to this story :)
Basically, the main things to consider for now are:

a) EVE is much, much, MUCH better when actually played as a MULTIplayer game, and Incarna is supposed to be the same - too bad that, for now, we only have a small part of the single player experience

b) CQ is a tiny part of Incarna, and not really that representative of what Incarna is supposed to be like... somewhat representative of how Incarna is supposed to *look* like, sure, but that's about it (and hopefully even that will change soon, for the better, because frankly, it doesn't really look all that good yet)

c) the primary "consumer" of NEX items is (funny enough) not really supposed to be the RL disposable income demographic, but the in-game ISK-rich people - you're not really supposed to think of some shirt as being worth 30$, you're supposed to think of it as worth around 700 mil ISK
Tiger Armani
End-Game
#5 - 2011-09-17 09:56:34 UTC
The only thing that could come useful from CQ, would be option to beat the crap out of all those Jita's scam donkies.
Sir Substance
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#6 - 2011-09-17 10:08:47 UTC
Incarna is the promise of what is to come. If it does actually arrive, it'll be awesome. Unfortunately, CCP is not well known for finishing what they start.

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malaire
#7 - 2011-09-17 10:14:32 UTC
Skorpynekomimi wrote:
Even WITH the expansion, there won't be much point to it.

Ooh, walking in stations! You're a freaking capsuleer, why are you wandering around jita, and not flying around blowing things up?

Who cares about spaceships when you can be Station Trader? Cool

Anyway, my point is that there are many career options in EVE and not all of them need to include spaceships. I have a dream about someday being able to transport other players in ships. So that there could be players who only live in stations, using Taxi-service when they need to go to other stations, never needing to pilot a ship of their own.

EVE is all about choice, and I don't mind if such a choice would someday be possible.

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Toshiro GreyHawk
#8 - 2011-09-17 11:04:51 UTC
Releasing Incarna in it's present state was a mistake. Character movement and appearance are so crude - and the system bogs down so badly with Incarna loaded - that it is unusable. There's nothing they can learn from live server feed back that they shouldn't have been able to see in unit testing. It's just to horrible to have been released.

As to the ultimate purpose of Incarna? They say they want some kind of whole game experience. That and I think ... they think ... that they are losing money to people who want a body they can walk around it. Without massive amounts of game content though ... there isn't going to be that much for people to do. I mean ... how much time can you spend walking around inside a station? Who the hell wants to walk down a corridor to the elevator - get on - stand around with a few other toons - get off and walk down yet another corridor to some guy's booth - where he won't be logged in - to try and buy something from him - instead of just calling up the market window?

My guess is that they want some kind of The Sims in Spaaaaaace game. The problem there - is that there are already games out there that are dedicated to that type of game play. Why would anyone want to play some half assed version of a social game that's been tacked onto an Internet Space Ships game?

The only useful purpose I've ever seen to such things - was making emote videos to post on You Tube.


Yes ... here they come ... the same links I always post in these threads - so if you've seen my posts on this before - it's the same ones as always ... but if not - here's what I think Incarna is good for:

Oblivion

Note here - that the really cool thing - is the after market player created mods that made this video possible.


Guild Wars

Note here the extensive set of built in emotes and the clothing optional choice we don't have in character creation.



But - of course - last but far from least - the one and only thing that would make me give a damn about Avatar's In EVE:

Planetside - Art of the MCG


And ... NO ... I don't intend to purchase a console just so I can play Dust 514 ... I'm talking about an actually useful purpose for Incarna in EVE - which is shooting each other.



Now - the last comment on these videos - and part of the reason for posting them - is that even though these are from fairly old games (PS came out in 2003) - they are still MUCH better at character movement and appearance than what we have in CQ.

Given the contrast between CQ and what we see in Character Creation - which is what I expected to see when I entered the Captains Quarters - what the hell was the point in releasing something so badly done?

Did they really need to send that code live to realize that it sucked?

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Raendel
#9 - 2011-09-17 15:25:52 UTC
No idea really. I came to Eve because I wanted to fly spaceships, not walk around corridors.

Also, the NEx items... are you kidding me? I can't believe Eve has an item shop. Granted, it's only vanity items, but once the business people get a taste of the quarterly profit margin they'll want to expand.

Only two things are infinite: the universe and human stupidity, although I'm not sure about the universe. - Albert Einstein

Flakey Foont
#10 - 2011-09-17 15:50:42 UTC
Walking toons have been begged for a long time. A segment of the playerbase wants it. What YOU like is not the end all of everything.

Hell, I have an alt who never leaves the station as he is a trader.

I don't much care for the added GPU load and am not a very social person, but if someone else loves it so be it....

If you think CCP came up with the Incarna idea in a vacuum and are forcing it on us, good luck in your business ventures.

My main issue is that they should have waited until the whole thing was finished before rolling it out.
Raendel
#11 - 2011-09-17 16:28:49 UTC
Quote:
Walking toons have been begged for a long time. A segment of the playerbase wants it. What YOU like is not the end all of everything.


I was just stating my opinion.

I am sorry if it upset you.

Only two things are infinite: the universe and human stupidity, although I'm not sure about the universe. - Albert Einstein

Kristopher Arione
Pandemic Horde Inc.
Pandemic Horde
#12 - 2011-09-18 00:04:40 UTC
It would have been best if this was a polished release it seems, but the thing is 700 mil IS 35 bucks, because of the plex conversion, my nightmare? it isint 2 billion, its 106 bucks. you cant separate the values anymore