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Moon mineing (O-Tec) needs a "balance"

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Devious Relation
Obsessive Compulsive Disasters
#141 - 2012-05-26 19:50:04 UTC  |  Edited by: Devious Relation
HTFU? No ill remain squishy if i wish.

The longer the issue goes unchanged the worse it will be. The less and less likely it is that the scales can or will be tipped. The only hope i guess is that once everyone becomes blue, people will get bored.
Alia Gon'die
Outer Ring Applied Logistics
#142 - 2012-05-26 20:52:51 UTC
Devious Relation wrote:
HTFU? No ill remain squishy if i wish.

The longer the issue goes unchanged the worse it will be. The less and less likely it is that the scales can or will be tipped. The only hope i guess is that once everyone becomes blue, people will get bored.


I hate to say it, but I guess that sucks for you. It's getting fixed, it isn't getting rushed, and when it comes out it will put that massive moon income into the hands of the average players instead of alliance wallets.

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Jonah Gravenstein
Machiavellian Space Bastards
#143 - 2012-05-27 02:06:16 UTC  |  Edited by: Jonah Gravenstein
Lets face it, Goons=Content, I only see a few other groups that produce as much content for the community to enjoy or hate.

They have no master plan, what they do have is that they take a mischievous delight in messing with people on a large scale and some particularly deviant planners that will one day do well in gov't service or banking.

Their propaganda is both amusing and effective, politics really does drive the whole game and they're good at it, and like politicians they have no morals in game, particularly when it comes to somebody else space pixels.

I've seen Goons described as Marmite, most apt.

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Alia Gon'die
Outer Ring Applied Logistics
#144 - 2012-05-27 03:51:07 UTC
Jonah Gravenstein wrote:
Lets face it, Goons=Content, I only see a few other groups that produce as much content for the community to enjoy or hate.

They have no master plan, what they do have is that they take a mischievous delight in messing with people on a large scale and some particularly deviant planners that will one day do well in gov't service or banking.

Their propaganda is both amusing and effective, politics really does drive the whole game and they're good at it, and like politicians they have no morals in game, particularly when it comes to somebody else space pixels.

I've seen Goons described as Marmite, most apt.


Another apt analogy for Goons are the Orks from WH40K.

Wikipedia wrote:
Ork culture circulates around seemingly random violence, which dominates every aspect of their culture. However, to characterize it as evil, malicious, or racist is to ignore the fact that it is in their nature. Most competitive activities amongst fellow Orks end in death. In fact, most activities Orks engage in involve death. This may be a byproduct of the rather brutal 40K universe, however, and it is possible that behavioral conditioning of Orks could result in a more placid lifeform.


Ork behavior is dominated by the WAAAAAGH!, a gestalt psychic field they generate that affects the Ork psyche, as it allows Orks to instinctively recognize who is 'bigga N' Dead Killy' and therefore in charge, which also feeds into the physiological expressions of success. All Orks generate this field, and it grows stronger as the Orks enjoy themselves, generally while fighting. The WAAAAAGH! helps give momentum (and the name) to the Orks' planet-crushing WAAAAAGH!s. These WAAAAAGH!s are a cross between a mass migration, holy war, looting party and pub brawl, with a bit of genocide thrown in for good measure. Millions of Orks will gather together, drawn to the power of a single dominant Ork called a Warboss, who are essentially extremely successful Ork Nobs, distinguished from most Nobs thanks to their higher level of intelligence, many qualifying as geniuses even by human standards (which is not to say that Warbosses are always intelligent; some are simply too big, too green, and too strong to be resisted), though their lack of education can often lead their enemies to assume their stupidity (which is usually the last mistake they make). Once assembled into a huge mass, consisting of hundreds of millions or even billions of Orks and their countless ramshackle vehicles and spacecraft, the Orks will set off to find an enemy to fight - any enemy. Ork Waaagh!s will sweep whole planetary systems away and destroy armies and fleets in tides of bloodlust and carnage, and only once the Orks have killed every available enemy will they start to fight amongst themselves again.

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Alavaria Fera
GoonWaffe
#145 - 2012-05-27 04:33:02 UTC
Alia Gon'die wrote:
Another apt analogy for Goons are the Orks from WH40K.

I thought we were chaos space marines or something?

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TheButcherPete
KarmaFleet
Goonswarm Federation
#146 - 2012-05-27 04:36:27 UTC
Nice forumalt. Also, living in 0.0 is the greatest risk you can take in EVE, people can TAKE the O-TEC moons, Every system that a Tech moon sits in is NOT highsec. If you're so pissed off about Tech prices, go kill one of the pos. The fact that you're sitting behind the highsec fence and bitching about tech moons is hilarious.

If people were pissed about Tech prices enough, they'd do something to change them. Until then, stfu. The Tech Nerf is incoming, just be patient. If you decide to quit this "game", can I has your stuff?

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Alia Gon'die
Outer Ring Applied Logistics
#147 - 2012-05-27 04:50:45 UTC
TheButcherPete wrote:
Nice forumalt. Also, living in 0.0 is the greatest risk you can take in EVE, people can TAKE the O-TEC moons, Every system that a Tech moon sits in is NOT highsec. If you're so pissed off about Tech prices, go kill one of the pos. The fact that you're sitting behind the highsec fence and bitching about tech moons is hilarious.

If people were pissed about Tech prices enough, they'd do something to change them. Until then, stfu. The Tech Nerf is incoming, just be patient. If you decide to quit this "game", can I has your stuff?


They're pissed because they literally can't take them, despite trying many, many time. Our logi guys are just too good, our pilots are just too ready to shoot up some -A-.

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Alavaria Fera
GoonWaffe
#148 - 2012-05-27 05:48:23 UTC
Alia Gon'die wrote:
TheButcherPete wrote:
Nice forumalt. Also, living in 0.0 is the greatest risk you can take in EVE, people can TAKE the O-TEC moons, Every system that a Tech moon sits in is NOT highsec. If you're so pissed off about Tech prices, go kill one of the pos. The fact that you're sitting behind the highsec fence and bitching about tech moons is hilarious.

If people were pissed about Tech prices enough, they'd do something to change them. Until then, stfu. The Tech Nerf is incoming, just be patient. If you decide to quit this "game", can I has your stuff?


They're pissed because they literally can't take them, despite trying many, many time. Our logi guys are just too good, our pilots are just too ready to shoot up some -A-.

They know that little Probe sitting next to those repping carriers has 500+ CFC members on the other side sitting on a titan.

~blobbers~

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sweetrock
#149 - 2012-05-27 12:37:19 UTC
Lets face it, the game is so broken I think CCP havwe just accepted the fact it is past repair
Ammzi
Dreddit
Test Alliance Please Ignore
#150 - 2012-05-27 12:50:38 UTC
I had fun in incursions, but to be completely frank CCP's modification were a direct nuke from orbit.
The only thing that is left now is a hollow ruin of what used to be.

This coming from a "veteran" incursion runner, FC, former BTL operator and "griefing" incursion pilot.
Hands down it was a really bad modification by CCP. I mean take a look at the incursion reports, they can only keep one of the incursions in highsec running at anytime. When there used to be 3 up earlier with 100 % blue influence.

Snap.
Mortimer Civeri
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
#151 - 2012-05-27 15:49:09 UTC
sweetrock wrote:
Lets face it, the game is so broken I think CCP havwe just accepted the fact it is past repair

So quit, but before you do can I haz ur stuffs?

"I don't know which is worse, ...that everyone has his price, or that the price is always so low." Calvin

Mortimer Civeri
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
#152 - 2012-05-27 15:49:54 UTC
Ammzi wrote:
I had fun in incursions, but to be completely frank CCP's modification were a direct nuke from orbit.
The only thing that is left now is a hollow ruin of what used to be.

This coming from a "veteran" incursion runner, FC, former BTL operator and "griefing" incursion pilot.
Hands down it was a really bad modification by CCP. I mean take a look at the incursion reports, they can only keep one of the incursions in highsec running at anytime. When there used to be 3 up earlier with 100 % blue influence.

Snap.

So, working as intended?

"I don't know which is worse, ...that everyone has his price, or that the price is always so low." Calvin

Jessie-A Tassik
Pator Tech School
Minmatar Republic
#153 - 2012-05-27 18:06:04 UTC
Mortimer Civeri wrote:
Ammzi wrote:
I had fun in incursions, but to be completely frank CCP's modification were a direct nuke from orbit.
The only thing that is left now is a hollow ruin of what used to be.

This coming from a "veteran" incursion runner, FC, former BTL operator and "griefing" incursion pilot.
Hands down it was a really bad modification by CCP. I mean take a look at the incursion reports, they can only keep one of the incursions in highsec running at anytime. When there used to be 3 up earlier with 100 % blue influence.

Snap.

So, working as intended?


I can see your happy as competition to Goon tech moon income has been removed.

Now if only they could get Goon tech moon income working as intended.

Unless, of course, it already is.
Lord Zim
Gallente Federation
#154 - 2012-05-27 18:10:34 UTC
Jessie-A Tassik wrote:
competition to Goon tech moon income

The what?

Cyno's lit, bridge is up, but one pilot won't be jumping home.

RIP Vile Rat

Nikodiemus
Ganja Clade
Shadow Cartel
#155 - 2012-05-27 18:13:51 UTC
Tinnin Sylph wrote:
When even WIDOT can tell you how dumb you are you know you're in all kinds of trouble.


Quoting for truth and justice. Terrible inputs, terrible posters, terrible people, terrible corplliance, and BFF. And drunks, lots of drunks. Less now though.....

TBH though I could care less about Tec nonsense but all those poor useless moons sitting idly makes me sad. Make more moons viable and mats useful instead of crying over spilt cartel breast milk.
Mortimer Civeri
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
#156 - 2012-05-27 19:08:12 UTC
Jessie-A Tassik wrote:
Mortimer Civeri wrote:
Ammzi wrote:
I had fun in incursions, but to be completely frank CCP's modification were a direct nuke from orbit.

The only thing that is left now is a hollow ruin of what used to be. This coming from a "veteran" incursion runner, FC, former BTL operator and "griefing" incursion pilot. Hands down it was a really bad modification by CCP. I mean take a look at the incursion reports, they can only keep one of the incursions in highsec running at anytime. When there used to be 3 up earlier with 100 % blue influence. Snap.

So, working as intended?

I can see your happy as competition to Goon tech moon income has been removed.

Now if only they could get Goon tech moon income working as intended.

Unless, of course, it already is.

They fought for it, and defend it,. Let em have it, or take some from them. YOUR CHOICE! As to the easy and virtually RISK FREE ISK faucet that was Incursions before the "tweek", I say good riddance. To much reward for to little risk. Flooding ISK into the economy, from Incursion rewards, wasn't doing the eve economy any good.

Before you say that Tech is an ISK faucet, I want you to show me the blueprint that turns tech into ISK. Until CCP changes things, Yea, working as intended, go cry in the corner with the other forum babies, crying about Goons and tech. HTFU or GTFO, Meanwhile I'm going to invent more projectile guns to sell. Hopefully to both sides of whatever conflict is going on because IDGAF about Goons, tech, or Incursions getting nerfed.

"I don't know which is worse, ...that everyone has his price, or that the price is always so low." Calvin

sweetrock
#157 - 2012-05-27 19:11:37 UTC
Mortimer Civeri wrote:
Jessie-A Tassik wrote:
Mortimer Civeri wrote:
Ammzi wrote:
I had fun in incursions, but to be completely frank CCP's modification were a direct nuke from orbit.

The only thing that is left now is a hollow ruin of what used to be. This coming from a "veteran" incursion runner, FC, former BTL operator and "griefing" incursion pilot. Hands down it was a really bad modification by CCP. I mean take a look at the incursion reports, they can only keep one of the incursions in highsec running at anytime. When there used to be 3 up earlier with 100 % blue influence. Snap.

So, working as intended?

I can see your happy as competition to Goon tech moon income has been removed.

Now if only they could get Goon tech moon income working as intended.

Unless, of course, it already is.

They fought for it, and defend it,. Let em have it, or take some from them. YOUR CHOICE! As to the easy and virtually RISK FREE ISK faucet that was Incursions before the "tweek", I say good riddance. To much reward for to little risk. Flooding ISK into the economy, from Incursion rewards, wasn't doing the eve economy any good.

Before you say that Tech is an ISK faucet, I want you to show me the blueprint that turns tech into ISK. Until CCP changes things, Yea, working as intended, go cry in the corner with the other forum babies, crying about Goons and tech. HTFU or GTFO, Meanwhile I'm going to invent more projectile guns to sell. Hopefully to both sides of whatever conflict is going on because IDGAF about Goons, tech, or Incursions getting nerfed.



You jsut said it yourself, you dont give a F about incursions goons or tech, so please reframe from posting in threads which are specificaly started to talk about them. If you dont have a opinion because you dont give a F then dont post. SImple

Maybe go make a thread about "inventing guns"
Jessie-A Tassik
Pator Tech School
Minmatar Republic
#158 - 2012-05-27 19:11:53 UTC  |  Edited by: Jessie-A Tassik
Mortimer Civeri wrote:
Jessie-A Tassik wrote:
Mortimer Civeri wrote:
Ammzi wrote:
I had fun in incursions, but to be completely frank CCP's modification were a direct nuke from orbit.

The only thing that is left now is a hollow ruin of what used to be. This coming from a "veteran" incursion runner, FC, former BTL operator and "griefing" incursion pilot. Hands down it was a really bad modification by CCP. I mean take a look at the incursion reports, they can only keep one of the incursions in highsec running at anytime. When there used to be 3 up earlier with 100 % blue influence. Snap.

So, working as intended?

I can see your happy as competition to Goon tech moon income has been removed.

Now if only they could get Goon tech moon income working as intended.

Unless, of course, it already is.

They fought for it, and defend it,. Let em have it, or take some from them. YOUR CHOICE! As to the easy and virtually RISK FREE ISK faucet that was Incursions before the "tweek", I say good riddance. To much reward for to little risk. Flooding ISK into the economy, from Incursion rewards, wasn't doing the eve economy any good.

Before you say that Tech is an ISK faucet, I want you to show me the blueprint that turns tech into ISK. Until CCP changes things, Yea, working as intended, go cry in the corner with the other forum babies, crying about Goons and tech. HTFU or GTFO, Meanwhile I'm going to invent more projectile guns to sell. Hopefully to both sides of whatever conflict is going on because IDGAF about Goons, tech, or Incursions getting nerfed.


My my, Goon boy, where is the snarky punk now?

Are you worried your unearned wealth will be taken away?

You claim you fought hard for it, but did you really? And was that fight REALLY risky enough to justify your reward?

I say that you DID NOT earn that much wealth, and it should be removed TODAY.

About 1/4 your current tech moon income would be fair, I think.

Risk/Reward baby, Risk/Reward.
Lord Zim
Gallente Federation
#159 - 2012-05-27 19:20:14 UTC
Jessie-A Tassik wrote:
Are you worried your unearned wealth will be taken away?

How can he be worried about something happening which we've been advocating for years already?

Jessie-A Tassik wrote:
You claim you fought hard for it, but did you really? And was that fight REALLY risky enough to justify your reward?

Yes, we have, and yes, it was.

Jessie-A Tassik wrote:
I say that you DID NOT earn that much wealth, and it should be removed TODAY.

You know where our moons are, come and take them if you think CCP isn't working quickly enough for you.

Jessie-A Tassik wrote:
About 1/4 your current tech moon income would be fair, I think.

I'm pretty sure you'll keep whining even if we went further down than that.

Cyno's lit, bridge is up, but one pilot won't be jumping home.

RIP Vile Rat

sweetrock
#160 - 2012-05-27 19:22:43 UTC  |  Edited by: sweetrock
[quote=Lord Zim][You know where our moons are, come and take them if you think CCP isn't working quickly enough for you. [quote]

Whats wrong there zim zimmety zim zim zaroooooooo all that blueball getting boring??