Wormholes

having perma blues in w-space tends to end up with someone else in w-space invading you

I'm starting to believe that everyome that says that they are NBSI, but will help you out in need if you ask, are only laying a meta trap...

i think if one alliance would break its word time and time again they'd pretty soon face half the wh alliances on the base of "wh etiquette" (i hate that word)

I suppose its like the unwritten law. Breaking a ransom as a pirate leads to your demise and tarnishes your name & back stab people in a WH and you will get evicted.

I always honor requests for an escape route but if they are doing sites I make them eject sleeper loot first

You just lost the privilege of "gf" in local bro

Ooo is that similar to me being diplo?

tbh, i hate the batphone craze that has take over WH pvp.
generally all it does is lead to blobs and people pulling out of fights.

for example, Exhale recently attacked a TLC occupied system.
TLC had a roughly equal sized fleet with a half dozen caps for support but instead they batphoned 4 other large WH groups to bail them out, at least 2 of which are a match for exhale or their own.

in the end it didnt work out for them anyway but that kind of 'omg come save us and get free kills!!!' mentality belongs in nullsec, not WHs.

yeah there are times it is warranted but doing it every time youre on the seemingly losing side of a fight gets lame real fast.
TLC specifically are notorious for threatening to bring in AHARM when they get attacked...

I'm pretty inclined to agree with this. No need to bring a S&W 500 when a model 686 will do. If you want good fights, see what they've got, and bring what you figure can beat it with some forces in reserve.

I totally agree. Let me describe this last weekend's op in bullet points.

• we find C2 with 6 corps in it
• clearly something homo is going on between these corps. To Maldoror it "who are their backers?"
• Cue a craptonne of structure grind and camping to draw out a fight.
• Oh, hey, its Sleeper Social Club / Kill It With Fire / Red Circle / others with 30-40 T3's and assorted sauce, vs DOA's 15 T2's/BS/nubs.
• Touche, gentlemen.
• No goodfites, just a mostly successful withdrawal in the face of overwhelming firepower -/- a poor escapecage with orca.

Le shrug. It happens. Our batphone was busy, other people got octopused into the Great All Inclusive Hisec Gay Pride Parade AKA Wardec, and so we couldn't rock-paper-scissors SSC and friends. It was wasted effort, but you can't win them all.

I would have enjoyed a fight, if they'd brought something we could have had a chance against. Perhaps they'd have got more kills if they weren't as subtle as a fat girl in a miniskirt. No doubt they enjoyed camping our alt-corp siege POS these past few days, but we got 50 toons out safely.

Other times, we haven't. But you can't avoid the social engineering, and sometimes you can't predict who is on the batphone, if anyone. Sometimes your batphone doesn't get picked up. You have to deal with it versus ostrich-neck the whole thing and grumble about how everyone should be purists and stand on their own two feet as a corp/alliance and just roll with being donut-punched all the time.

Not that you have much to worry about, Jack, as long as your hexa-boxing C5 ratting goes smoothly and Exhale. stays near the top, it will remain an annoyance for good fights and something you'd prefer not to use yourself - and often probably can avoid using.

30-40 t3s and other stuff, umm not really we had like 30 guys total and not all in t3s, http://eve-kill.net/?a=kill_detail&kll_id=13493239. Could we have brought more sure i dont think even half of each corp showed up. You say you had a 15 man noob fleet but got 50 toons out things dont quite add up. Also whats up with a private public chat.

edit: technically its not a uni WH but open to Uni members