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Qui Shon
Lone Wolf Freelancers
#21 - 2012-05-25 17:18:50 UTC
Celery Man wrote:
I believe your looking at it the wrong way OP, everyone in wormhole space is very friendly, its just that our prefered handshake is a pitched battle with spaceships.

This isn't some kind of metaphor that were all bloodthirsty, we just purely enjoy having spaceship battles, and living in wormhole spae affords us the ISK to fly really really fun spaceships. It really really isn't any more complicated than that.

The only time people run foul of large scale group action is when someone wants to use wormholes for anything other than a paradise full of people to battle with, and plenty of ISK to support said battles in fine fashion.


Many people *say* they want pitched battles, they may even believe it, but in the end what they really want is to win first, and will gladly sacrifice the "pitched" bit to that end. W-space is no different in this regard. Nothing wrong with that mind, it is the nature of Eve, just too much pretense of something else.

br,
Qui Shon, professional party pooper, because truth, ya'know. Too much bs around.
Celery Man
Ministry of War
Amarr Empire
#22 - 2012-05-25 17:28:03 UTC
Qui Shon wrote:
Celery Man wrote:
I believe your looking at it the wrong way OP, everyone in wormhole space is very friendly, its just that our prefered handshake is a pitched battle with spaceships.

This isn't some kind of metaphor that were all bloodthirsty, we just purely enjoy having spaceship battles, and living in wormhole spae affords us the ISK to fly really really fun spaceships. It really really isn't any more complicated than that.

The only time people run foul of large scale group action is when someone wants to use wormholes for anything other than a paradise full of people to battle with, and plenty of ISK to support said battles in fine fashion.


Many people *say* they want pitched battles, they may even believe it, but in the end what they really want is to win first, and will gladly sacrifice the "pitched" bit to that end. W-space is no different in this regard. Nothing wrong with that mind, it is the nature of Eve, just too much pretense of something else.

br,
Qui Shon, professional party pooper, because truth, ya'know. Too much bs around.


This is very true :) it is mostly about the explosions
Asuri Kinnes
Perkone
Caldari State
#23 - 2012-05-25 18:59:21 UTC  |  Edited by: Asuri Kinnes
Klarion Sythis wrote:
I definitely endorse the no blues policy. In higher class wormholes at least, it already takes a long time to roll into a hole that has people in it, and nothing would be more aggravating than to finally find targets and see that they're blue. There's also no need to blue anyone. Most of the time, people aren't trying to evict you, so you don't need allies to help you defend your home unless your favorite pass time is going around throwing sand in people's eyes. Now if you go blue everyone up and won't fight anybody, then you might very well need those blues...


ADHC endorses this.

We call it "FAP NOT NAP"!

Friendly Aggression Pact not Non-Aggression Pact.

Friendly aggression pact means we shoot each other in the face today. Tomorrow we band together to shoot someone else in the face, and the day after we shoot each other in the face some more.

Blues and Pinks are for babies.

ADHC, FAP friendly, Nap Intolerant.
Qui Shon wrote:
Blues? Of course not, but that's just my own private opinion.


Adhocracy said it best:
http://i.imgur.com/mM4mC.jpg

Asay will be happy his art is appreciated!

Bob is the god of Wormholes.

That's all you need to know.
Sarina Berghil
New Zion Judge Advocate
#24 - 2012-05-25 19:19:13 UTC
I condone Asuri's message.

But I will also say that Wh corps can be very different in how they do things. Some like gunboat diplomacy, others like helping each other out and creating bonds.

This is sometimes related to size and power. Large powerful corps can get away with being more aggresive, smaller corps needs to be pragmatic more often.

Whether fapping or napping most corps are good sports about it, I like that.
Memoocan
Adhocracy Incorporated
Adhocracy
#25 - 2012-05-25 19:45:12 UTC
I heard there was fapping so I came.








Lol
Asayanami Dei
Adhocracy Incorporated
Adhocracy
#26 - 2012-05-25 20:05:01 UTC
W-space is like fight club. We punch you in the face in hope you will punch back, but when you need help to kick someone else in the balls, we're there for you.

As a diplo i must say, it's not uncommon among wh dwellers to ask for help and recieve it from their 'enemies' they shoot and smack every other day of the week. It's all for good fun and well being of the wh pvp community, which IMO is one of the best in eve.

We dont care much for politics (at least adhocracy doesn't), all we care about is having friends we can shoot when we can/want and be able to team up with them a day after to fight off somebody else.

As long as you play along, fight when there's a fight to be had, keep it civil, you'll do great here.

I'm a leaf on the wind, watch how I--THE CAPACITOR IS EMPTY

Youtube: /asayanami

Twitter: @asayanami

wormholefundamentals.com
Messoroz
AQUILA INC
#27 - 2012-05-25 20:18:06 UTC
Godfrey Silvarna wrote:
Shoot ship first, shoot pod second and ask questions later.

I have never understood people who announce their prencence in Local, not to mention expecting others to do the same.


I announce my prescense all the time, mostly because people just run away.
Ayeson
State War Academy
Caldari State
#28 - 2012-05-25 20:34:13 UTC  |  Edited by: Ayeson
Cybus Max wrote:
Theres a difference between asking for a route out if someone becomes trapped and being blue.

If someone asks for a route out then it is up to the discression of the people involved. Most people are willing to pay for a way out but if you refuse outright fair enough, don't expect to catch the person if they know what there doing they will log out as soon as they see the probes.... And then SD l8tr.

Only thing i would say if you agree to give a route out don't then backstab them... This tends to end with you getting invaded :)

Also i seriously disagree with WH perma blue coalitions. Doing the occasioanly op with other WH entities because you either fancy something different or can't handle it solo fair enough but perma blue... Go live in 0.0


In Local
"Help guys, My WH closed and my legion is trapped at a planet" - Cybus

HRDKX Command Channel
"Aw dude hes stuck, lets help him" - Ayeson

Then there was a really bad attempt at baiting with a proteus and we died :(

I ♥ the orthrus
Cybus Max
Immortalis Inc.
Shadow Cartel
#29 - 2012-05-25 23:08:44 UTC  |  Edited by: Cybus Max
i didn't say anything about lying about being trapped out :P

I admit to the really bad go at baiting but TBF props to hard knocks when they engaged they knew we had a decent fleet and they still went for it

It may also interest you to know that in that particular fight our 'scout' missed your entire fleet and it was only when i was acting like a noob warping round system that I noticed the large number of ships on D scan and subsequently **** myself and demanded that the guards damn well add me to their watch lists :P
Apolyon I
Shadow of ISW
#30 - 2012-05-25 23:32:45 UTC  |  Edited by: Apolyon I
Qui Shon wrote:
Celery Man wrote:
I believe your looking at it the wrong way OP, everyone in wormhole space is very friendly, its just that our prefered handshake is a pitched battle with spaceships.

This isn't some kind of metaphor that were all bloodthirsty, we just purely enjoy having spaceship battles, and living in wormhole spae affords us the ISK to fly really really fun spaceships. It really really isn't any more complicated than that.

The only time people run foul of large scale group action is when someone wants to use wormholes for anything other than a paradise full of people to battle with, and plenty of ISK to support said battles in fine fashion.


Many people *say* they want pitched battles, they may even believe it, but in the end what they really want is to win first, and will gladly sacrifice the "pitched" bit to that end. W-space is no different in this regard. Nothing wrong with that mind, it is the nature of Eve, just too much pretense of something else.

br,
Qui Shon, professional party pooper, because truth, ya'know. Too much bs around.

not really, what's the fun to shoot at things that don't shoot back??

EDIT: I wiki "pitched battle", hope I get it right
Hathrul
School of Applied Knowledge
Caldari State
#31 - 2012-05-26 00:38:47 UTC
Asayanami Dei wrote:
W-space is like fight club. We punch you in the face in hope you will punch back, but when you need help to kick someone else in the balls, we're there for you.

As a diplo i must say, it's not uncommon among wh dwellers to ask for help and recieve it from their 'enemies' they shoot and smack every other day of the week. It's all for good fun and well being of the wh pvp community, which IMO is one of the best in eve.

We dont care much for politics (at least adhocracy doesn't), all we care about is having friends we can shoot when we can/want and be able to team up with them a day after to fight off somebody else.

As long as you play along, fight when there's a fight to be had, keep it civil, you'll do great here.


basically this. if help is asked there is a fair chance you can get it from the others. but permanent blues just make for less people to shoot. alliances form and fall every day, thats how it should be. dont blue, just, if you give your word, keep it
Ayeson
State War Academy
Caldari State
#32 - 2012-05-26 05:27:31 UTC
Cybus Max wrote:
i didn't say anything about lying about being trapped out :P


It was pretty hilarious and when we found your hole and saw the fleet and you told us to come at you bro...i couldn't help myself

Cybus Max wrote:
our 'scout' missed your entire fleet


Location Location Location :)

I ♥ the orthrus
Alyna Stormwind
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#33 - 2012-05-26 06:28:31 UTC
wormholes are one of the best place to hide if you're a carebear. Nothing more nothing less.
Bernie Nator
Seal Club Six
Plug N Play
#34 - 2012-05-26 06:41:54 UTC
I love bears. I love the sound their pod makes as it autoejects from the ship upon seeing my tornado.
Nathan Jameson
Grumpy Bastards
#35 - 2012-05-26 07:28:09 UTC  |  Edited by: Nathan Jameson
Having blues in different systems doesn't do much for wormhole dwellers, as you're so disconnected. Believe me, we know this first hand from being in an old wormhole "coalition" that failed. And that's assuming they bother to come out to help at all.

As has been said, making potent friends matters a lot more in the long run, and you do this by interacting with us. With guns. Doesn't even matter if you win or lose; the goal is mutual respect and comraderie.

That way, when you do finally get sieged and need help, we'll remember you as "oh yeah those guys who XYZ" instead of just "those guys who blueball us every time."

http://www.wormholes.info
MadbaM
Viziam
Amarr Empire
#36 - 2012-05-26 08:25:43 UTC
Kalel Nimrott wrote:
I wanna FAP. Where do I sign?


It's not something you can sign up to, its a special type of hand shake.
Talonaer
Perkone
Caldari State
#37 - 2012-05-26 09:49:07 UTC
Blues in WH Space is bad mkay? unless its temporary for big ops/people that fly together alot. Otherwise just = less targets = unhappy me.

Most of the big WH alliances have good banter with each other and still blow each other up daily. No butt hurt here.
Klokvarg
Adhocracy Incorporated
Adhocracy
#38 - 2012-05-26 18:18:13 UTC
Talonaer wrote:
Most of the big WH alliances have good banter with each other and still blow each other up daily. No butt hurt here.



It's how we express our affection for each-other, just like in grade school when you shoved the cute girl you liked!

http://www.wormholefundamentals.com
Jack Miton
School of Applied Knowledge
Caldari State
#39 - 2012-05-26 21:28:19 UTC
Having blues in WHs, apart from temp blues for big ops, is almost universally a bad thing.

There is no Bob.

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Archdaimon
Merchants of the Golden Goose
#40 - 2012-05-26 22:13:14 UTC
FAP it is.

Wormholes have the best accoustics. It's known. - Sing it for me -