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Further Example CCP Refuses To Listen
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Sid Hudgens
Doomheim
#41 - 2012-05-24 14:53:50 UTC
GTFO you whiny little *****

"....as if 10,058 Goon voices cried out and were suddenly silenced."
Ammzi
Dreddit
Test Alliance Please Ignore
#42 - 2012-05-24 14:55:00 UTC
I like the launcher tbh...
Jonah Gravenstein
Machiavellian Space Bastards
#43 - 2012-05-24 14:56:19 UTC
I & some of my friends fall into the demographic that the OP assumes is calling for suicide ganking to be outlawed, we're not calling for it to outlawed, in fact we think it's bloody hilarious and are considering joining in the fun just to make people like the OP QQ some more. Suicide ganking isn't going anywhere soon, it's become a core component of hisec PVP and generally only catches the unwary, AFK/ autopiloting players and bots.

In the beginning there was nothing, which exploded.

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Feyd's Survival Pack
Ban Bindy
Bindy Brothers Pottery Association
True Reign
#44 - 2012-05-24 14:57:42 UTC
What on earth makes you think you alone can speak for the entire player base? No one likes it, no one wants it. How do you know? Where's your data?

I don't have a problem with the launcher. I never had a problem with the launcher.

I didn't have a problem with the Incarna patch.

I don't have a problem with the new inventory system. It will get better as it's worked on.

The real problem CCP has is players like you who presume to speak for everybody. The forums are not the game.
Kiteo Hatto
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#45 - 2012-05-24 14:58:23 UTC  |  Edited by: Kiteo Hatto
Don't people who complain about stuff like this think that CCP has a grand goal in mind(walking in stations/dust 514 and beyond) and the only way for the to achieve it is by updating their game bit by bit ?

Imagine if they kept the game the same from 2004 up til now and changed everything at once, boy.....the amount of tears would there be.

Those people with P4's sure as hell wouldn't be able to play the game, it would be in your words "too effects heavy".
CCP is doing what they can to not keep the game the same for too long.
People are crying as if you now control your ship with wasd and shoot by pressing spacebar, along with "shift" giving you afterburner.

EVE is still EVE, its just not the same EVE that has dated inventory/graphics that so many are used to.

Just like the trailer states, "progress" is in numbers and CCP sparked an interest in viewers of said trailer, just because of the missile updates alone.

Not EVERYONE plays on the lowest settings/max performance so they can micro multiple alts. SOME people play this brutal game in hopes that one day they can sit with their corpmates in a station's bar, have a laugh and watch virtual exotic dancers.
Doc Severide
Doomheim
#46 - 2012-05-24 16:33:47 UTC
Maxx Kreetin wrote:
Lol I spent 600 bucks on my pc and I can run this game, and any other game maxed out. If you spend 3k on a pc you are an idiot, or you have so much money that you don't care, or you simply don't know anybetter..

Um, no I just spent 3K each on 2 machines, I am neither an idiot or don't know any better. I do have enough money though to build what I want which typically has high end items, Bleeding Edge Procs, Tri Video, etc. It makes me happy...
Leetha Layne
#47 - 2012-05-24 16:55:58 UTC
OP and their ilk should protest by not posting anymore.
Hanuman Li Tosh
Nullbear Protection Act of 2019
#48 - 2012-05-24 17:04:09 UTC
Jessica Sweetwater wrote:
So like many other's when i saw this Letter Of Apology I assumed foolishly CCP had finally understood that t...


Your thread represents the failure flawlessly.

<10% of players use the forums.

CCP shouldn't listen to either the CSM or the forum posters.

They should put a "vote" screen in the game in lieu of the advertisement screen when its time to vote.

Doing it any other way ensures a minimal input from the player base.
Radelix Cisko
JUMP DRIVE ACTIVE
#49 - 2012-05-24 17:06:43 UTC
So far I'm gathering from this thread:

Eve runs fine on a PC with a processor and RAM that was made post 2006 as long as the video card is up to task

The inventory was a pain till you figured out to use it. Im admitting it took me a good 5 minutes to figure it out. Its not perfect (and I know f*ck all about UI design) but I like the direction they are going.

A launcher is present. I, and many others I'm sure, don't notice it unless its patch time.

I joined EVE just after Incarna was released so I have a different opinion of the CQ than the bitter vets.

I'm sure there is more. I've only had 2 cups of coffee so I'm not fully aware yet.

Despite my posting prowess I really am terrible at this game
Morganta
The Greater Goon
#50 - 2012-05-24 17:07:39 UTC  |  Edited by: Morganta
Jessica Sweetwater wrote:
Aruken Marr wrote:
I wanted a launcher.


I didnt say the new launchers wernt good, the effects are overly gfx heavy, even for eve, not needed

CCP needs to stop making engines were it requires a super duper pc to run it effectivly


am I a fanboi?

I don't mind the launcher a bit
it's been error free and runs fine on a machine made in this century that is built and maintained by someone with a clue

ever wonder why the industry is dry humping the console market?
because they are sick of supporting your clumsily built low budget clone machines.

Not all parts play together properly, that's the difference between home builders and Alienware (for instance), they design machines that work (not that I'd ever pay their prices) and don't just throw together a bunch of FOTM parts or whatever is on sale at newegg this week
Tenchi Sal
White Knights of Equestria
#51 - 2012-05-24 17:10:01 UTC
Jessica Sweetwater wrote:


The New Inventory - No one likes it, the few who do, ccp fanbois - No one wants it, but u refuse to remove it



i like it. glad you speak for me. while your at it, go back to WoW. if you cant adapt to changes in a game, you shouldnt be playing mmos. i think WoW introduced pokemon now, might be a lot better for you.
Theon Togenada
Doomheim
#52 - 2012-05-24 17:19:51 UTC
Jessica Sweetwater wrote:

The New Inventory - No one likes it, the few who do, ccp fanbois - No one wants it, but u refuse to remove it
Missile Effects - Again, CCP, please remember, not all of us have 3k to spend on pcs
Local Bug - This goes to local/alliance/corp/public chats/friends chats - still havent fixed it, gj

I like it and know many people who do like it.
Missile effects? Really? I have a $100 video card in a DELL desktop and the game runs and looks fine.
Local bug... trivial.

Quote:
Now going back abit

Captains Quarters, walking in stations - NO ONE WANTED IT. But still u implemented it, i remeber the day we installed the patch, a 200 page long long *i turned it off* thread.

What is so bad about being able to walk around with your character? Who cares if you turned it off, gj?


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Sumtimes i wish i had the money to buy you out. So i could fire most fo your incompetent idiots and hire real devs who knew what they where doing instead of loosing track everytime a pair of **** walks past


Classy. Just admit that you will never be satisfied regardless of what CCP does or does not do - you'll STILL find something to complain about.
Heinrich Rotwang
Spectre Fleet Corporation
#53 - 2012-05-24 17:24:19 UTC
Why would anyone take advise from someone who can't even afford a decent computer? Maybe stop wasting your time on internet games and get a job?
Hans Momaki
State War Academy
Caldari State
#54 - 2012-05-24 17:42:07 UTC
Don't get me wrong. I like some of the features brought up. Including the missile animations and, to a certain degree, the new inventory, BUT:

CCP doesn't care about spaceship balancing. They had months and months to do this, but we only got more modules to play with, and some of them will make certain ships even more unbalanced.

CCP should care more about balancing, instead of creating fancy and good looking features no one asked for.

Anyway, I don't care, 3 accounts cancelled until CCP starts fixing real issues.
Nova Fox
Novafox Shipyards
#55 - 2012-05-24 17:43:58 UTC
I wanted a launcher, it allows me to quickly patch eve hassel free. I hope in the future it will be easy button to sisi as well. I hate it when sisi launches into tranquility or updates tranqility client into sisi build, annoys me to no end.

New Inventory will be like the new text a few months from now youll get so used to it youd be going wtf did I ever do without this?
Just like the new item window introduced a year back i think it was.

I am quite sure missile effects have and always had been optional. Also this has been the most screamed over graphical feature for YEARS, litterally YEARS. Guns always had thier gun models yet missiles magically spawned from center of the ship to fly into the other guy.

Dust 514's CPM 1 Iron Wolf Saber Eve mail me about Dust 514 issues.
Llewelyn
Doomheim
#56 - 2012-05-24 17:56:52 UTC
Jessica Sweetwater wrote:
*super launcher* which again NO ONE WANTED


Actually it's not half bad. It's pretty slick.

Jessica Sweetwater wrote:
The New Inventory - No one likes it, the few who do, ccp fanbois - No one wants it, but u refuse to remove it


Yay for sweeping statements! Many people are rather irked by it, a few are quitting over it, but still quite a large amount of people are just fine with it. Some things could be improved, of course, like looting wrecks (why do we need the whole thing when looting a specific wreck?) and POS management, but as a whole it's a decent start.

Jessica Sweetwater wrote:
Missile Effects - Again, CCP, please remember, not all of us have 3k to spend on pcs


I run a crappy 2010 laptop which runs the missile effects quite nicely, actually.

Jessica Sweetwater wrote:
Local Bug - This goes to local/alliance/corp/public chats/friends chats - still havent fixed it, gj


This one is pretty annoying, and I'm not entirely sure how it happened, seeing as CCP didn't change anything regarding chat windows in Inferno. I'm confident it will be fixed - this is the nature of software. For whatever reason, the moment you change any one thing, a new bug appears.

Jessica Sweetwater wrote:
Captains Quarters, walking in stations - NO ONE WANTED IT. But still u implemented it, i remeber the day we installed the patch, a 200 page long long *i turned it off* thread.


A good amount of people did want it, but not in the forced manner in which it was given to us back in the original release of Incarna. The rage was about the forced CQ, removal of hangar view, and the Fearless newsletter leak.
Llewelyn
Doomheim
#57 - 2012-05-24 17:57:19 UTC  |  Edited by: Llewelyn
Darn 5 quote limit... Part 2!

Jessica Sweetwater wrote:
You use the CSM - fat lot of good that is, ego players who get what they want done for there alliance and ignore everyone else.


Well they are politicians, and you expect e-politicians to act any different than real ones?

Jessica Sweetwater wrote:
Now moving backup to date - the amount of anit gank threads is astounding across three sections of these forums. What do u do, most of the empire player base is screaming for a removal of sucicde ganking - what do u do, why ignore them ofc.


Once again, sweeping statements. There are many counter-measures one can take against being suicide ganked (mining in a battleship, tanking that Hulk, keeping an eye on the surroundings). The people who are whining are the unfortunate few who were lulled into a false sense of security. It's good that suicide ganking is so rampant - people can now realize that nowhere in EVE is safe. And there's good money to be made if you know how to mine in dangerous circumstances.

Jessica Sweetwater wrote:
So when does this nicely scripted and make no mistake, scripted apology from hilmar come into effect?


What does he have to apologize for this time around? This isn't Incarna - nothing anti-EVE has happened in Inferno like it did in Incarna.


Hans Momaki wrote:
CCP doesn't care about spaceship balancing. They had months and months to do this, but we only got more modules to play with, and some of them will make certain ships even more unbalanced.


You did read the dev blog on Tiericide, right? And read the patch notes on the changes to the Merlin, Punisher, Tormentor, and Incursus, right? The ship-rebalancing is in progress, starting from the bottom up. Ideally CCP will be able to implement it without too many problems, and make previously shunned ships useful.
Montevius Williams
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#58 - 2012-05-24 17:59:34 UTC
Jessica Sweetwater wrote:
So like many other's when i saw this Letter Of Apology I assumed foolishly CCP had finally understood that there arragonce had reached monumental level's and the player base had quite clearly had enough. The letter was great, awsum, finally a change.

Lots of fun things promised in Inferno, problem is, most of them are CRAP, Not to mention you had a months of testing this and still like EVERY patch, you screwed it up amazingly and even at one broke the the new

*super launcher* which again NO ONE WANTED

The New Inventory - No one likes it, the few who do, ccp fanbois - No one wants it, but u refuse to remove it
Missile Effects - Again, CCP, please remember, not all of us have 3k to spend on pcs
Local Bug - This goes to local/alliance/corp/public chats/friends chats - still havent fixed it, gj

Now going back abit

Captains Quarters, walking in stations - NO ONE WANTED IT. But still u implemented it, i remeber the day we installed the patch, a 200 page long long *i turned it off* thread.

You use the CSM - fat lot of good that is, ego players who get what they want done for there alliance and ignore everyone else.

Now moving backup to date - the amount of anit gank threads is astounding across three sections of these forums. What do u do, most of the empire player base is screaming for a removal of sucicde ganking - what do u do, why ignore them ofc.

So when does this nicely scripted and make no mistake, scripted apology from hilmar come into effect?

Sumtimes i wish i had the money to buy you out. So i could fire most fo your incompetent idiots and hire real devs who knew what they where doing instead of loosing track everytime a pair of **** walks past



I wanted to the super laucher. This makes EVE come to standard with the rest of the industry instead of being stuck in 2005.
I like the new Inventory. Can it use work? Yes, but I like it better than what we had before.
Missile effects. Really? You dont want shiney new graphics? I do, and based on Fanfest feedback, most people do. Dont punish me just becasue you have a piece of crap computer from 2004.
CQ/WIS. Again, I wanted this. The implementation was crap. The idea is great. If EVE wants to be the ultimate Sci fi simulator, we need avatars, and we need to interact with other avatars.
We dont need to remove suicide ganking. Its part of the EVE ethos. Removing insurance was a good idea tho.

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Victor Sane
A-1 Industrial and Salvage
#59 - 2012-05-24 18:43:27 UTC
if you didnt want the super launcher why dont you just opt it off like any normal person imo if thats one of the things that frustrates you.
Atleast you got that option to turn it of and run normally like the old days.
Bootleg Jack
ACME Mineral and Gas
#60 - 2012-05-24 19:07:48 UTC
Booo fking wooo another cry baby post...

WAAAAAAAAA Ima Special Snowflake and CCP won't listen to me WAAAAAA

I'm an American, English is my second language...