Player Features and Ideas Discussion

I did sit with other 0.0 players, whom also have been playing since 03-04, and talked about this before I posted it.

Some of the comments on this thread seem to think I want to mine moons. This was not the case; I want to have more loss high sec wars. Having some isk out in the field that can be destroyed was my approach. Actually being able to set up some kind or risk on the mission runner industrialist part, would cause more real PVP in high sec.
So they way it is now, if you war dec a corp, they could all just move systems or not log on. These actions would with this idea in palce make consequences for them moving or not logging on. The rolling sec status with NPC.s must be maintained. If they don’t keep the NPC standing the tower will be off lined. You then get to blow up the towers.

It’s a wonderful idea. Why are so many of you so worried about economy, it will all be fine. Scan them down, war dec them blow up their towers. More war is always good!!!

You don't deserve the same rewards because you don't face the same risk.

If you lived in a space where every neutral in local can shoot at you without getting concorded then you are allowed to complain about wanting more rewards.

I can see putting moon goo in W-space but not highsec ever.



Do you know why some resources aren't worth harvesting in lowsec, wormholes, or nullsec? Because for every one person trying to dodge hostiles long enough to pick some resources up in a hauler or mining barge, there are hundreds of alts, bots, and multiboxers doing the same thing risk free in highsec.

Highsec moon mining, or ring mining if CCP goes through with that, would make nullsec moon / ring mining irreverent.

Take PI for example. Think of what it takes to smuggle materials in and out of low / null in a defenseless hauler. You'd need it to be rewarding enough to justify that risk. But the price for PI products aren't based on the handful of people doing it in lowsec or nullsec. It's based on the thousands of people idly harvesting away in highsec.

Speaking of which...
https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=1309083#post1309083

as ussuall null sec guys have a ram rod so far up there ass they cant move for it ... i know ..ive been there

I have to say, the discussion is kind of pointless as CCP is moving towards making moon minerals be harvestable by ships, instead of towers. This will be done to stop the silly POS spam and stop the almost effortless and absurd enrichment of the large 0.0 alliances (read a select few in the leadership).

Mining in ships will put the risk/reward back into balance and make it an active profession even smaller squads can disturb!

At that point, the real question is if high sec moons have the right goo to make the risk poor mining there competitive with low sec, let alone 0.0. It could very well be so that mining in high sec is perfectly reasonable to allow, just like with ores, without upsetting things like competition in high end moon goo!

As for the discussion about high sec vs 0.0, it's hilarious and stupid. The real danger is and always has been in low sec, but 0.0 people always think they are the ****, it is funny in an unreal way!

Its funny to hear people talk so strong about economy this or that, without even understanding basically anything about it. But you are in good company as 99% of the world population does not have a clue and are just simple kids when it comes to this matter.

All that changing supply can do is change the prices, the economy will run just as well on a new price equilibrium! And when there are shortages in something, prices for it increase to the point new risks become viable and profitable to addresses the shortage!

Stop using economy as an excuse to further ones agenda, we got enough stupid politicians in real life that do that, with nothing but ill effects.

How about moon mining in high sec spac *done by NPCs*
You'd have a fixed output of high sec moon goo, and either:
1) The NPCs sell it at 5-10% above average market value

2) The NPCs periodically release batches of moon goo that go up for auction

*It creates an ISK sink
*Null sec is no longer the only source of Moon goo, but it is the only place players can profit from production of moon goo

Lets say the High sec moons only produce 25% of their null sec counterparts (Lore: suppose the NPCs keep the other 75% of the production to support the empire faction navies)

highsec need less features, not more. BTW move L4 to lowsec.

"Hey guys I know all the best sources of player income are already in highsec, lets put more sources of income in highsec because f*ck proportional risk and reward"

Confirming there is 0 risk in null sec.

You should come join us.