Intergalactic Summit

Ssakaa, I know this is a shot in the dark, but might the Murientor Tribe possibly have use for some Taloses? Only I've got a bunch of these things lying around in a place where there's not a great demand for them, and it'd be good to know they were being purchased by a worthy cause.

I sent your alliance diplomat an email. Would you do me the favour of giving him the heads-up about this?

A pleasure.

Please don't get him talking about beards during your discourse -he's relentless on that subject. You'll be grateful for this advice, Andreus.

Mum's the word and don't tell a soul.

I feel absolutely uncomfortable reading 'nefantar' and that tribe -for whom we all rise to honour (in both word and deed) when a representative arrives through an open doorway -together in one single sentence or paragraph, but I respect your viewpoint even as I disagree with it. Seems to me to share at its root a sentiment shared by a Republican manifesto, however, which some Matar may or may not subscribe to however valid it is perceived to be.

And that's the great dilemma of our people, isn't it? -absolute free choice for the free -unyielding coercion and damnation for the enslaved. You and I are fortunate even though we might beg to differ.

Alas, Dilaro, in the great Ani constellation, there's a populist chant: "Six Kin, One Nation". No nefantar allowed, in other words. You can understand this sentiment, all things considered, looking over their history.

Anyway, let others pitch in with your observations with a view to a debate -perhaps a new topic that you might like to open up for further commentary?

Considering my own past messages, you should realize I speak to anyone. True I can't make anyone hear, let alone listen, but that doesn't mean I'll stop speaking. The fact of the matter is that I'm speaking, rather than yelling, questioning rather than insulting, and trying to understand rather than dismissing, and I believe that small effort is worth my time.

That said, I don't seem to be getting a clearer response here so I'll take my inquiries to a more appropriate venue.

You have my best wishes then, considering how it turned out previously.

Sheer poetry.



This goes in circles.

The Republic can be so short sighted sometimes. Either that or grossly naive regarding nefantar, ammatar, call them what you will, two flavours of a treacherous hot-pot of diabolical malfeasance. A now deeply inculcated habit of evangelising Imperial indoctrination here, a spot of simmering revenge there and oh how delightful! a Republic-sanctioned Imperial Armaments safe haven over yonder and we're potentially at a position of soaking up some nefantar trouble. Again.

Let Sveipar take the malcontents back in if they must (and at their peril) as per Republican idealist nonsense, let Ortner take them back in, even. Let them fight among themsleves there, if that's the way the want it. But the unique, the great Ani constellation -never again. Let's not add insult to injury, emm?

Honestly, either Ani's autonomy or independence (I believe the first manifesto of the two is currently preferred) can't come quickly enough as is, overwhelmingly, the public's will there as the Tribal Assembly understands their stance in these past years.

Either way, finally, it is to be hoped, their destiny will be in their own hands. Good Matar, honest Matar of the six major and countless minor tribes may at that time may write their own constitution to reflect their strong nationalist roots and be forever shot of the nefantar 'legacy' once and for all.

Ssakaa, the alliance that your corporation is a part of is called Defiant Legacy.

The Defiants, and their leader Karishal Muritor were great humanists. Your words would be poison to them. You betray their legacy; the Tribal Republic, standing strong and unified against the Amarrian enslaver, unafraid to do what is necessary to secure the freedom of the enslaved Minmatar. The Defiants were lost in that final withdrawal from Amarr space, that very same in which the subterfuge of the loyal Nefantar was revealed. Maleatu Shakor too is a Defiant, yet you call him an unsighted fool, alongside the Elders.

Are you sure you are in the right place?

Now would be good time for the 'spirit of our people' and the Republic government to make another statement addressing such things as:
why we need to have Amarrian corporations in our midst;
why the trading of slaves is permitted;
why Amarrian corporations are transporting and using slaves in our space;
why the people of Ani had to bear the yoke for this plan of theirs;
and why people might now be considered unpatriotic if they disagree.

Until they do, the people of Ani and many others will continue to feel marginalised. You say we have turned our backs on the Elders. I think it is plain to see it is the other way around. Many people do not trust the current government and are disillusioned with the Elders' apparent ineffectiveness.

Whilst atrocities still go unanswered-for; whilst slaves are still used and traded in Matari space with our government's blessing; whilst our leadership does nothing to reclaim what was taken from us there is bound to be bitterness, contention, and a rebel element. If the government and the Elders cannot protect our people then luckily there are many loyal capsuleers who will.

Right... i see your confusion. It's ok.

you confuse the elders for the republic. Do you also confuse the fleets that attacked amarr and repatriated two clans for republic ones? The fleets that brazenly contained Thukker tribe members?

The governement of the republic, and the elders are two distinct and separate entities. The elders are the true leaders of the clans. from a time before amarrian opression. They are who I follow, not Midular's failed republic, or the current attempt to salvage it.

It is they who risked everything to save the starkmanir and nefantar from amarrian genocide and for that all true Matari should be thankful.

as for your questions.

We don't need amarrian corporations in matari space, but they are there, and there is little we can do about it,

The trading of slaves is illegal within Republic space, it is not within the power of the Matari to change amarrian law, they have to do that themselves, the best we can do is make slave holding and slave trading more trouble than it is worth

Bring verifiable evidence of the actual use of and transport of slaves, within the republic borders, to the eyes of the republic navy and CONCORD, and something may be done about it. As of yet only insubstantiated claims and statements like 'they are amarrian so the must have slaves' have been made.

What yoke? The Nefantar agreed to the plan, they protected the starkmanir at great cost, and those who returned have been accepted back by our elders. if you speak of the mandated war that is raging across the stars at this time, CONCORD are to blame for the placement of those sanctioned war zones, after liason with both the republic and amarr.

as for being considered 'unpatriotic'... those were not my exact words, but consider that you are willfully going directly against the wishes of the elders by continuing to villify the Nefantar.

As i have said before, The Ammatar are our enemies, they chose to remain behind as part of the Amarrian empire. The Nefantar are one of the seven tribes of Matar. They are of Pator, like the rest of us. yet you would treat them as lesser beings due to their genetic heiratage? That is pure unadulterated hipocrisy... it is, in fact, almost an Amarrian mindset.

We are a people of innumerable families and tribes, but only seven clans. If Ssakaa has her way, and the Matari people 'are shot of' the Nefantar, we will have lost a part of our racial heriatage and will never again be one people.

I can but hope that you can put aside bigotry and hatred for long enough to see the truth. as to rid yourselves of the Nefantar, you would have to kill one of our own elders, and commit genocide against an entire clan of your own people.