Intergalactic Summit

Rodj, you mistake reanimating for dying.

capsuleers don't die.. at least not when their capsules do. we just change places with some leftover biomass....

now.. dying.. that's irreversible.. permanent... you know.. real.
i believe you would call it ascending to heaven.

so. as i mentioned.. get on with it. the cluster could do with less of you.

ah... that feels better.. simply saying that to one of the more orthodox slaver types is a cathartic experience.

now, where did i leave my firetail.

-Dilaro

Capsuleers committing crimes?

Who would've thought.

Though these allegations are baseless, our alliance would likely not consider them to be crimes anyway.

The welfare of those that wish to enslave are people are not our concern.

This is nonsense.

The 24th Crusaders are fighting to keep us from freeing our kin, which means they're fighting to keep them enslaved. It also means they're fighting to enslave yet another unborn generation of Matari.

I care little for whatever self-deceptions these pilots use to assuage their guilt. Their motives mean little compared to their actions.

They claim to be solely defending their "home". Which is the right of any people, save those that build their homes upon the backs and misery of others.

I would say that I told people so when this alliance formed several months ago, but that would sound arrogant.

However, I would like to point a minor detail in your statement : Holders are not the only legal group that can hold slaves in the Empire. It is a little more complicated than that. Becoming a slave owner requires a lot of standing with the proper authorities (mostly, the clergy and the Amarr Civil Service), that will give in return an official authorization for the new slave owner to start keeping slaves. It is not something that is handled lightly, even if most Holders are Holders precisely because of they were given the right to hold slaves in the past of their dynasties, and that authorization can actually be handled to almost anyone judged worthy of it. That way, it is possible to find commoners owning slaves, and also, the navy under imperial mandate. In the Mandate even, there are no proper Holders, but slave owners that never got to profit from the creation of that title in their legal system.

There is also another whole different group of slave owners that are the slavers. This is another kind of mandate that is closer to a lettre de marque allowing to actually enslave people. Usual slave owners like Holders are not allowed to do that. Only slavers are allowed. The laws regulating their functions are legion and they are bound by imperial and CONCORD law not to raid outside of the Amarr Empire, but also, they do not have the divine mandate to enlight and guide their slaves. This is why they are sold to proper Holders for that purpose. This is a way to keep two enormous powers separate.



This sounds very simplistic and candide.



Yes, racial generalization, pots and kettles again.

You cannot begin to dictate the motives of every pilot in the 24IC and as I've stated already, not everyone in the 24IC is fighting to enslave anyone. I find it highly ironic, hypocritical even, that you would justify your own prejudice by clinging to your own self-deceptions.

Farel, thank you for the...clarification on slave ownership in the Empire, I was rather naive to believe it was anything as simple as what I originally stated. It does, however, reaffirm that not everyone in the Empire is a slave-holder nor interested in doing so.

And yet you would simply create more misery, fighting a war in an area of space that has little to no effect on the overall Empires slave trade.

Yet, you would destroy, hunt and murder the countless lives in the name of your republic, more lives than you are ever likely to save.

I make no bones about that war, I fought it to kill Minmatar.
I fought it to protect an Empire that was brutally invaded and subject to a war we didn't want.
I fought to protect my family and home.

Whatever misguided goals you give yourself should not be covered in a thin veil of self righteousness.

If you want to free your enslaved bretheren an exchange might be arranged, your head for theirs.

Yes, it is true that the Amarrians have wrought great evil upon your people. It is true that many inhumanities and wicked acts are committed still against your people. Yet it is also true that not all Amarrians are guilty of these sins, not every being born into the Empire is pursuing more evil against your people.

Consider this when you are destroying livelihoods and tearing apart families.

Yes, it is true that your people struggle daily both under the heels of slavery but also under the weight of deprivation. It is true that many children of Matar desire freedom and identity with their people. Yet it is also true that money and resources being spent on a continued advancement effort are money and resources that could be directed toward infrastructure and putting food in the mouths of babes. It is also true that not every Matari in the Empire is mistreated and seeking freedom.

Consider these things when you continue to bring hardship to your people by neglecting stability and infrastructure, focusing your efforts on fueling the flames of the war rather than providing a future for your children.

Have wrongs been committed against your people? Absolutely. Are wrongs continuing to be committed against your people? Absolutely. Does this mean you forsake the people you have in order to seek revenge or liberation for those you don't? Absolutely not.

You claim your only defense is a continued advance and that no quarter shall be shown, but there are other options available to you. Protect that which you already have, provide for those within your communities and develop a future for your children and their children first. Do not let yourselves be consumed by hatred and anger, you will become the very monsters you claim to be fighting against.

I say this not to condemn you, but in hopes that your struggle will be won with wisdom and integrity and that the children of Matar will see a brighter, stronger and more secure future because of your actions today.

Sigh.

And so the process of failing to see the forest for the trees continues....