EVE General Discussion

Hey guys,
In the pre-inferno days, I sometimes had to open several different windows for inventory stuff, for in-station stuff alone:
- Cargo bay
- Item hangar
- Ship hangar
- Cargo bay of other ship
- Corp hangar
- Secure cans in item hangar
- Secure cans in cargo
- Ship maintenance bay
- Drone bay

It was hell. At least for me.

And guess what? Now I see all the inventories I need, in one little list, in a single window that takes up less space than all of the above combined, as well as making it cleaner, without having to overlap or combine several of those windows. No longer do I have to search for stuff (it was like inventory within inventory within inventory.), do a few gazillion clicks to open new windows. No, I got them all in a single window now.
And if I still need some kind of a separate window, I can shift+click and open a separate window. Not that I had to use it as of yet.
Not to mention I can see the approximate market value of said stuff in the inventory, as well as the metric tons. And this is adjusted to what items I have selected. VERY useful.

This new system is intuitive and works just like the old system. Just drag and drop stuff, but now you only need 1 window to rule them all.
Personally, I think this was a much needed usability update.


BUT!!


I do think that some "forced changes" are bad.
We have seen this happen to Captain's Quarters, and we were given the ability to go back to the old hangar view with ship spinning (and a nice ship spin counter). Nobody complained since then.
I think this works a bit the same. The old inventory we used is about 9 years old now. A lot of players have gotten used to the "old way" and just refuse to change because they already got used to the old system and think it's fine that way.
So I'd suggest, instead of forcing this kind of change on players, allow for players to choose between separate settings; customise their way of inventory usage to their personal preferences.

For example, you could have these different settings:
- old way > nothing changes. You have to manually search for each window, open it, then drag and drop from one window to the other if you want to move stuff.
- semi-old way > just the inventory list without the attached window. When clicking one of the list items, a new window opens. You *can* drag and drop from an opened window to a list item in the inventory to move items there.
- new way > like it is now: inventory list + attached window. When clicking one of the list items, its inventory will be displayed in the attached window. When shift-clicking one of the list items, its inventory will be displayed in a separate window.


I think if this is done, *every* player will be happy about the new inventory system.

I hope this feedback is appreciated :)

they can't do this, duh, they have to fix the new one, it will take them over 6 months. Bye

I think it seems good so far and better than previous but, can't we just get the ability to make our own UI one day?

As I and many others have pointed out in the feedback thread;

The performance of inventory after the patch is godaweful. Incredible lag, espesially when you work with laaaarge
volumes.
As its now, for trade tycoons (i have well over 1000 orders), it becomes unbearable to even play this game.
Each trade and opening of windows take rather significant amount of time more than in the past, and it
really adds up rather fast, to the point of being aggrevating.

When a game gives you that feeling, then you will simply log off and play something else, which is prolly
not what CCP wants.

Basically the most sensible post I've seen so far.

The new inventory system has many many advantages over the old one. It isn't perfect, but it's a better way. It really is very very easy to use in most cases, it is simply different to the old system.

The biggest flaw with the old system was that you needed windows for everything to be open. So forever you closed windows and opened new ones, dragging items between. Now there is simply a unified list and you just select the items and drag them across, without having to have two or more windows open at the same time. I keep reading that people are shift clicking to have multiple windows open (you can right click to do this btw no need for shift) which is fine....but I hope they realise that you don't actually require to open two or more windows in the majority of cases. You just use the list on the left.

There are issues with POS and other areas, generally due to the ability to name containers so in the list they can be easy to sort through, but that will not be difficult to solve at all.

All in all, it's pretty streamlined and I honestly think it is superior to the old system. The old system is only easier because you are used to it atm.

It takes a while to realise Clipless pedals are better.

Most of the complaints right now are about the way it acts when you aren't docked. Once I figure out how to filter out crap metal I won't care about that part myself.

One thing that's really annoyed me with this patch is this new idea of showing the full station name when you autolink it in chat despite only using the system name for the link text. We had a useful chat channel that corp members could use for handy system/station links in the MOTD, up until yesterday it was nice and neat, after the expansion it's an unreadable mess.

All i have to say.. FIX FONT COLOR!... no idea why it have to have a darker font than everything else...

other than that, its just a question about getting used to it.

I don't want them working like they used to. New inventory works perfectly fine. If I want multiple windows I just shift click and get another window its not feckin rocket science.

Why is it that nearly all forum warriors in EVE oppose change?

Having lived through the early years in EVE this still makes my life so much easier now. The filters make life easy if you looking for certain items in stead of just a mass of icons or having of remember the damn module name to search for it.

You know you don't even have to press shift either?