Ships & Modules

Of course, you are right. But you also won't survive 4 Battlecruisers in a commonly fitted Mael either, no matter if active or passive tanked. By the way, while they spend time breaking your tank, you will still dish out 800+dps, taking eventually down 1 or 2 of them, making them effectively unable to break the tank you are running.

Also, I did never say neuts won't have any effect on you, they simply won't affect your tank.



Well, then again, why would any sane person prefer 10 active tanked Maelstroms over 10 passive ones. I was talking solo/small gang pvp (maybe up to 3-4 people). Of course, with a fleet of a sufficient size, being able to engage larger numbers, you would go for a buffer fit, maybe bringing some logi. It's always been like that an I'm not trying to say anything else, but I was refering to that active fit specifically. Then again, you're pretty much dead with any ship that's active tanking if you run into 10 Maelstroms, no matter if you fit additional buffer or not (all resist/active is always to prefer over active+buffer for any kind of PVP ranging from 1-3 people).


No, the problem is that you will need a bare MINIMUM of 3 overheating BCs to break that tank. Without any of them dying to your 800+ dps, or burning out their modules. That was something that has been exclusively reserved for multi-billion Battleships before. This has nothing to do with EFT warrioring. If only one of that 3 or 4 battlecruisers die, they have virtually no chance of getting past your tank.

Active tanked maelstrom with prop mod. Props to you, brosef.

As for the 4 BCs dealing 2k dps. It's not guaranteed that said BCs will deal that much even at optimal.

+1. If you think there's a problem, find a way to make thought-provoking argument, not a capslock shitstain on S&M.

its not unreasonable at all to expect 2k point of sale DPS from 4 close-fit turret BCs.

Yes, you are one of those minmatards.

Even if you had that APPLIED +2K dps on field you wouldn't break this tank.

You need two Canes to break a dual rep Myrm, and even that takes an eternity. The time unit which these modules use is not second.

Saying "My nanocane does 700dps, EFT says so" is no less tarded than saying:
"My Mael has a cap stable 5k dps tank, EFT says so"
....or saying:
"the mael has 800 dps and will kill dem nanocanes before they can do any real damage."
...or:
"Screw reload times, this new module will let me tank 2k dps forever and ever and ever, amen."

Because in a real fight:
-The Canes will be shooting the maels lowest resist (EM/thermal), so he wont have the averaged omni tank to match the EFT numbers.
-The 3-4 canes (with 2 medium neuts a pop) will neut the mael down to the point where he cant point/web (might even turn off his invuln)
-Everyone will be moving so no one will be doing max dps
-Fat-ass(tm) battleship guns track so damn well at close range when your webs are neuted off, that they can do full dps and blap nanocanes at point blank range, amirite?
-when the dual rep mael is reloading both boosters, and the 60 second reload time will have to overlap at some point, the zero buffer mael dies.

Next time, check your facts before calling people tards. Comparing EFT tank numbers is just as tarded as comparing EFT dps numbers. Neither are going to be 100% accurate.

Its a neat proof of concept, but anyone that thinks this module is OP needs to get their head out of their ass.

No, you said that 3 or 4 canes do 2K dps.

I think its just not fair that there is no comparable armor mod.
Sure, you stick a cap booster on, and use it to run the armor rep, but you could always do that with a shield tank (as is apparently common with the nightmare), the point is you've used up an extra slot.
While it may be more versatile (you can also use the cap to power hardeners and such, not just the armor rep), it also has some vulnerabilities to negate that (if your cap boost cycle isn't synced with your armor rep cycle, the cap you just boosted can get neuted out again before the armor rep starts its next cycle)

the adaptive armor hardener just doesn't make up for it (and I think its crap the way its resistance shifts, rather than being omni like the "adaptive" invuln fields)

@OP

There's only one way to settle this.

In the words of the great Oscar Wilde: "FIGHT!"

You take your *super*mael against 4 canes, and tell us how long you last. In fact, if you want, I know a couple of alliances who would be happy to show you the error of your ways.

Only true warrior is the EVE tried and tested warrior.

Also, as for the "it's cheaper" argument, these modules haven't been in game for much more than a day, their prices are in no way set and I wouldn't be surprised at all if they didn't rise faster than a taranis could take out your pod.

or you just fit three.