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CSM - Comment Here About The Window
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Fabulousli Obvious
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#1 - 2012-05-22 19:59:31 UTC  |  Edited by: Fabulousli Obvious
You said during the EVERadio show this weekend that this feature will be both fantastic and great.

Can you please elaborate further.

update: I'll be checking in to see your responses.

I am NOT YOUNG ENOUGH to know EVERYTHING.  ~~ Oscar Wilde, writer, d. November 30, 1900
Chunicha
Imperial Academy
Amarr Empire
#2 - 2012-05-22 20:01:32 UTC
The new inventory window is fantastic and great. Once people get used to it and get over the fact it's different, they'll realize this.
Fabulousli Obvious
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#3 - 2012-05-22 20:02:44 UTC
Chunicha wrote:
The new inventory window is fantastic and great. Once people get used to it and get over the fact it's different, they'll realize this.


I know personally that you don't really believe that. Now....back under your Bridge.

I am NOT YOUNG ENOUGH to know EVERYTHING.  ~~ Oscar Wilde, writer, d. November 30, 1900
Morganta
The Greater Goon
#4 - 2012-05-22 20:09:10 UTC
Chunicha wrote:
The new inventory window is fantastic and great. Once people get used to it and get over the fact it's different, they'll realize this.


but we already got used to the old semi-broken system
why did we need a new semi-broken system?
Senarian Tyme
Serenity Rising LLC
Controlled Chaos
#5 - 2012-05-22 20:09:42 UTC
Chunicha wrote:
The new inventory window is fantastic and great. Once people get used to it and get over the fact it's different, they'll realize this.



How is increasing the time it takes to do anything great and fantastic?

Does it look shiny and pretty? Yes, But it takes 100% more effort at a bare minimum (by counting clicks) to do ANYTHING with it, and thats assumign the most simple and basic of tasks. If you want a more complicated task,you now start invoking multiple key commands.... to be able to do what was able to be accomplished in just as many clicks before.

Change can be good, in fact it can be very good at times.

But Change Is Not The Same Thing As Improvement.

Newer isn't always better, the two things are often related, but in cases like this, clearly not the same thing.

What new capability was gained by this mess? It had better be great if it imposed a 100%+ workload on anything I have to do for everything else with it.

I would love to see how CCP did their use case testing on this.
Fabulousli Obvious
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#6 - 2012-05-22 20:12:54 UTC
I would love to hear just WHY Two Step and Seleene thought this was great. They didn't say why in their interviews Saturday.

Just "It's great".

Really.

Stunningly.

Listen for yourselves.

I am NOT YOUNG ENOUGH to know EVERYTHING.  ~~ Oscar Wilde, writer, d. November 30, 1900
HVAC Repairman
Hedion University
Amarr Empire
#7 - 2012-05-22 20:13:49 UTC
the new eve window is fantastic and great

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MotherMoon
Tribal Liberation Force
Minmatar Republic
#8 - 2012-05-22 20:14:39 UTC
I've counted everyone complaining in the front page. 27 posters. You're all just reposting the same things and then reposting in your own thread to make it look bigger by spamming comments. And making more threads that don't need to be made.

This doesn't need it's own thread, it won't get it more attention.

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Fabulousli Obvious
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#9 - 2012-05-22 20:17:53 UTC
MotherMoon wrote:
I've counted everyone complaining in the front page. 27 posters. You're all just reposting the same things and then reposting in your own thread to make it look bigger by spamming comments. And making more threads that don't need to be made.

This doesn't need it's own thread, it won't get it more attention.



This one is not for commenting despite the postings. This is for the CSM to pipe up in general discission for once.

And I mean once.

I am NOT YOUNG ENOUGH to know EVERYTHING.  ~~ Oscar Wilde, writer, d. November 30, 1900
Alavaria Fera
GoonWaffe
#10 - 2012-05-22 20:18:53 UTC
This is about the CSM and their rave reviews of the inventory system.

Does it belong in Jita park or here? Generally, discussion seems to be about the inventory system.

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Fabulousli Obvious
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#11 - 2012-05-22 20:19:48 UTC  |  Edited by: Fabulousli Obvious
Alavaria Fera wrote:
This is about the CSM and their rave reviews of the inventory system.

Does it belong in Jita park or here? Generally, discussion seems to be about the inventory system.



Youy makee no sensee.

If they are over in Jita Park right now, can you send them over here ?

I am NOT YOUNG ENOUGH to know EVERYTHING.  ~~ Oscar Wilde, writer, d. November 30, 1900
Chunicha
Imperial Academy
Amarr Empire
#12 - 2012-05-22 20:22:28 UTC
Fabulousli Obvious wrote:
Chunicha wrote:
The new inventory window is fantastic and great. Once people get used to it and get over the fact it's different, they'll realize this.


I know personally that you don't really believe that. Now....back under your Bridge.


Nope I do genuinely believe it, sorry but you just need to accept that you're in the (very vocal) minority on this one. The new system is compact, simple (drag and drop), far more versatile with its filters and all around makes inventory management easier. Stop whining and try using it for a while and you'll realize I'm right.
Ranger 1
Ranger Corp
Vae. Victis.
#13 - 2012-05-22 20:24:59 UTC  |  Edited by: Ranger 1
As has been already pointed out.

The "issues" most people are waxing emotional about are due to not understanding they can simply drag to the tree to move items, or shift click to open seperate windows to monitor contents. They believe the tree only exists to open one window at a time in the main view, which is misunderstanding the main functionality of the tree.

The ability to open different hanger views from the tree is secondary, it's main function is to drag items to the tree so you don't have to drag items all the way across your screen... and unless you want to monitor those windows you don't need to even have them open.

To reiterate. The actual issues are...

1: Windows close and/or reposition upon a session change.

2: Seperate windows to not update their contents automatically like the main window does. The items actually can be dragged from window to window as you always could, but currently the view does not update automatcially as it does when dragging to the tree or main window.

3: It would be helpful to be able to custom filter what is shown in the tree easily.

Minor issues that have been acknowledged as needing a fix in the very near future.

View the latest EVE Online developments and other game related news and gameplay by visiting Ranger 1 Presents: Virtual Realms.
Fabulousli Obvious
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#14 - 2012-05-22 20:26:18 UTC
Chunicha wrote:



Nope I do genuinely believe it, sorry but you just need to accept that you're in the (very vocal) minority on this one



OK....you've made enough of a clown and a** of yourself. They are all laughing.

Now, the Spirit of Chris Tucker As Ruby Rhod says "zzzzzzz..zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz......zzzzzzzzzz...zzzzz....zzz.....z" with you.

I am NOT YOUNG ENOUGH to know EVERYTHING.  ~~ Oscar Wilde, writer, d. November 30, 1900
Di Mulle
#15 - 2012-05-22 20:28:03 UTC
MotherMoon wrote:
I've counted everyone complaining in the front page. 27 posters.


You probably forgot to tell you probably accounting yourself for a hundred ... ? Just reminding.
<<Insert some waste of screen space here>>
Fabulousli Obvious
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#16 - 2012-05-22 20:28:20 UTC
Ranger 1 wrote:
As has been already pointed out.

The "issues" most people are waxing emotional about are due to not understanding they can simply drag to the tree to move items, or shift click to open seperate windows to monitor contents. They believe the tree only exists to open one window at a time in the main view, which is misunderstanding the main functionality of the tree.

The ability to open different hanger views from the tree is secondary, it's main function is to drag items to the tree so you don't have to drag items all the way across your screen... and unless you want to monitor those windows you don't need to even have them open.

To reiterate. The actual issues are...

1: Windows close and/or reposition upon a session change.

2: Seperate windows to not update their contents automatically like the main window does. The items actually can be dragged from window to window as you always could, but currently the view does not update automatcially as it does when dragging to the tree or main window.

3: It would be helpful to be able to custom filter what is shown in the tree easily.

Minor issues that have been acknowledged as needing a fix in the very near future.



Are you on the CSM ?

I am NOT YOUNG ENOUGH to know EVERYTHING.  ~~ Oscar Wilde, writer, d. November 30, 1900
Chunicha
Imperial Academy
Amarr Empire
#17 - 2012-05-22 20:30:50 UTC
Fabulousli Obvious wrote:



OK....you've made enough of a clown and a** of yourself. They are all laughing.

Now, the Spirit of Chris Tucker As Ruby Rhod says "zzzzzzz..zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz......zzzzzzzzzz...zzzzz....zzz.....z" with you.


Way to kick it up on the maturity scale, great for winning an argument. It only makes sense that you couldn't counter my points, seeing as how everything you've posted in this thread has been mindless whining anyways.
Ranger 1
Ranger Corp
Vae. Victis.
#18 - 2012-05-22 20:31:37 UTC  |  Edited by: Ranger 1
Fabulousli Obvious wrote:
Ranger 1 wrote:
As has been already pointed out.

The "issues" most people are waxing emotional about are due to not understanding they can simply drag to the tree to move items, or shift click to open seperate windows to monitor contents. They believe the tree only exists to open one window at a time in the main view, which is misunderstanding the main functionality of the tree.

The ability to open different hanger views from the tree is secondary, it's main function is to drag items to the tree so you don't have to drag items all the way across your screen... and unless you want to monitor those windows you don't need to even have them open.

To reiterate. The actual issues are...

1: Windows close and/or reposition upon a session change.

2: Seperate windows to not update their contents automatically like the main window does. The items actually can be dragged from window to window as you always could, but currently the view does not update automatcially as it does when dragging to the tree or main window.

3: It would be helpful to be able to custom filter what is shown in the tree easily.

Minor issues that have been acknowledged as needing a fix in the very near future.



Are you on the CSM ?


Meerly a bringer of (apparently) inconvenient truth.

My apologies if I rained on your parade.

View the latest EVE Online developments and other game related news and gameplay by visiting Ranger 1 Presents: Virtual Realms.
Fabulousli Obvious
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#19 - 2012-05-22 20:33:48 UTC
Chunicha wrote:
Fabulousli Obvious wrote:



OK....you've made enough of a clown and a** of yourself. They are all laughing.

Now, the Spirit of Chris Tucker As Ruby Rhod says "zzzzzzz..zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz......zzzzzzzzzz...zzzzz....zzz.....z" with you.


Way to kick it up on the maturity scale, great for winning an argument. It only makes sense that you couldn't counter my points, seeing as how everything you've posted in this thread has been mindless whining anyways.



No one is whining but yourself. And unironically at that.

waiting on the CSM (tap, tap, tap, tap,tap,tap,tap)

I am NOT YOUNG ENOUGH to know EVERYTHING.  ~~ Oscar Wilde, writer, d. November 30, 1900
Fabulousli Obvious
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#20 - 2012-05-22 20:34:55 UTC
Ranger 1 wrote:

Meerly a bringer of (apparently) inconvenient truth.

My apologies if I rained on your parade.



I know. I'd just like us all to hear from them though.

I am NOT YOUNG ENOUGH to know EVERYTHING.  ~~ Oscar Wilde, writer, d. November 30, 1900
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