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Alavaria Fera
GoonWaffe
#21 - 2012-05-21 19:28:33 UTC
Karn Dulake wrote:
If you nerfed tech just because a group of people took the inituative then this would no longer be a sandbox.

Too bad, cause' it's gonna be nerfed. Heh.

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Tinnin Sylph
Perkone
Caldari State
#22 - 2012-05-21 19:29:01 UTC
JitaPriceChecker2 wrote:
Tinnin Sylph wrote:

What have you done while we did all that? Sat in a highsec station .01 isking and complaining that other players who do more than you oddly seem to end up getting more than you.


Character name does not imply what he is actually doing in game.

Another goon that fails at basic logic.

I can be named PlayingFromCCPsOffice it doesnt mean it is actually happening , you got that ?


Quite. Please tell us then what exactly you do in game? I do hope it's something that justifies you calling for the hard work of thousands of players to be wiped out just because you're mad that someone else has all the cool toys.

Heh.
Lin-Young Borovskova
Doomheim
#23 - 2012-05-21 19:30:26 UTC
JitaPriceChecker2 wrote:
Tinnin Sylph wrote:
Someone put in the time and effort and basically won at EVE but it wasn't me therefore CCP must remove the fruits of their labour from them.

Seems reasonable.


NAPTRAINS != effort

Beside rules were biased - technetium redistribution.
Why tech inst available across universe and then try again at winning.




If you were aware of what's happening in game you should know by now goons are the first ones at previous CSM asking CCP to change this current status and make it worthy all across the Eve universe and not only a few regions.

So what or who are you really complaining about exactly?

brb
Alavaria Fera
GoonWaffe
#24 - 2012-05-21 19:36:30 UTC  |  Edited by: Alavaria Fera
Lin-Young Borovskova wrote:
If you were aware of what's happening in game you should know by now goons are the first ones at previous CSM asking CCP to change this current status and make it worthy all across the Eve universe and not only a few regions.

So what or who are you really complaining about exactly?

Goons wanted it nerfed? Oh then better leave it in just to spite them ^__^

What about titans, I hear they wanted those nerfed too.

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Morganta
The Greater Goon
#25 - 2012-05-21 19:39:05 UTC
I suggest you return to 2003 and stake your claim
Tobiaz
Spacerats
#26 - 2012-05-21 19:40:09 UTC  |  Edited by: Tobiaz
Another fine example why the prices of jump&bridge mechanics are way too low. There is simply no way nap-trains or resource cartels would work if the fuel consumption of especially capital ships was several orders of magnitude bigger then the pocket-change it is now.

Regions should fight neighbor regions again like it used to be. Not all nap-train together and then go curb-stomp much smaller alliances on the other side of the map. OTEC is only made possible because the Tech moons across several regions can all be protected on the drop of a hat, with the combined power of an entire hemisphere of the map.

Likewise, without cheap&safe JF-logistics dronepoo would never have become a problem for empire miners either.

These problems are mere symptoms of the underlying problem of low-cost, low-risk, excessive projection of power and logistic capabilities. CCP should fix the real cause.

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JitaPriceChecker2
Doomheim
#27 - 2012-05-21 19:40:17 UTC
Lin-Young Borovskova wrote:


If you were aware of what's happening in game you should know by now goons are the first ones at previous CSM asking CCP to change this current status and make it worthy all across the Eve universe and not only a few regions.


If that was the truth they would support my thread not giving arguments against !!

WHERE IS LOGIC IN THIS UNIVERSE ??????
JitaPriceChecker2
Doomheim
#28 - 2012-05-21 19:45:21 UTC  |  Edited by: JitaPriceChecker2
Tinnin Sylph wrote:


Quite. Please tell us then what exactly you do in game? I do hope it's something that justifies you calling for the hard work of thousands of players to be wiped out just because you're mad that someone else has all the cool toys.


How i play the game is irrelevant to whatever technetium redistribution should be fixed or not.

LOGIC !!

You cant tell me that CCP should decide what to do upon if i am powerful alliance leader or mere jita alt.

LOGIC !!
Liliana Rahl
Remote Soviet Industries
Insidious Empire
#29 - 2012-05-21 20:11:37 UTC
Do you really think there wasn't already a cartel in place?

It just wasn't official.
JitaPriceChecker2
Doomheim
#30 - 2012-05-21 20:13:28 UTC
Liliana Rahl wrote:
Do you really think there wasn't already a cartel in place?

It just wasn't official.


Maybe it was maybe it wasn't.

Tech still should be fixed ASAP.
Alavaria Fera
GoonWaffe
#31 - 2012-05-21 20:15:57 UTC
Liliana Rahl wrote:
Do you really think there wasn't already a cartel in place?

It just wasn't official.

Meh, there were people fighting over that stuff so I don't know if you can put it quite like that.

As I understand, White Noise. used to dump their tech monthly, crash prices for a week and I don't know what they did with the isk.

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Liliana Rahl
Remote Soviet Industries
Insidious Empire
#32 - 2012-05-21 20:19:24 UTC
Things are definitely more regulated now, but given the control over tech and the distribution, I'm willing to bet there was still quite some moderation going on.
Liliana Rahl
Remote Soviet Industries
Insidious Empire
#33 - 2012-05-21 20:19:45 UTC
And we all know what White Noise did with the isk.
adam smash
Department of Gub'nent Welfare
Harkonnen Federation
#34 - 2012-05-21 20:25:54 UTC
Surfin's PlunderBunny wrote:
JitaPriceChecker2 wrote:
Tinnin Sylph wrote:
Someone put in the time and effort and basically won at EVE but it wasn't me therefore CCP must remove the fruits of their labour from them.

Seems reasonable.


NAPTRAINS != effort

Beside rules were biased - technetium redistribution.
Why tech inst available across universe and then try again at winning.



Same reason it's so valuable... if diamonds were shat out by squirrels they wouldn't be sought after or at all valuable



Diamond prices are kept up... they are not worth anything next to what is paied for them... Roll

GJ though because goons are doing the samething and trying to inflate the price to make more mone just like diamonds...
Alavaria Fera
GoonWaffe
#35 - 2012-05-21 20:28:13 UTC
Liliana Rahl wrote:
And we all know what White Noise did with the isk.

It matters not too much now since they *heh* aren't doing it anymore since their ATMs were taken away.

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Scatim Helicon
State War Academy
Caldari State
#36 - 2012-05-21 20:29:28 UTC
Sorry, we can't hear you over the sound of how fabulously wealthy our alliance is.

Now get down and clean my boots with your tongue, pleb

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Doctor Benway Kado
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#37 - 2012-05-21 20:33:07 UTC
JitaPriceChecker2 wrote:
Lin-Young Borovskova wrote:


If you were aware of what's happening in game you should know by now goons are the first ones at previous CSM asking CCP to change this current status and make it worthy all across the Eve universe and not only a few regions.


If that was the truth they would support my thread not giving arguments against !!

WHERE IS LOGIC IN THIS UNIVERSE ??????

You misunderstand us. We're not arguing that technetium shouldn't be nerfed. We're calling you a moron because we (CFC) warned everybody that it was a problem, campaigned that it should be fixed, publicly stated that we were going to start a cartel, killed a bunch of morons... and now you're crying foul. Calling for a stealth nerf because what we said would happen... happened. And now we get to act unbearably smug because not only do we have all that sweet Tech isk and the nearly bottomless tears of countless pubbies like you, but we're also righteously vindicated and get to put on a really douchey look on our face while we say "We told you so."

Ahhh, god, the smug. Can you imagine the look on my face? I'm not sure I'm properly conveying just how damn douchey it is. Also there won't be a stealth nerf because CCP has already stated that ring mining is going to be the solution. So bend over boyfriend, you get to grit your teeth while you wait for them to finish testing it. Hmm Hmm.
Fuujin
GoonWaffe
Goonswarm Federation
#38 - 2012-05-21 20:34:59 UTC
Tobiaz wrote:
Another fine example why the prices of jump&bridge mechanics are way too low. There is simply no way nap-trains or resource cartels would work if the fuel consumption of especially capital ships was several orders of magnitude bigger then the pocket-change it is now.

Regions should fight neighbor regions again like it used to be. Not all nap-train together and then go curb-stomp much smaller alliances on the other side of the map. OTEC is only made possible because the Tech moons across several regions can all be protected on the drop of a hat, with the combined power of an entire hemisphere of the map.

Likewise, without cheap&safe JF-logistics dronepoo would never have become a problem for empire miners either.

These problems are mere symptoms of the underlying problem of low-cost, low-risk, excessive projection of power and logistic capabilities. CCP should fix the real cause.




It is far too easy to go from one empire faction to another, even ones hostile to one another! Why, they even have police protection throughout their space.

Clearly, gate tolls and cargo tariffs need to be put in place by the NPC empires to force localized trading and keep jobs at home.
Ocih
Space Mermaids
#39 - 2012-05-21 20:36:20 UTC
free logistical intell for you Goons.

Sell all your technetium at 70K P/U
Once the nerf comes out (we know it will) you can have a bunch of worthless Technetium or you can have a bunch of ISK to buy the now worthless Technetium. Aside from reactor units, fullerides aren't in demand. There is too much technetium in EVE now. It will only get worse with ring mining.
Alavaria Fera
GoonWaffe
#40 - 2012-05-21 20:36:51 UTC
Doctor Benway Kado wrote:
You misunderstand us. We're not arguing that technetium shouldn't be nerfed. We're calling you a moron because we (CFC) warned everybody that it was a problem, campaigned that it should be fixed, publicly stated that we were going to start a cartel, killed a bunch of morons... and now you're crying foul. Calling for a stealth nerf because what we said would happen... happened. And now we get to act unbearably smug because not only do we have all that sweet Tech isk and the nearly bottomless tears of countless pubbies like you, but we're also righteously vindicated and get to put on a really douchey look on our face while we say "We told you so."

Ahhh, god, the smug. Can you imagine the look on my face? I'm not sure I'm properly conveying just how damn douchey it is. Also there won't be a stealth nerf because CCP has already stated that ring mining is going to be the solution. So bend over boyfriend, you get to grit your teeth while you wait for them to finish testing it. Hmm Hmm.

Yeah. Tech should be nerfed.

You are a moron.
We are incredibly smug.

Luv2MineTech ERRYDAY

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