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I'm Gallente, and I own slaves

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Leto Aramaus
Frog Team Four
Of Essence
#101 - 2012-05-23 15:10:47 UTC
Malcolm, thats what they get when they come out swinging first. Don't expect anything less than insults when you receive insults first. You might argue that's an immature "he started it" attitude, but that's the way people work.

Tyrathlion, please go ahead and repeat any carefully argued poinits, and I'll be happy to civilly provide justifications. What opinions would you like acknowledgement for? If you would like to begin some real debate, without insults, lets go. I would prefer that over this exchanging of insults, which you were exactly correct in describing.
Leto Aramaus
Frog Team Four
Of Essence
#102 - 2012-05-23 15:12:18 UTC
Tiberious Thessalonia wrote:
I think at this point it's fair to say that the OP never had an intention of engaging in a rational, reasoned discussion on the subject.

The solution for those who would be interested in having a rational, reasoned discussion is to disengage.

In short, don't feed the troll.


You're simply wrong. Read the above message to Tyrath, and feel free to do the same. I'm happy to debate with anyone willing to do it intelligently.
Tiberious Thessalonia
True Slave Foundations
#103 - 2012-05-23 15:15:52 UTC
Leto Aramaus wrote:
Tiberious Thessalonia wrote:
I think at this point it's fair to say that the OP never had an intention of engaging in a rational, reasoned discussion on the subject.

The solution for those who would be interested in having a rational, reasoned discussion is to disengage.

In short, don't feed the troll.


You're simply wrong. Read the above message to Tyrath, and feel free to do the same. I'm happy to debate with anyone willing to do it intelligently.


It's been stated before, but you have had attempts made to engage you in intelligent debate. I won't claim to be one of them, because quite frankly I would rather see you stripped of any willingness to engage in the acts you do, and I don't feel the need to convince you to do so willingly.

We have chips for this sort of thing, you see.

Failing that, chemical castration.

Maybe both at once.
Leto Aramaus
Frog Team Four
Of Essence
#104 - 2012-05-23 15:21:31 UTC
Hmm interesting, I will refrain from insulting you, and take that as an attempt to debate civilly, despite you calling for me to be castrated...

Why do you feel that way Tiberius? Do you have some kind of moral or religious inclination against sex, slavery, or the two combined?

I honestly felt these attempts at ingelligent debate, were not so, but actually just attempts at forwarding their own opinions on my thread, while not asking any questions of me or offering any kind of middle ground. The early responses were mostly along the lines of "you are disgusting, I am right, you are stupid, and that's the way it is."

That kind of attitude breeds insults from me.
Malcolm Khross
Doomheim
#105 - 2012-05-23 15:22:13 UTC
Leto Aramaus wrote:
Malcolm, thats what they get when they come out swinging first. Don't expect anything less than insults when you receive insults first. You might argue that's an immature "he started it" attitude, but that's the way people work.


Except you failed to address the latter half of my response to you, which illuminated to you the points that have been brought up in attempts at "intelligent discourse" and how you responded to them. If you wish to consider yourself intelligent and argue on the basis of intellect, then resorting to insults is counter-productive, especially when you use those insults to disregard the solid points of the argument presented rather than address them.

Read over the thread again, I would urge you. Even when you feel you've been insulted, the people brought forth solid points regarding their reasoning against you and your response was to become indignant, trade insults and disregard everything else. This does not promote intelligent discourse, it only furthers the insult matches.


Leto Aramaus wrote:
Tyrathlion, please go ahead and repeat any carefully argued poinits, and I'll be happy to civilly provide justifications. What opinions would you like acknowledgement for? If you would like to begin some real debate, without insults, lets go. I would prefer that over this exchanging of insults, which you were exactly correct in describing.


She did. I refer you to post sixty-nine of this thread, in which no insults against you were presented.

~Malcolm Khross

Tiberious Thessalonia
True Slave Foundations
#106 - 2012-05-23 15:26:08 UTC
I don't feel the need to engage you in a serious debate about why the concept of non-consensual sexual slavery is morally repugnant.
Leto Aramaus
Frog Team Four
Of Essence
#107 - 2012-05-23 15:28:34 UTC
Honestly, I did indeed read that entire post by Tyrathlion, but it was so long and uninteresting, I had no response to it. Possibly because I was so pre-occupied with trolling the people who orginially insulted me with no intelligent input, so you're not entirely wrong about that.
Leto Aramaus
Frog Team Four
Of Essence
#108 - 2012-05-23 15:29:04 UTC
Tiberious Thessalonia wrote:
I don't feel the need to engage you in a serious debate about why the concept of non-consensual sexual slavery is morally repugnant.


Well then... get off this thread?
Tiberious Thessalonia
True Slave Foundations
#109 - 2012-05-23 15:42:56 UTC
Leto Aramaus wrote:
Tiberious Thessalonia wrote:
I don't feel the need to engage you in a serious debate about why the concept of non-consensual sexual slavery is morally repugnant.


Well then... get off this thread?


I'm trying to get everyone off this thread.
Leto Aramaus
Frog Team Four
Of Essence
#110 - 2012-05-23 15:49:04 UTC
Quote:
I'm trying to get everyone off this thread.



Haha, well do you not understand the mechanics? Continuing to post here achieves the opposite of what you claim you're trying to do.

Morwen Lagann
Tyrathlion Interstellar
#111 - 2012-05-23 18:33:25 UTC
Leto Aramaus wrote:
Honestly, I did indeed read that entire post by Tyrathlion, but it was so long and uninteresting, I had no response to it. Possibly because I was so pre-occupied with trolling the people who orginially insulted me with no intelligent input, so you're not entirely wrong about that.

You insulted all of those girls by stripping away their humanity and dignity. You insulted your fellow Gallente and the Matari by your admission to your actions. Then you insulted the Amarrians by insinuating that your concept and implementation of slavery was in any way comparable to theirs beyond sharing the same name.

Then you continued insulting people directly when they called you out on your behavior, meanwhile claiming all you wanted was "intelligent debate". I'll quote you again, this time with some emphasis on key parts that are rather self-explanatory:

Leto Aramaus wrote:
Honestly, I did indeed read that entire post by Tyrathlion, but it was so long and uninteresting, I had no response to it. Possibly because I was so pre-occupied with trolling the people who orginially insulted me with no intelligent input, so you're not entirely wrong about that.

And right there, you insulted her while expecting her to do you a favor you had no right to ask for. She posted a rather detailed explanation, and your response was "tl;dr" instead of addressing it, because you were busy trying to troll people? And then you have the balls to ask her to repost what she'd said, instead of going back and reading it yourself?

Intelligent debate is not what you are after. That much is crystal clear.

Morwen Lagann

CEO, Tyrathlion Interstellar

Coordinator, Arataka Research Consortium

Owner, The Golden Masque

Ilsenae Alexandros
Perkone
Caldari State
#112 - 2012-05-23 18:53:40 UTC
Whee, moving the goalposts is so much fun!

To know the face of God is to know madness.

Hail Goddess
Pator Tech School
Minmatar Republic
#113 - 2012-05-23 20:46:54 UTC
I to own slaves. Amarr, Caldari, Gallente and Minmatar slaves. They're fed well and in good health.
Leto Aramaus
Frog Team Four
Of Essence
#114 - 2012-05-24 12:09:13 UTC
Quote:
You insulted all of those girls by stripping away their humanity and dignity. You insulted your fellow Gallente and the Matari by your admission to your actions. Then you insulted the Amarrians by insinuating that your concept and implementation of slavery was in any way comparable to theirs beyond sharing the same name.

Then you continued insulting people directly when they called you out on your behavior, meanwhile claiming all you wanted was "intelligent debate". I'll quote you again, this time with some emphasis on key parts that are rather self-explanatory:


I disagree with everything in the first paragraph, so why do you think I insulted all those people with my OP?

And I'll explain again, I insulted the people who "called me out" on my behavior, because they did so in a completely hostile and useless way. I'll make no claims that once I read the responses that were clearly just trying to troll me, I trolled right back. But I'll also say again, with the original post, I was looking for some discussion, not flames and hatred.
Quote:

Leto Aramaus wrote:
Honestly, I did indeed read that entire post by Tyrathlion, but it was so long and uninteresting, I had no response to it. Possibly because I was so pre-occupied with trolling the people who orginially insulted me with no intelligent input, so you're not entirely wrong about that.


You must not have read all my actually insulting posts, because that definitely wasn't one of them.
Malcolm Khross
Doomheim
#115 - 2012-05-24 12:19:30 UTC
Leto Aramaus wrote:
Quote:
You insulted all of those girls by stripping away their humanity and dignity. You insulted your fellow Gallente and the Matari by your admission to your actions. Then you insulted the Amarrians by insinuating that your concept and implementation of slavery was in any way comparable to theirs beyond sharing the same name.


I disagree with everything in the first paragraph, so why do you think I insulted all those people with my OP?


Lad, that you disagree with the paragraph is irrelevant, everything she stated in it is entirely accurate. She even explained to you why she made the statements.

~Malcolm Khross

Ilsenae Alexandros
Perkone
Caldari State
#116 - 2012-05-24 12:33:43 UTC
Leto Aramaus:

Owning people is bad, and you should feel bad.

To know the face of God is to know madness.

Ashka Neris
Raven Clan
#117 - 2012-05-24 16:08:27 UTC
Here is my desk, I'll introduce my head to it
Alejandra Xelari
State War Academy
Caldari State
#118 - 2012-06-04 17:40:09 UTC
As much as I wish that you would just lock yourself up in a box and have yourself jettisoned in a deadspace pocket, Monsieur Aramaus, I'm still glad that you've made this announcement to the world.

You're doing a great job of showing everyone how irrelevant one's ethnic heritage is. An ******* is always an *******.
Edaine Numenor
Numenor Benevolent Holdings
#119 - 2012-06-04 18:14:46 UTC  |  Edited by: Edaine Numenor
Its all just one big litter box we live in here isn't it? Blink

Liberating slaves wherever, whenever, and however I can.

Katrina Oniseki
Oniseki-Raata Internal Watch
Ishuk-Raata Enforcement Directive
#120 - 2012-06-04 19:00:26 UTC
Edaine Numenor wrote:
Its all just one big liter box we live in here isn't it? Blink


Litter, not liter.

Katrina Oniseki