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I'm Gallente, and I own slaves

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Leto Aramaus
Frog Team Four
Of Essence
#41 - 2012-05-21 23:42:23 UTC
Katrina Oniseki wrote:


I don't believe this person is a slaver at all. I don't believe he has slaves.

He's one of those fetishists with a penchant for bondage and control. It's a sexual thing with this guy, an egotistical perversion. So proud is he of his 'slaves', he feels the need to proclaim it to us so we might be jealous of his little harem.

We're not, so now he's upset.


Yes, I do have slaves.

Yes I am "one of those fetishists" I suppose, and I see nothing wrong with that.

No, I didn't feel the need to proclaim it to make anyone jealous, I proclaimed it to see what people had to say about it.

You people.... this whole galaxy is so angry and hostile.
Katrina Oniseki
Oniseki-Raata Internal Watch
Ishuk-Raata Enforcement Directive
#42 - 2012-05-21 23:49:52 UTC
Leto Aramaus wrote:
Katrina Oniseki wrote:


I don't believe this person is a slaver at all. I don't believe he has slaves.

He's one of those fetishists with a penchant for bondage and control. It's a sexual thing with this guy, an egotistical perversion. So proud is he of his 'slaves', he feels the need to proclaim it to us so we might be jealous of his little harem.

We're not, so now he's upset.


Yes, I do have slaves.

Yes I am "one of those fetishists" I suppose, and I see nothing wrong with that.

No, I didn't feel the need to proclaim it to make anyone jealous, I proclaimed it to see what people had to say about it.

You people.... this whole galaxy is so angry and hostile.


Since you had the balls to admit it, I will stand down and stop attacking you.

Katrina Oniseki

Fredfredbug4
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#43 - 2012-05-22 00:06:42 UTC
Your absolutely deranged. At least the Amarr genuinely believe that they are helping their slaves. You on the other hand are just exploiting them for your own personal benefit.

Watch_ Fred Fred Frederation_ and stop [u]cryptozoologist[/u]! Fight against the brutal genocide of fictional creatures across New Eden! Is that a metaphor? Probably not, but the fru-fru- people will sure love it!

Sephira Raynes
Imperial Academy
Amarr Empire
#44 - 2012-05-22 00:20:14 UTC
Leto Aramaus wrote:
Katrina Oniseki wrote:


I don't believe this person is a slaver at all. I don't believe he has slaves.

He's one of those fetishists with a penchant for bondage and control. It's a sexual thing with this guy, an egotistical perversion. So proud is he of his 'slaves', he feels the need to proclaim it to us so we might be jealous of his little harem.

We're not, so now he's upset.


Yes, I do have slaves.

Yes I am "one of those fetishists" I suppose, and I see nothing wrong with that.

No, I didn't feel the need to proclaim it to make anyone jealous, I proclaimed it to see what people had to say about it.

You people.... this whole galaxy is so angry and hostile.


In that case, you do not own slaves.
Leto Aramaus
Frog Team Four
Of Essence
#45 - 2012-05-22 00:24:31 UTC
Quote:
In that case, you do not own slaves.


Yes, I do.

Maybe we define slaves differently, but you're a presumptuous tool to think that your "Amarr" way is the only way.
Sephira Raynes
Imperial Academy
Amarr Empire
#46 - 2012-05-22 00:26:36 UTC
Leto Aramaus wrote:
Quote:
In that case, you do not own slaves.


Yes, I do.

Maybe we define slaves differently, but you're a presumptuous tool to think that your "Amarr" way is the only way.


Are your lovers with you against their will, without their consent? Are they physically or otherwise kept from leaving you, regardless of their desires? Do they have a "safeword"?
Katrina Oniseki
Oniseki-Raata Internal Watch
Ishuk-Raata Enforcement Directive
#47 - 2012-05-22 00:28:07 UTC  |  Edited by: Katrina Oniseki
Assuming your relation to these 'slaves' is sexual in nature as the above posts imply...

If these girls agreed to be yours, they are not enslaved.
If they did not agree to be yours, I suppose that might imply sexual assault.

Katrina Oniseki

Sephira Raynes
Imperial Academy
Amarr Empire
#48 - 2012-05-22 00:29:08 UTC
My point precisely Ms. Oniseki, thank you.
Leto Aramaus
Frog Team Four
Of Essence
#49 - 2012-05-22 00:41:19 UTC
Some agreed, some did not. Some are physically kept captive, some are not.

Do you mean to tell me that there are no loyal and doting Minmatar slaves, who are so well trained and indoctrinated that they are no longer physically restrained from escaping? These loyal slaves no longer require force or restraint to be kept from escaping their Masters, because they have no desire to escape. Does this make them slaves-no-longer? I have personally witnessed such slaves in my out-of-pod encounters on Amarr worlds and stations, so it seems you didn't think your argument through.

A "safeword"? Please, I am their god, not their lover or playmate.

Sylux Raynes
Doomheim
#50 - 2012-05-22 01:17:36 UTC
Leto Aramaus wrote:
Some agreed, some did not. Some are physically kept captive, some are not.


Those that agreed subjected themselves to your will by their own will, this does not make them slaves, it makes them servants. Their "pay" being whatever you offer them that keeps them willingly submissive to you.

To the latter, as you've indicated already about the nature of their "slavery," what this is called is sexual deviancy and it's vile, as well as illegal in just about every civilized place I can think of. Yes, including the Empire.

Leto Aramaus wrote:
Do you mean to tell me that there are no loyal and doting Minmatar slaves, who are so well trained and indoctrinated that they are no longer physically restrained from escaping? These loyal slaves no longer require force or restraint to be kept from escaping their Masters, because they have no desire to escape.


One who willingly submits is not a slave, as explained above, something satisfies them to the point of remaining. Services rendered by willing servants are repaid in a manner satisfactory to them. If a "doting Minmatar slave" as you so eloquently put it chooses to remain with their "master," then they are no longer a slave.

Leto Aramaus wrote:
A "safeword"? Please, I am their god, not their lover or playmate.


What you are is a fool, among the other adjectives I've used to describe you already. Further discourse with you will only increase the flow of bile into my mouth and I refuse to subject myself to it further.
Leto Aramaus
Frog Team Four
Of Essence
#51 - 2012-05-22 01:21:49 UTC
Quote:
Further discourse with you will only increase the flow of bile into my mouth and I refuse to subject myself to it further.


Good, nobody asked you to post here.

Everything you said is false.

I won't elaborate, since nobody else feels the need to give any intelligent input, I'll just follow suit and state my opinions but not support them.
Ston Momaki
Disciples of Ston
#52 - 2012-05-22 03:26:08 UTC
Leto Aramaus wrote:
Who's to say all slaves are minmatar? Who's to say all slavers are Amarr?

I have always been a casual and passive supporter of the Federation and its ideals. I still believe that a free and capitalist society is at least better than a corporate state, a religious empire, or a divided tribal nation, yet I have for some time and will probably continue to own slaves. I don't see this as any sort of breach of my Gallente heritage, despite the majority of my people believing slavery is inherently wrong. I, on the other hand, believe that might makes right, and since I have the power to do as I wish, I do so.

Are there any other Gallente citizens like me, who own a slave and are proud to say you are a kind and benevolent Master, continuing to uphold the ideals of the Federation while exercising your freedom to enslave and own beautiful young girls (of all races)...


Pedophilia drives much of the human trafficking that is pipe-lined through the major trade routes between the sovereignties. A continuing part of the work we do in DSTON involves rescuing those who were destined for the illegal slave trade in State, Federation, and Republic territories. When a pedophile becomes a capsuleer and can wield the power that goes with that station, pity his victims. Woe to all of us if we accept anyone who calls himself a "proud, kind, benevolent master of young girls" and woe to us if we accept such actions as anything but an utter perversion. Woe to the pedophile who believes that might makes right and uses might to enslave children for his own perversions. Let no one who does such things be accepted as part of any civilized community.

If ever there was a time for a collective voice among capsuleers to put aside our disagreements and give a resounding condemnation, this is such a time. Leto Aramaus has made it clear that he is a Pedophile who enslaves young beautiful girls of all races simply because he has the power to indulge his perversions in this way.

May even the bitterest of enemies join voices to condemn this.

The Disciples of Ston bid you peace

Leto Aramaus
Frog Team Four
Of Essence
#53 - 2012-05-22 12:27:54 UTC
Who ever said anything about pedophilia?

"Young" does not mean infantile you slanderer. I should bring you up on charges... or simply find you and destroy your ship for those accusations.

I made no such thing "clear". Seems a habit of you zealots and fools to assume that what you take from someone's statements must be the only interpretation.
Tiberious Thessalonia
True Slave Foundations
#54 - 2012-05-22 12:51:36 UTC
Leto Aramaus wrote:
Who ever said anything about pedophilia?

"Young" does not mean infantile you slanderer. I should bring you up on charges... or simply find you and destroy your ship for those accusations.

I made no such thing "clear". Seems a habit of you zealots and fools to assume that what you take from someone's statements must be the only interpretation.


Please, Mr. Gallente Policeman! A capsuleer is slandering me about my illegally owned slaves! He is saying I am a pedophile, when I am clearly just a rapist!
Leto Aramaus
Frog Team Four
Of Essence
#55 - 2012-05-22 13:04:48 UTC
Tiberious Thessalonia wrote:
Leto Aramaus wrote:
Who ever said anything about pedophilia?

"Young" does not mean infantile you slanderer. I should bring you up on charges... or simply find you and destroy your ship for those accusations.

I made no such thing "clear". Seems a habit of you zealots and fools to assume that what you take from someone's statements must be the only interpretation.


Please, Mr. Gallente Policeman! A capsuleer is slandering me about my illegally owned slaves! He is saying I am a pedophile, when I am clearly just a rapist!



Clearly!

Wouldn't you take the time to differentiate between the two?
Tiberious Thessalonia
True Slave Foundations
#56 - 2012-05-22 13:27:33 UTC
Leto Aramaus wrote:
Tiberious Thessalonia wrote:
Leto Aramaus wrote:
Who ever said anything about pedophilia?

"Young" does not mean infantile you slanderer. I should bring you up on charges... or simply find you and destroy your ship for those accusations.

I made no such thing "clear". Seems a habit of you zealots and fools to assume that what you take from someone's statements must be the only interpretation.


Please, Mr. Gallente Policeman! A capsuleer is slandering me about my illegally owned slaves! He is saying I am a pedophile, when I am clearly just a rapist!



Clearly!

Wouldn't you take the time to differentiate between the two?


Frankly I'm of the opinion that both should have their operating parameters modified so that they no longer do either. We have the technology. We can make you a human being.
Leto Aramaus
Frog Team Four
Of Essence
#57 - 2012-05-22 13:36:25 UTC
Quote:
Frankly I'm of the opinion that both should have their operating parameters modified so that they no longer do either. We have the technology. We can make you a human being.


Haha well you are entitled to that opinion Sir, I am of a different opinion. However, I suggest the discussion of either activity be ceased, because I would not be surprised if the Summit moderators have issues with entries on those topics...

Murder, war, and slavery, fine. But anything adult in nature? I would hate to lose my pilot's license.
AsheRaven
Brutor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#58 - 2012-05-22 13:42:30 UTC
What do you want for this announcement?

A cookie?
Tiberious Thessalonia
True Slave Foundations
#59 - 2012-05-22 13:51:12 UTC
Leto Aramaus wrote:
Quote:
Frankly I'm of the opinion that both should have their operating parameters modified so that they no longer do either. We have the technology. We can make you a human being.


Haha well you are entitled to that opinion Sir, I am of a different opinion. However, I suggest the discussion of either activity be ceased, because I would not be surprised if the Summit moderators have issues with entries on those topics...

Murder, war, and slavery, fine. But anything adult in nature? I would hate to lose my pilot's license.


You brought it up. I'm saying that I would be entirely happy with you losing your ability to continue to be a monster. I want to make you human, again.
Leto Aramaus
Frog Team Four
Of Essence
#60 - 2012-05-22 14:07:02 UTC
Quote:
You brought it up. I'm saying that I would be entirely happy with you losing your ability to continue to be a monster. I want to make you human, again.


You're a strange person Mr. Thessalonia, for something like that to make you happy... who's more the monster here I wonder.

I am proud to be the "monster" that I am, and take great pride in it. I would certainly never wish to be "human" again, I pity you who still considers himself one of such a base and primitive race. I also wonder at why you would believe that to be human is better than to be an evil, nearly immortal, god of the stars.... it's been quite fun for me so far.