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corestwo
Goonfleet Investment Banking
#21 - 2012-05-21 18:14:33 UTC
Fabulousli Obvious wrote:
corestwo wrote:
You know, he did say both highsec L4s and 0.0 bounties, implying they're both massive isk faucets that need to be nerfed.

The fact that highsec L4s are an equal reward to 0.0 bounties for a decidedly smaller risk is a separate matter.


Irrelevant. The Nulbears have nothing to do down there anymore. OTEC is in place. It's done. So lets go rabble rabble rabble High Sec. Obvious is Obvious.


"All of null is blue" that's why the drone regions were shooting each other until very recently and why we were shooting our northern neighbors until we killed them and they left and why the whole goddamn south is on fire and and and....

Nullsec is not as peaceful as people like you like to make it out to be. Yes there are several large powerblocs, no they are not all blue with each other.

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Alain Kinsella
#22 - 2012-05-21 19:15:28 UTC
stoicfaux wrote:

Have you read the patch notes? Specifically the part about how faction warfare will affect prices? Sounds like CCP may be in the process of changing a few paradigms:

"Level 5 requires 100,000 LPs: all stations in the system receive 5 additional slots, broker fees on contracts and market orders created in the system are reduced by 50%, medical clone costs are reduced by 50%"


Underlined an interesting part that I missed. Those 'slots' are additional research/invention, copy and build slots (if the FW station had any to start). Total of +15 slots I believe if system is L5, though I don't expect many systems to end up at that level.

Paradigm shift indeed. Will be interesting to see how many try to take advantage of this. I may be eating crow in future.

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Rhivre
TarNec
Invisible Exchequer
#23 - 2012-05-21 19:23:54 UTC
I have to agree with Lauren about the transaction tax, its not a biggie

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Ymmi Stenson
Future Overlords
#24 - 2012-05-21 19:37:26 UTC
Lost Hamster wrote:
From the patch notes:

- Market tax has been increased from 1% to 1.5% as a part of our initiative to keep the EVE economy healthy.

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OllieNorth
Recidivists Incorporated
#25 - 2012-05-21 20:02:47 UTC
On the plus side, I am such a horrible businessman that this change really doesn't effect me significantly.
Valryon
Republic University
Minmatar Republic
#26 - 2012-05-21 20:11:18 UTC  |  Edited by: Valryon
So does this mean all market taxes are from 1.0% to 1.5%?

Meaning the default fee when place a buy order would be 1.5%
And selling would be 3.0%? (sales tax + brokerage fee)

Edit: just confirmed on the test server it's only a 1.5% sales tax (not brokerage fee)
Aina Sasaki
Garoun Investment Bank
Gallente Federation
#27 - 2012-05-21 21:18:35 UTC
Bleh... that's annoying. I'm trying to cut costs in my trade activities. Now they are going up. x_x

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Nazim
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
#28 - 2012-05-21 21:25:55 UTC
Yes!

You guys called me a troll and crazy for suggesting the idea here https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=1260714#post1260714 but it looks like ccp actually sat up and took notice. I take full credit for this change and you are free to send me your personal gratitudes.

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Lauren Hellfury
Super Happy Awesome Fun Times
#29 - 2012-05-21 21:27:39 UTC
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Fabulousli Obvious
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#30 - 2012-05-21 21:33:51 UTC
corestwo wrote:


Nullsec is not as peaceful as people like you like to make it out to be. Yes there are several large powerblocs, no they are not all blue with each other.



I'm not disagreeing with THAT. There are always exceptions and I lumped ALL of Null into one bag for sake of simplicity on Forums. But then that's always a mistake.

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Plato Idari
SoE Roughriders
Electus Matari
#31 - 2012-05-21 21:50:11 UTC
This is a good change in my opinion.
If trade hubs were to form in low-sec fleet war systems it would create new opportunities and a more dynamic economic environment. Those who choose to look for these new opportunities will be rewarded, those who just want to sit in Jita and 1isk will not.
Kara Books
Deal with IT.
#32 - 2012-05-21 22:13:49 UTC
I have to agree, ratting in alliance space is a wee bit to lucrative, safer the highsec and potentially bot friendly.
corestwo
Goonfleet Investment Banking
#33 - 2012-05-21 23:11:17 UTC
Kara Books wrote:
I have to agree, ratting in alliance space is a wee bit to lucrative, safer the highsec and potentially bot friendly.

Stick to an inexpensive setup (meaning maybe a couple faction damage mods at most, why would you really need more anyway) and this describes L4 missions to the letter, too.

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Vincent Athena
Photosynth
#34 - 2012-05-21 23:16:52 UTC
If there was 13.5 trillion ISK traded on a Sunday, and we assume the daily average is less, say 10 T per day, then the extra 0.5% equates to and extra 1.5 Trillion ISK per month removed from the economy.

As big traders got skills, maybe 1 trillion ISK or so per month.

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Mu-Shi Ai
Hosono House
#35 - 2012-05-21 23:20:29 UTC
Rail-thin margin trading in Jita just got a little harder. Boo-hoo. Not everybody trades in Jita.
Kara Books
Deal with IT.
#36 - 2012-05-21 23:30:40 UTC
corestwo wrote:
Kara Books wrote:
I have to agree, ratting in alliance space is a wee bit to lucrative, safer the highsec and potentially bot friendly.

Stick to an inexpensive setup (meaning maybe a couple faction damage mods at most, why would you really need more anyway) and this describes L4 missions to the letter, too.


il love to see the statistics comparing ISK put into the game from ratting and ISK put into the game from level 1-4 missions.
Stealing Honest
Stealing Honest Speculation Group LLC
#37 - 2012-05-21 23:40:39 UTC
Mu-Shi Ai wrote:
Rail-thin margin trading in Jita just got a little harder. Boo-hoo. Not everybody trades in Jita.



No they didn't.

1.5% will be the new norm, and life goes on as always.


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Johnny Frecko
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
#38 - 2012-05-21 23:49:25 UTC
Kara Books wrote:

il love to see the statistics comparing ISK put into the game from ratting and ISK put into the game from level 1-4 missions.


It was on fanfest, Missions were #1 i believe, I'm not entirely sure if they seperated it from ratting though.
Almost sure it was missions and bounties put together.
Lauren Hellfury
Super Happy Awesome Fun Times
#39 - 2012-05-21 23:50:12 UTC
Vincent, you should probably halve your estimate at the least and probably chop it down to a third. The amount traded is not equal to the amount sold.

That'd leave something between 350M and 500M per month extra removed because of this change; which isn't exactly a large amount now, is it?

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Stealing Honest
Stealing Honest Speculation Group LLC
#40 - 2012-05-22 00:10:47 UTC
Lauren Hellfury wrote:
Vincent, you should probably halve your estimate at the least and probably chop it down to a third. The amount traded is not equal to the amount sold.

That'd leave something between 350M and 500M per month extra removed because of this change; which isn't exactly a large amount now, is it?



I don't think that word means what you think it means.....
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