EVE General Discussion

Kidd's Shïtometer is about to explode in this thread.

I'm a troll because I agree with people. Granted, they might be trolls themselves (or goons), but ...

Obviously there are the genuine trolls, who just post one liners or personal attacks, but quite a few posters on here go very in depth explaining their opinions.

Tippia is a good example of this, I've seen her in a number of threads write half page replies where every point and counterpoint is supported with evidence and thoroughly thought through logical arguments. Then I see the post dismissed as trolling because it doesn't agree with the OP.

Similarly anyone ever found to be in support of ganking or violence is dismissed as a troll. The main problem for me with these forums isn't the trolling, its the people who cry troll every time they meet an argument they can't dismiss with persuasive reasoning.

Tourette's syndrome is a **** wonderful thing.

Granted, the forums are mostly idiot, so there you have it...

Let's say you see a fat, old lady wobbling up the street. You think to yourself, "Hey. There's a fat, old lady wobbling up the street." Then, you shout, "Hey! Fat old lady wobbling up the street!" That'd be wrong.

Let's say you see a post criticizing the arbitrary and short-sighted way a particular (nameless) forum is being moderated by a handful of rank amateurs who succeed in only curbing freedom of speech, but are in no way organizing or managing the threads. And, this post is locked with an admonition to the poster to "Watch out what you say about how we moderate this forum!" So, you post in this forum (unamed), "Hey! The way you moderate this forum sucks!" That, too, would be wrong.

On the other hand, observing how the wind blows in a particular community (unamed) you pucker up and post something like, "Goons? They're great! I'm not against Goons!" (In hopes they leave you off their Shoot On Sight list,) THAT would be a good thing. It would be perfectly RIGHT!

(How'm I doin'?)

Oh that you were worth the bandwidth. (You can't tell when you're the BUTT of a joke? Thot not.)

As a general rule, on any forum, speaking your mind is perfectly OK...as long as what you say doesn't conflict in any way with the "accepted" vision of things.

For example, if you were to say "EVE is hard", you would get none or very few people arguing otherwise. If you said EVE in some ways is easier than WoW, because even WoW doesn't have local on PvP servers, you'll be smacked topside the head so friggin' hard, within seconds you'll find you've been hammered into the ground up to your ears. Even if what you said is perfectly true.

Same goes for literally every forum out there. The moment you say something that goes contrary to the belief of the vocal minority, you'll get trolled to death. And depending on the moderators, even suspended or banned. Like when I was playing Darkfall, and presented some accurate observations about the state of the game...BAM...one month suspension. Even though what I said was absolutely 100% accurate, it wasn't an opinion, just hard verifiable facts.

It's perfectly normal. And you do have a choice. You can speak your piece and then get trolled/eat a suspension, or you can nod along like everyone else, or you can quit. It's up to you. But speaking from the high pedestal of advanced age, I can tell you none of this matters one iota. In 10 years, nobody is going to give a flying gak about any of this, including you.

You are a funny guy. You meant to say as long as you suggest something that benefits Null Bears you will be taken seriously?

Why yes.

The level of verbal abuse I need to dish out to the Null Bear to get him to semi-shutup and allow discussion of core problems is quite impressive. Most people aren't really willing to be that hostile.

I find it easy cause Goons are worthless cowards hiding behind Blobs and Local.

NO; YOUR AN GOON!!