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All Industrial Pilots who have lost Ships to Hulkagedon Please Respond

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Ioci
Bad Girl Posse
#21 - 2012-05-20 22:41:44 UTC
Ludi Burek wrote:
Can you please stop referring to mining shitlords as "industrial" players thank you. Actual industrials utilize a little more brainzzz.


Unless they are buying seeded minerals I'd say you aren't the brightest bulb on the tree.

R.I.P. Vile Rat

leviticus ander
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#22 - 2012-05-20 22:45:13 UTC
No More Heroes wrote:
Ladies and Gentleman, mine smarter not harder. Get the GSF Mining Permit today. Contact Andski for more info.

I can confirm that this is backed by a former CSM member who is very well known in the playerbase, and is still a very popular person in null sec.
baltec1
Bat Country
Pandemic Horde
#23 - 2012-05-20 22:46:11 UTC
Ioci wrote:
Ludi Burek wrote:
Can you please stop referring to mining shitlords as "industrial" players thank you. Actual industrials utilize a little more brainzzz.


Unless they are buying seeded minerals I'd say you aren't the brightest bulb on the tree.


He is quite right, miners are not industrialists.
Fabulousli Obvious
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#24 - 2012-05-20 22:50:39 UTC  |  Edited by: Fabulousli Obvious
It's quite simply the worst thread ever.

addendum: indeed mining is only a small part of the REAL Industrialists time. But they will never understand the distinction because apparently all mining is 'bad'. Also, a noob mining for hours on end for ISK in an Osprey is one thing, a 2 year old toon in a Mack out for 23 hours a day is another.

I am NOT YOUNG ENOUGH to know EVERYTHING.  ~~ Oscar Wilde, writer, d. November 30, 1900

MadMuppet
Critical Mass Inc
#25 - 2012-05-20 23:17:43 UTC  |  Edited by: MadMuppet
I am considered an industrialist, but I have never lost a ship to Hulkageddon. I understand the rules of the sandbox, what is going on, and what to do to avoid getting swept up in it. I've spent several hours in my Hulk this weekend mining a very nice Omber Grav site for future production in a fairly high-traffic area (research agent, one jump from an ice belt). I check D-scan often and always aligned. Please stop crying that the world should change for you, please evolve or die.

(note the site is still pretty full in Hanodoo but will probably pop in the next 36 hours on a timer)

This message brought to you by Experience(tm). When common sense fails you, experience will come to the rescue. Experience(tm) from the makers of CONCORD.

"If you are part of the problem, you will be nerfed." -MadMuppet

Richard Desturned
GoonWaffe
Goonswarm Federation
#26 - 2012-05-20 23:20:50 UTC  |  Edited by: Richard Desturned
i'm an industrialist (among many other hats I wear) and I don't have any mining ships anywhere so vee oh vee

npc alts have no opinions worth consideration

bongsmoke
Visine Red
420 Chronicles of EvE
#27 - 2012-05-20 23:22:28 UTC
leviticus ander wrote:
No More Heroes wrote:
Ladies and Gentleman, mine smarter not harder. Get the GSF Mining Permit today. Contact Andski for more info.

I can confirm that this is backed by a former CSM member who is very well known in the playerbase, and is still a very popular person in null sec.


Who are you? I can comfirm crackheads wont rob you if you if you pay them $250. Roll
Cosmic Fart
Doomheim
#28 - 2012-05-20 23:33:08 UTC
Sorry... I've not lost any but thought I'd poast anyway.

Not because there hasn't been attempts against my beautiful mining ships. But maybe because I've been a little more observant and a little less active during Hulkageddon. Add a little luck in the mix and we be cooking with allspice.

Come to think of it.... I don't think I've ever lost a Hulk in the 5 years I've been playing.

I let someone borrow one and he never gave it back, does that count as being ganked?

Good luck and I hate it for the 5000+ miners who've lost their pretty shiney Hulkies/mining barges.
baltec1
Bat Country
Pandemic Horde
#29 - 2012-05-20 23:34:48 UTC
Cosmic Fart wrote:


Good luck and I hate it for the 5000+ miners who've lost their pretty shiney Hulkies/mining barges.


You lie.
Fabulousli Obvious
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#30 - 2012-05-20 23:35:53 UTC
MadMuppet wrote:
I am considered an industrialist, but I have never lost a ship to Hulkageddon. I understand the rules of the sandbox, what is going on, and what to do to avoid getting swept up in it. I've spent several hours in my Hulk this weekend mining a very nice Omber Grav site for future production in a fairly high-traffic area (research agent, one jump from an ice belt). I check D-scan often and always aligned. Please stop crying that the world should change for you, please evolve or die.

(note the site is still pretty full in Hanodoo but will probably pop in the next 36 hours on a timer)


Exactly. It's not that hard. My main only has lost ships (once...a Mack) outside of H'geddon.

I am NOT YOUNG ENOUGH to know EVERYTHING.  ~~ Oscar Wilde, writer, d. November 30, 1900

Fabulousli Obvious
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#31 - 2012-05-20 23:36:36 UTC
baltec1 wrote:
Cosmic Fart wrote:


Good luck and I hate it for the 5000+ miners who've lost their pretty shiney Hulkies/mining barges.


You lie.


And said with such conviction too.

I am NOT YOUNG ENOUGH to know EVERYTHING.  ~~ Oscar Wilde, writer, d. November 30, 1900

MadMuppet
Critical Mass Inc
#32 - 2012-05-20 23:42:08 UTC
Fabulousli Obvious wrote:
MadMuppet wrote:
I am considered an industrialist, but I have never lost a ship to Hulkageddon. I understand the rules of the sandbox, what is going on, and what to do to avoid getting swept up in it. I've spent several hours in my Hulk this weekend mining a very nice Omber Grav site for future production in a fairly high-traffic area (research agent, one jump from an ice belt). I check D-scan often and always aligned. Please stop crying that the world should change for you, please evolve or die.

(note the site is still pretty full in Hanodoo but will probably pop in the next 36 hours on a timer)


Exactly. It's not that hard. My main only has lost ships (once...a Mack) outside of H'geddon.


I actually built a bunch of Coveters this year expecting to get popped because I was making dinner or something... nothing happened. I even have a couple mining battleships prepped that are just sitting in the dock rusting... er... well they are Minmitar ships.. um.. anyhow... I understand the days of AFK mining are, not dead but, severely wounded.

Then again, so long as people shed tears for Hulkgeddon I know that I will survive. You don't need to be the fastest, just faster than the other guy.

This message brought to you by Experience(tm). When common sense fails you, experience will come to the rescue. Experience(tm) from the makers of CONCORD.

"If you are part of the problem, you will be nerfed." -MadMuppet

Fabulousli Obvious
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#33 - 2012-05-20 23:44:58 UTC
Boy, anyone clicking expecting tears is sorely PO'd by now.

I am NOT YOUNG ENOUGH to know EVERYTHING.  ~~ Oscar Wilde, writer, d. November 30, 1900

Lady Flute
Ilmarinen Group
#34 - 2012-05-20 23:50:20 UTC
I lost my hulk within days of returning to EVE recently, and to be blunt I nearly cancelled the credit card authority to CCP.

Go and look at the thread under the CSM area discussing proposed changes to the Highsec engagement rules to try to retain new / returning players.

Note with significance the point made that EVE is not a pvp game. It is a space simulator, which has pvp in it. The OP is correct: there are many people who play without the slightest wish to pvp, and but for low and null-sec players being SO DAMN BORED in low / null-sec that they decided to reinvent Hulkageddon (which concept is older than they are, to be honest) many players had a genuine no-pvp gentle gamestyle. That is gone, and there is a serious risk that along with it those players will go too.

For all those thinking that the OP is talking about attacking Goonswarm, you're not thinking correctly. Much more likely it is that the social players will create the Mining Cartel again, and the Cartel will favour the Russians who have had the honour to prefer to pvp against people who have a chance to win. Or perhaps mass subscription cancellations, however I suspect that will happen anyway due to the rules and ship design being so screwed up that mining in Highsec is more dangerous than being a wanted murdererous outlaw.
Unit757
North Point
#35 - 2012-05-20 23:55:16 UTC
I think miners need to be divided up into two groups. The 1% (if that), that actually understand the game, and fit a proper tank and know when to gtfo, and the 99+% that are absolute morons that need to be locked in a station-less system full of goons.

On the flip side of course, we do need to keep a handful around, because the incredibly stupid **** they post does sometimes give a good laugh. Whats next OP? You going to try and convince us that downtime is actually a plot to let gankers get in position without you seeing?
Alavaria Fera
GoonWaffe
#36 - 2012-05-21 00:00:16 UTC
Unit757 wrote:
Whats next OP? You going to try and convince us that downtime is actually a plot to let gankers get in position without you seeing?

I never thought of that ...

Triggered by: Wars of Sovless Agression, Bending the Knee, Twisting the Knife, Eating Sov Wheaties, Bombless Bombers, Fizzlesov, Interceptor Fleets, Running Away, GhostTime Vuln, Renters, Bombs, Bubbles ?

Cosmic Fart
Doomheim
#37 - 2012-05-21 00:12:16 UTC
baltec1 wrote:
Cosmic Fart wrote:


Good luck and I hate it for the 5000+ miners who've lost their pretty shiney Hulkies/mining barges.


You lie.




Honest!
Pok Nibin
Doomheim
#38 - 2012-05-21 00:55:22 UTC
It is so funny. Posts like these always draw the same string of "people" (I use that term loosely) saying the exact same things. It's like a Who's Who of ASPD Sufferers. I wonder if they realize how long they've been repeating themselves believing they just thought of something cool.

I didn't lose an industrial. I just had to say that. Sorry.

The right to free speech doesn't automatically carry with it the right to be taken seriously.

Lord Zim
Gallente Federation
#39 - 2012-05-21 01:04:07 UTC
Lee Longpigmen wrote:
due to CCPs lack of listening to the 75% of EVE Players needs and wants.

50% of hisec are nullsec alts.

Cyno's lit, bridge is up, but one pilot won't be jumping home.

RIP Vile Rat

Zhihatsu
Ministry of War
Amarr Empire
#40 - 2012-05-21 01:05:09 UTC
Pok Nibin wrote:
It is so funny. Posts like these always draw the same string of "people" (I use that term loosely) saying the exact same things. It's like a Who's Who of ASPD Sufferers. I wonder if they realize how long they've been repeating themselves believing they just thought of something cool.

I didn't lose an industrial. I just had to say that. Sorry.


I'm glad you're here to tell us these things.

People without faces have no mouths with which to speak.