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Soldarius
Dreddit
Test Alliance Please Ignore
#21 - 2011-09-19 01:25:30 UTC
I started a couple months before Apocrypha. What really lured me in was the depth, nearly limitless possibilities, and backstory. Unfortunately, the reality of Eve was not so grand as all that. Fortunately, its easy enough to skill up for something and get a taste of a different career path.

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Verone
Veto Corp
#22 - 2011-09-20 01:28:33 UTC
This thread suddenly makes me feel old Big smile

<3 Eve Rookies!

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CCP Guard
C C P
C C P Alliance
#23 - 2011-09-20 17:55:38 UTC
Tell me about it, Verone! :D

Everyone, THANK you for the stories and for sharing your feelings on EVE. These days I'm really interested in what the trigger is for people to take the leap and become a real part of this universe we all love Smile

It seems that early social bonds, the depth and freedom of the universe, and the strong feelings the game triggers are always the most commonly named reasons.

I started playing in 2003 when I started working as a Game Master and at first I was pretty much a carebear :P. I dabbled in this and that. I mined, I did missions and tried out new ships.

It wasn't until I tried PvP first that something clicked in my head. Like many of you mentioned, I've never played any other game that has managed to produce a genuine "fight or flight" response in my whole body. Why jump out of a plane and risk death when you can get the same adrenaline rush in the comfort of your own home. I mean...in the cold depths of space!

Thanks again for sharing. I loved your stories. If anyone has more, feel free to share :)

CCP Guard | EVE Community Developer | @CCP_Guard
CCP Spitfire
C C P
C C P Alliance
#24 - 2011-09-20 20:35:32 UTC  |  Edited by: CCP Spitfire
My reason is already five years in the past (I started playing in October 2006) but I hope you will forgive the ramblings of a veteran...

When I was just contemplating my career in EVE Online, I came across a blog called "The EVE Online 0.0 Experiment". It literally blew my mind away; the passion, dedication and good humour that its author has invested in his writings had convinced me: "The place he writes about is amazing; I want to be a part of it."

So I went out and joined a 0.0 corp. The rest, as they say, is history...

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paritybit
Solarmark
#25 - 2011-09-20 21:32:38 UTC
I'm a middle aged veteran of EVE, having played for three years now, but I thought I'd throw my story in.

EVE is the first MMO I have ever played. It is the only persistent world MMO I have played for longer than a week. At first I was lost and I didn't think I'd last the 14-day trial, but there was no other science fiction/space exploration game around at the time and I didn't have any where else to go. After a week, of on and off skill training (since there was no advice tutorial around that in the old days) I finally figured it out and realized that to advance in ability wasn't a function of time spent online battling monsters, it was a function of real world time -- and as a 30-ish engineer with a job and a three-month old that was very important to me. I was suddenly on equal footing with all of the teenagers who could be online all day every day. That was what kept me in for the first month.

Soon after, I got involved with a player corporation; the first few experiences were fairly poor, but each new experience just made me want more. I went from an empire-based corporation to a faction warfare corporation to an NRDS low-sec corporation near Providence to a null-sec alliance in Pure Blind to a CVA-friendly alliance in Providence and eventually wound up in NPC null-sec as part of a PvP alliance. What kept me going through the early experiences was that "something more" that groups like CVA offered. Something outside the normal range of experience and not relying directly on game mechanics to achieve. What keeps me going now are the social ties and the PvP.
Xerxes Ceasar
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#26 - 2011-09-21 09:01:46 UTC  |  Edited by: Xerxes Ceasar
CCP Spitfire wrote:
When I was just contemplating my career in EVE Online, I came across a blog called "The EVE Online 0.0 Experiment". It literally blew my mind away; the passion, dedication and good humour that its author has invested in his writings had convinced me: "The place he writes about is amazing; I want to be a part of it."

Yes, I remember Innomitate Nightmare. What ever happend to him? I have not red anything as well written in EVE since then.

On the OP topic I might not have much valuable things to say as I was already hooked in the beta testing. :)
Only thing that kept me from subscribing from day one was that i needed a credit card.
The things that kept me playing are the many options and always having a new goal to strive for. Not to forget the social aspect, doing things with others and sharing experiences or just chat about whatever.
CCP Spitfire
C C P
C C P Alliance
#27 - 2011-09-21 09:16:01 UTC
Xerxes Ceasar wrote:
CCP Spitfire wrote:
When I was just contemplating my career in EVE Online, I came across a blog called "The EVE Online 0.0 Experiment". It literally blew my mind away; the passion, dedication and good humour that its author has invested in his writings had convinced me: "The place he writes about is amazing; I want to be a part of it."

Yes, I remember Innomitate Nightmare. What ever happend to him? I have not red anything as well written in EVE since then.


Unfortunately, I have no idea. Cry As far as I know he just stopped posting one day.

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Ciar Meara
PIE Inc.
Khimi Harar
#28 - 2011-09-21 14:25:21 UTC  |  Edited by: Ciar Meara
When I returned from eve a few years ago I brought with me a couple of friends to show them the game.

They all subscribed for one single reason, they killed a pirate who had killed them when they wandered past 0.5 for a mission. They did it with my help but they tasted blood and excitement and didn't look back.

When the guy I gave a punisher with scrambler, webber and some guns/repair on it told me how he had switched of everything on his ship except the scrambler to make sure the prophecy didn't escape I knew they needed to go to 0.0 and go find "real fights", that was a mistake though. I had a different recollection of what 0.0 was.

They stayed for about a year, trading, making billions and working in 0.0 but they always talked about that first kill. They always did mention the fact that they never had a fight like that in 0.0 because of the blobs and the way the 0.0 system is composed.

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Rixx Javix
Stay Frosty.
A Band Apart.
#29 - 2011-09-21 16:23:24 UTC
Today is my 3rd Birthday in Eve.

I never had a trial, I subscribed on day one. Why? Two simple reasons:

1) Eve worked on my Mac
2) I could fly spaceships

I saw Eve running on a friends computer and went straight home and downloaded it and haven't stopped since.

As long as I am able and Eve is around I will be playing it. I honestly can't imagine not playing it. If CCP stopped developing it right now I would continue playing it until I was the only one left in space. If you've ever wondered who that person would be, it would be me.

I have never played another MMO, not before Eve and not after. And I probably never will. (I do play computer games, console games and games on my iPhone/iPad) But Eve is the only MMO for me.

I write about Eve every day on EVEOGANDA. I produce artwork for fellow players, for EON, and for anyone else that needs it. I'm involved in Tweetfleet, I run the EVE BLOG PACK and honestly I'd do just about anything I could to help Eve, to promote it and to encourage others to play it.

And I do it all for the rush of Player vs Player combat. There isn't anything else like it, anywhere. Period.

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Kaeda Maxwell
Stay Frosty.
A Band Apart.
#30 - 2011-09-21 16:57:09 UTC  |  Edited by: Kaeda Maxwell
I got hooked on space games a long time ago playing Elite 2, loved flying around doing trade and going out of my way to run missions for the Imperial faction just to be different pretty much.

Then I saw EVE running on a friends PC back in I think 2004, It look f 'ing sweet, but sadly I didn't have the hardware to run it nor the funds to acquire said hardware. When I eventually did in 2008 and made an account I came to it very much with an 'Elite' (the game not the brand of douchebag) mindset so I tried trading and missioning I enjoyed it a while was in E-UNI but grew bored doing bear stuff. PvP seemed very daunting and seemed to require a group to do and I did PvP in Guild Wars where I had a group so I unsubbed. For my PvE desires I played WoW because that had less boring PvE.
Good PvP in Guild Wars died for various reasons and some people in an IRC channel (#gwp on gamesurge) mentioned EVE PvP was really quite good and you could solo.

Then somebody somewhere linked me Wensley's Rifter Guide to Solo PvP and I've been playing since, got captured by the 'grand idea of EVE' a universe that allows many people to play in many ways and interact (sometimes against their will, but that only makes it better) in many many ways.

Now I can't really see myself playing anything else ever again MMO wise, everything else feels like a theme park on rails to me now.

EVE ruined me for MMO's (that aren't EVE). The only thing that could turn me away now is if the game abandoned the ' "real" loss principle' it is what defines EVE for me.

What could have made me not unsub the first time is more information on, and better ways to get into solo/small gang PvP.
CCP Spitfire
C C P
C C P Alliance
#31 - 2011-09-21 16:58:11 UTC
Rixx Javix wrote:
Today is my 3rd Birthday in Eve.

I never had a trial, I subscribed on day one. Why? Two simple reasons:

1) Eve worked on my Mac
2) I could fly spaceships

I saw Eve running on a friends computer and went straight home and downloaded it and haven't stopped since.

As long as I am able and Eve is around I will be playing it. I honestly can't imagine not playing it. If CCP stopped developing it right now I would continue playing it until I was the only one left in space. If you've ever wondered who that person would be, it would be me.

I have never played another MMO, not before Eve and not after. And I probably never will. (I do play computer games, console games and games on my iPhone/iPad) But Eve is the only MMO for me.

I write about Eve every day on EVEOGANDA. I produce artwork for fellow players, for EON, and for anyone else that needs it. I'm involved in Tweetfleet, I run the EVE BLOG PACK and honestly I'd do just about anything I could to help Eve, to promote it and to encourage others to play it.

And I do it all for the rush of Player vs Player combat. There isn't anything else like it, anywhere. Period.


Happy birthday and thank you for all your hard work!

CCP Spitfire | Marketing & Sales Team @ccp_spitfire
Seleene
Body Count Inc.
Mercenary Coalition
#32 - 2011-09-21 19:03:30 UTC
Damn, I feel oooooold. When I started playing EVE, we didn't have fancy things like... Omens and Rifters. I mined Omber in a Punisher for three weeks to get a Maller BPO. The first Thorax I saw was the most beautiful thing ever... even as it blew my up in lo-sec. Lol

Cripes, I should really blog about 'the old days' at some point. Would keep me busy for a few weeks at least.

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Ryunosuke Kusanagi
#33 - 2011-09-21 19:31:27 UTC
hmm...

Having started out in UO (thats Ultima Online for those who dont know), I bounced around several games since then, DAoC, a bit of WoW, SWG... etc. I was (again) playing UO at about the 2005-2006 area when one of my guildies said they were playing EVE, I took a look at it, got hooked on the open sandboxishness of it (the best games seems to be the ones where you aren't bound by rules; Morrowind, Freelancer, EVE, Minecraft, Sims/Sim City, etc.) but the community, as has been stated before, is what kept me here. When I left SWG, it was about 2 days post NGE, the Community Manager (what Fallout would be called), had just resigned over the whole debacle. Most of the people had unsubbed by the next morning, and thus the servers, and community was devistated, it felt... empty. So I hopped back to UO for a bit before EVE, where the community has kept me. Yes, even Mittens is good for the community, you need Trolls to keep things lively ;)

but ya, the two things most important to EVE is 1) Community, and 2) Open Sandbox. Everything else is just fluff.
StarRanger
Comms Black
Pandemic Horde
#34 - 2011-09-21 19:39:37 UTC
I'm an old player (from beta 3 testing pediode) and still play almost every day for about 4 hours (sometimes active, sometimes inactive). EVE-Online for me has become a way of living more to speak then actually a game to play for kicks.
The game has some unique game styles; from people that are very active with PVP, PVE or market/mining, too lay-back times and just chilling and chat with friends you know ingame or just do your own thing quietly.

EVE-Online attracted my attention back in 2002 (just before beta testing was starting) and read about it on some game website.
It's still there to read http://www.gamershell.com/news_4458.html

Being a fan in that time of Elite, X-Wing and such space games, it was the first MMO i would tried. At the time i was more into Counter Strike (First Person Shooter game). The huge sandbox was a mind blowing idea , Elite online i used to think, whoohoo. :)

EVE-Online for me is still quite an interesting game to play and hope to keep it playing for many more years. Made many friends with it, some left and returned even, lol. There is still a lot of different areas CCP can add into this game, its just keep crowing and expanding, which is awesome.

I did lay down a question in front of myself when i was reading all these post here, and that was if i discovered EVE-Online for the first time this week , would i still join this game? YES!!

Love the game for its awesomeness, hate the game for its bugs - but a love-hate relation last very long Big smile


Anyway, the question i have for other long playing people:
If you found out about EVE-Online this week for the first time, would you join it?

Cheers for the reactions and kudos to CCP!

🌟 Playing with spaceships since 2003, serious business! 🚀
inexistin
Rubbish and Garbage Removal
#35 - 2011-09-21 20:32:07 UTC
StarRanger wrote:
Anyway, the question i have for other long playing people:
If you found out about EVE-Online this week for the first time, would you join it?


Not today, not tomorrow, but probably by the end of February, when I'd have more time to take it all in. One of the deciding factors that kept me away from mmos was that they eat up a hell of a lot of time.
Psyrelle
Perimeter Provisions
#36 - 2011-09-21 20:42:47 UTC  |  Edited by: Psyrelle
Well im not a newbie anymore but i owuld love to share my first hate and first love of eve.

tl:dr i tried i stopped i tired again, then mined and done lots of things since then.

i started first time back in 07 i saw this annoying ad from eve online about a spaceship game. at that time i was playing freelancer and was getting bored of it. i tried it out. for aproximately 3 days and quit it. back then i had no idea what to do so i quit.

about 1½ year later, while i was in a Dungeons and Dragons pen and paper club i saw one of the guys had brought he's lappy with him and on it was eve. i skipped a glance and thought... hey i know that game. we got into a talk about the game and it had changed and so on. so when i came home 04am in the morning the first thing i did was download the game. but hte sad thing was that i had a slow internet and it took like forever to download. so when i was finished i went to bed. the next morning i had forgot all about it and only noticed it the next week when my friend asked me how it was going ingame.
i then rushed home. skipping DnD to try it out. failed to get the name of my firend i joined a player corp who sadly wasent active. so i tried to learn everythign myself. and it took me a week before i noticed the whole hey i need to skill up thing. after that i leaved the corp and joined a mining corp. with only a few days left of my trial i tried to play as much as possible. and then i saw this awesome thing called corp mining. here there was 10 orca's and 90 miners of all sort sucking those roids into them. i was a view that was really awesome. i finally got my ass together and paid for a month. and i got myself into flying retriever as fast as possible and after that a orca. but the corp slowly died and so did i.

about 3 month later i came back to eve where i traded my toon for a good amount of isk and bought another one. since then i have been mining mission running scanning scamming trading invention manufacturing doing large scale pvp and small fleet fights and lastly hi-sec pvp.

what was almost enough to me stop subscriping was the badly made tutorial and the lack of help from otehr players.
ever since then i have made many alts (around 13) and everytime i have used the first 30 days of that toon trying to help as many as possible in my own corp and rookie channel.

sorry for this long block of text... its late and lack of sleep lately have made me make alot of spelling mistake and rant on.

StarRanger wrote:
Anyway, the question i have for other long playing people:
If you found out about EVE-Online this week for the first time, would you join it?


Yearh since ive tried the new tutorial and seems alot better. i don't really care about the many mistakes eve is making lately i just warna play my game i so love and adore.

my question for the vets!
How many of you have been to fanfest?

my question to the newbs!
How many of you is planning to come to fanfest 2012
Keil Sonter
Allied Pilots Corporation
#37 - 2011-09-21 20:53:34 UTC
Greygal wrote:
I joined Eve in May, 2009, so not a newbie although there are days I still feel like one Big smile

One late restless night shortly after Apocrypha was released, I saw an ad for Eve Online. Honestly, I don't quite know why I choose to click the ad and download it, but I did. Within hours, I knew I was nearly hooked but resisted subscribing.

.......

And that is when I realized I had no probes. I left them outside, in my rush and excitement to see the wonders of this wormhole I'd so painstakingly scanned out. There was no warning pop-up about leaving probes behind back then.

"Um... I left my probes outside..."

And at that moment, I leaned back in my chair and realized that I was truly lost in space, something that simply could not and did not happen in *any* other game. I got up and started pacing, amazed, I'm STUCK! There's no game mechanic or NPC rescue squad to save me! How the heck do I get out of this place?

Sitting back at my desk, I started flying around the planets, in that vast and empty space... I was truly alone.

It was real.

Meanwhile, the people in my npc starter corp chat were brainstorming, trying to figure out how I could get out. One person finally spoke up and asked me what system I found the wormhole in. I did happen to remember that - so I told him, and he said he'd come scan it out and try to find me. Everyone else in chat warned me not to trust him, "He'll just blow you up in there," "Just self destruct, it's better than risking your ship on a stranger..."

He scanned out the wormhole, jumped in then sent me a fleet invite, which I accepted with trepidation, all those warnings of never fleeting with strangers ringing in my head. Hands shaking and heart pumping, just *knowing* I was warping to a trap, that I was about to die with no glory, flames still pouring out of my ship, I warped to him, and what do you know, there's the wormhole right there in front of me!

I was rescued! It wasn't a trap! I was FREE! I wanted to hug my knight in shining armor right then and there!

Exhilarated, ecstatic, I jumped into hisec, and offered him all the measly few iskies I had for his time and effort as thanks. He refused and simply said, "Just help someone else stuck like you, if you ever get the chance."

I jumped from my chair shouting, cheering, knocked over my soda can then ran into my kitchen, grabbed my purse, dug my credit card out of my wallet and subsribed right then and there, my hands still shaking from the adrenaline of it all.

My hero's name was Aarthen. Although I've never flown with him since, I'll never forget him.

Three days later, I proudly paid the favor forward and scanned another newbie out of a wormhole they found themselves stuck in. A few weeks later, I joined Sephray Industries corporation, eventually joining the "inner circle" of the corp inside a class 3 wormhole that they colonized, as it turns out, three days after Apocrapha was released...a wormhole we named The Zoo. We lived in The Zoo for over two years, until May of this year when we lost it in an epic six-day seige to Russians. A major loss that had an emotional impact unlike any I've ever experienced in any game, and rarely in real life.

........


You made me laugh - you made me feel good - you made me have a little tear in my eye

I love you :)

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noise
Space Defence Force
#38 - 2011-09-21 21:46:27 UTC
I loved Elite way back, including it's sequels that followed. Spent a lot of my childhood with those games.

I started this account in July 2003, coming from Earth and Beyond. I think CCP mass mailed me or something but I had already heard of the game through magazines such as PC Gamer. I was fed up of just walking around in Earth and Beyond to get anything done. I actually bought the boxed version of the game while browsing the GAME store here in the UK.

When I came to New Eden, I was a little disappointed about being unable to see my physical self but soon got over it. I remember not having a clue about the attributes and starting skills to pick and ended up having a fair few in Charisma. What a mistake!

I ran missions and mined at belts in order to afford bigger and better ships, even though I had no idea what I was doing and often flew mostly unfit ships. Not long into my capsuleer career I was snapped up by my first player corporation. They taught me stuff, told me my character was crap so I made another one (who is no longer part of the family) and used her instead of this one.

I remember the freedom was a magnificent feeling. Do what I want (I wanted to be a bounty hunter, damn you CCP) but ultimately it proved too much for a carebear to handle and my account lapsed.

I just didn't know what I was doing. I had no idea how to handle the module stacking and what most of the modules would do, despite corpies trying to teach me (well, we were miners!). I was also forever afraid of being blown sky high by m0o. I felt, at the time, like an idiot and I didn't like it.

Given time EVE tugged back though. I just HAD to log back in and see the beauty of the game once again. It was as beautiful as I remembered and still just as harsh! Again, I didn't know what I was doing and this time I was on my own after being kicked out of the corp due to inactivity. I stumbled around with no player help and no decent tutorials available to 'guide' me. I lost a few ships and was gutted. Playing the game solo was no fun and cancelled my subscription again after a while.

Obviously, I did come back. I met a co-worker who had been playing for a short while. We both re-subbed and decided that FW PvP was where it was at! I split my characters onto different accounts so that noise could start training again. Joined FW and helped capture every single Gallente system as part of the Caldari FW (with the other character). This was where the real fun came into it. Part of a team, hands shaking and exploding. A lot!

So to summarise my waffle. What put me off was the lack of initial direction. There wasn't really anything to properly direct me into any of the main paths and I was too stupid to figure it out myself. I am ever, ever, ever so glad I finally figured out what to do! (albeit, still badly)

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Greygal
Redemption Road
Affirmative.
#39 - 2011-09-22 05:25:07 UTC  |  Edited by: Greygal
StarRanger wrote:

Anyway, the question i have for other long playing people:
If you found out about EVE-Online this week for the first time, would you join it?


What with the New Player Experience as much improved as it is now, yes, I think I would join again if I just found it. I think my experience as a new player today would be less nerve-wracking as it was over 2 years ago though Big smile but still plenty amazing!

Psyrelle wrote:

my question for the vets!
How many of you have been to fanfest?

my question to the newbs!
How many of you is planning to come to fanfest 2012


Have not been to fanfest, but would *love* to go, but alas, no job no budget... would be cool if I could buy tickets with Isk!

Keil Sonter wrote:

You made me laugh - you made me feel good - you made me have a little tear in my eye

I love you :)


You just made me blush! That doesn't happen very often! Blink

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Khimi Harar
#40 - 2011-09-22 07:14:29 UTC
Seleene wrote:
Damn, I feel oooooold. When I started playing EVE, we didn't have fancy things like... Omens and Rifters. I mined Omber in a Punisher for three weeks to get a Maller BPO.


Damn I did the exact same thing! But I wanted an Omen cause was more pretty! (Oracle blew it up, filthy minmatar heathens)

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