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CSM Member Issler Dainze: A Threat To The Legitimacy of the CSM and All of Lowsec

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Dawn Flare
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
#41 - 2012-05-18 23:05:54 UTC
Damn I wish I could post with my main and give this thread the proper love it deserves.

But yeah, them some sweet, sweet tears, Issler. You are a wonderful role model to all our young carebears, teaching them to blame others with the internal mails you send out.

Glad we like to recruit our people young, before you have a chance to pollute them with your lack of responsibility.
Serge Bastana
GWA Corp
#42 - 2012-05-18 23:05:57 UTC
How do you carry out a vote of no confidence on a CSM member?

WoW holds your hand until end game, and gives you a cookie whether you win or lose. EVE not only takes your cookie, but laughs at you for bringing one in the first place...

Herzog Wolfhammer
Sigma Special Tactics Group
#43 - 2012-05-18 23:07:20 UTC
Big ******* deal.

Bring back DEEEEP Space!
Feelsgood Man
State War Academy
Caldari State
#44 - 2012-05-18 23:08:01 UTC
Serge Bastana wrote:
How do you carry out a vote of no confidence on a CSM member?


I'm not sure you can otherwise Darius III wouldn't have made it to the end of the CSM6 term.
knulla
Doomheim
#45 - 2012-05-18 23:08:41 UTC
All this hoopla over killing carebears in lowsec and you don't even do the shooting yourself?

eve needs a real war soon or I fear the worst has yet to come!!

 [u]Malice Redeemer[/u] - "Post if you are unsubing over the new inventory"  Posted: 2012.05.23 01:39

    lol
Karadion Kohlar
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#46 - 2012-05-18 23:08:43 UTC
Serge Bastana wrote:
How do you carry out a vote of no confidence on a CSM member?

You can't. Only by being outvoted by the next election. Hopefully GoonSwarm will run 4 candidates or so next time and keep off morons from the CSM like Issler and Darius III, both useless CSM members but they don't get free trips to Iceland anyways.
Large Collidable Object
morons.
#47 - 2012-05-18 23:09:03 UTC  |  Edited by: Large Collidable Object
Issler Dainze is either a complete idiot or the best troll ever (I think it's the latter, because noone can possibly be that dumb).
You know... [morons.](http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4gjOx65yD5A)
Tarryn Nightstorm
Hellstar Towing and Recovery
#48 - 2012-05-18 23:09:09 UTC
Doesn't this sort of puerile garbage belong in the toilet known as CAOD?

Mods, please move.

Star Wars: the Old Republic may not be EVE. But I'll take the sound of dual blaster-pistols over "NURVV CLAOKING NAOW!!!11oneone!!" any day of the week.
Karadion Kohlar
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#49 - 2012-05-18 23:09:24 UTC
Herzog Wolfhammer wrote:
Big ******* deal.


Joe Biden: This is a bigfucking deal.
Karadion Kohlar
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#50 - 2012-05-18 23:09:38 UTC
Large Collidable Object wrote:
Issler Dainze is either a complete idiot or the best troll ever.

The latter is not possible.
Renn Aldard
Pator Tech School
Minmatar Republic
#51 - 2012-05-18 23:09:45 UTC
Feelsgood Man wrote:
Serge Bastana wrote:
How do you carry out a vote of no confidence on a CSM member?


I'm not sure you can otherwise Darius III wouldn't have made it to the end of the CSM6 term.


Mittani did it
Scatim Helicon
State War Academy
Caldari State
#52 - 2012-05-18 23:10:37 UTC
Even when we don't actually do anything we're still responsible for destroying Eve.

:smug:

Every time you post a WiS thread, Hilmar strangles a kitten.
Alavaria Fera
GoonWaffe
#53 - 2012-05-18 23:10:44 UTC
Serge Bastana wrote:
Alavaria Fera wrote:
Man, next time we need to get those POSes BEFORE it depreciates to 0.

Stuff doesn't depreciate in EVE you know... that POS can be used just as good as a new one - if it hadn't been blown up by dreadnaughts.

That was how they depreciated to 0.

Heh. Goons, keeping your capital depreciating since ... when did we start shooting things?

Triggered by: Wars of Sovless Agression, Bending the Knee, Twisting the Knife, Eating Sov Wheaties, Bombless Bombers, Fizzlesov, Interceptor Fleets, Running Away, GhostTime Vuln, Renters, Bombs, Bubbles ?
Karadion Kohlar
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#54 - 2012-05-18 23:11:34 UTC  |  Edited by: Karadion Kohlar
Renn Aldard wrote:
Feelsgood Man wrote:
Serge Bastana wrote:
How do you carry out a vote of no confidence on a CSM member?


I'm not sure you can otherwise Darius III wouldn't have made it to the end of the CSM6 term.


Mittani did it

Not voluntarily. Darius' incompetence is voluntarily on the other hand. Oh wait, doing it voluntarily means you are aware of your actions. So Darius' incompetence isn't voluntarily therefore will always be a terrible CSM.
Alavaria Fera
GoonWaffe
#55 - 2012-05-18 23:12:21 UTC
Scatim Helicon wrote:
Even when we don't actually do anything we're still responsible for destroying Eve.

:smug:

ALL the :smug:s

Triggered by: Wars of Sovless Agression, Bending the Knee, Twisting the Knife, Eating Sov Wheaties, Bombless Bombers, Fizzlesov, Interceptor Fleets, Running Away, GhostTime Vuln, Renters, Bombs, Bubbles ?
Renn Aldard
Pator Tech School
Minmatar Republic
#56 - 2012-05-18 23:15:12 UTC
Karadion Kohlar wrote:
Renn Aldard wrote:
Feelsgood Man wrote:
Serge Bastana wrote:
How do you carry out a vote of no confidence on a CSM member?


I'm not sure you can otherwise Darius III wouldn't have made it to the end of the CSM6 term.


Mittani did it

Not voluntarily. Darius' incompetence is voluntarily on the other hand. Oh wait, doing it voluntarily means you are aware of your actions. So Darius' incompetence isn't voluntarily therefore will always be a terrible CSM.

But which one is still on the CSM?
Serge Bastana
GWA Corp
#57 - 2012-05-18 23:15:24 UTC
Alavaria Fera wrote:
Serge Bastana wrote:
Alavaria Fera wrote:
Man, next time we need to get those POSes BEFORE it depreciates to 0.

Stuff doesn't depreciate in EVE you know... that POS can be used just as good as a new one - if it hadn't been blown up by dreadnaughts.

That was how they depreciated to 0.

Heh. Goons, keeping your capital depreciating since ... when did we start shooting things?


Dunno, what time is it now?

WoW holds your hand until end game, and gives you a cookie whether you win or lose. EVE not only takes your cookie, but laughs at you for bringing one in the first place...

Desert Ice78
Gryphons of the Western Wind
#58 - 2012-05-18 23:17:31 UTC
Even for goon (ship)posting, you are trying way, way too hard.

I am a pod pilot: http://dl.eve-files.com/media/corp/DesertIce/POD.jpg

CCP Zulu: Came expecting a discussion about computer monitors, left confused.
Ranger 1
Ranger Corp
Vae. Victis.
#59 - 2012-05-18 23:18:36 UTC  |  Edited by: Ranger 1
Issler Dainze wrote:
I stand stand by it all.

Basically we are at war with the goons and the point no one is coming to help us. We have to stand on our own.

CCP won't save is, CSM won't save us, this is Eve. I'm not attacking CCP or CSM, I am saying they aren't in Eve to "save" us. That is the point of this message to my alliance, we need to not roll over and die. This message could go out to any other high sec corp or player that feels that they are under the boot heel of oppression in Eve.

So feel free to take it any way you want. But the fact is, the population of high sec that feels that they are the unfair targets of a certain group of players must rise to face the challenge. There is no help coming. We face this challenge alone.

Practically boilerplate for most cries to rally together during hard times and impossible odds.

Issler


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To give you an idea of how screwed up this is in the context of Eve, the allinace hired was Pandemic Legion, what is where the head of the CSM lives,so we are littlerally being attacked by the CSM.Basically Eve is beyond broken.CCP is actually totally supportive of goons and ganking, they think of it as player content. They encourage and support hulkagedon! They actually laugh about miner tears. Unless players join together this summer like they did over CCPs plans to exploit players using microtranactions I can't imagine how most of us could enjoy this game in a year.


I'm sorry Issler, but you quite clearly spell out that you believe EVE is beyond broken and that the CSM is directly attacking you through the corps/alliances those representatives hail from, with the insinuation it is because of your stance on CSM related issues.

Then you go further asking players to join together as they did against CCP's after the NEX was introduced, which involved protests and mass unsubscription.

You may not have meant it to come across that way, which is a bit of a stretch considering how clearly it is written, but either way this is possibly the most irresponsible action I have seen a CSM delegate take so far.

I have nothing against you in any way, and support at least the general concept behind some of the things you have spoken out for, but this is most disappointing.

I would suggest you get your head on straight about how you make public statements about the CSM if you wish to remain a member of them for your full term. Being outspoken, even critical, is fine... but outright unsubstantiated accusations of persecution and statements that EVE is "beyond broken" shows that your head is not in the right place to be a positive force in the development of the game.

Your conduct is bordering on becoming worse than what you have so frequently accused others (including the Mittani) of, namely using your position on the CSM to manipulate people and events to your personal advantage in game.

I won't stand for it from any of the other delegates, and after all of your preaching about it I certainly won't stand for it from you.

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Richard Desturned
Royal Amarr Institute
Amarr Empire
#60 - 2012-05-18 23:20:38 UTC
Renn Aldard wrote:
But which one is still on the CSM?


what a tryhard

npc alts have no opinions worth consideration