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CSM Member Issler Dainze: A Threat To The Legitimacy of the CSM and All of Lowsec

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Gabriel Kaile
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#201 - 2012-05-19 14:35:16 UTC
*opinion is irrelevant*
Morganta
The Greater Goon
#202 - 2012-05-19 14:43:43 UTC
Darek Castigatus wrote:
so heres the sequence of events, someone correct me if im wrong here.

1. Mittani gets drunk and says a lot of dumb things at fanfest
2. Issler immediatly and without bothering to talk to the rest of the CSM starts running her mouth about how awful mittens is and how he should be permabanned/removed from eve etc etc
3. The rest of the CSM politely asks Issler to STFU so they can make a unified response
4. Unified response is made, mittens resigns, drama ensues for a while

Some time passes

5. POSes in lowsec belonging to Isslers corp/alliance (id check which but i honestly cant be bothered) get attacked and eventually destroyed by goons & PL/people associated with goons & PL/people hired by goons & PL/people encouraged by goons & PL(again i cant be bothered to find out which one is true, answers on a postcard pls)
6. Issler sends out an alliance mail accusing the CSM of sanctioning attacks on her corp/alliance
7. Much hilarity is had on the forums.

Did i miss anything?


nope.. that about sums it up
more drama from the most useless political body in the universe
Caldari Citizen 786478786
#203 - 2012-05-19 14:50:15 UTC
Look at all the Goon shiptoasters and the flood of tears they've brought with them to the forums.

This is the greatest windfall of Goon tears that we've seen since, well, since their precious Mittens showed us all how shite he is at holding his alcohol and how much he enjoys the taste of his own foot.
RAP ACTION HERO
#204 - 2012-05-19 15:03:53 UTC
is issler a man? he she sounds like a man

vitoc erryday
GallowsCalibrator
Imperial Academy
Amarr Empire
#205 - 2012-05-19 15:06:31 UTC
Darek Castigatus wrote:
so heres the sequence of events, someone correct me if im wrong here.

1. Mittani gets drunk and says a lot of dumb things at fanfest
2. Issler immediatly and without bothering to talk to the rest of the CSM starts running her mouth about how awful mittens is and how he should be permabanned/removed from eve etc etc
3. The rest of the CSM politely asks Issler to STFU so they can make a unified response
4. Unified response is made, mittens resigns, drama ensues for a while

Some time passes

5. POSes in lowsec belonging to Isslers corp/alliance (id check which but i honestly cant be bothered) get attacked and eventually destroyed by goons & PL/people associated with goons & PL/people hired by goons & PL/people encouraged by goons & PL(again i cant be bothered to find out which one is true, answers on a postcard pls)
6. Issler sends out an alliance mail accusing the CSM of sanctioning attacks on her corp/alliance
7. Much hilarity is had on the forums.

Did i miss anything?


You missed :

0. Issler is an eternal well of crazy forever.
Fabulousli Obvious
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#206 - 2012-05-19 15:06:33 UTC
RAP ACTION HERO wrote:
is issler a man? he she sounds like a man


Even I reserve judgement here. P

I am NOT YOUNG ENOUGH to know EVERYTHING.  ~~ Oscar Wilde, writer, d. November 30, 1900
Nick Bison
Bison Industrial Inc
Cat Scratch Fevers
#207 - 2012-05-19 15:14:46 UTC  |  Edited by: Nick Bison
James 315 wrote:
Having read through the OP and Issler's subsequent responses, I have to admit I feel that Issler's resignation from the CSM would be appropriate.
A shame it's come to this. Sad


The shame is that your're still sh*tposting.
But then again, it is probably difficult for you to see any truth with your head so far up your backside you're viewing the world through your plexiglass bellybutton.

Myxx wrote:
Before.. I was kind of indifferent to issler with his/her initial fuckup with calling out mittens during mittanigate. I was willing to forgive that because, well, **** happens. Please don't make me think of you as poorly as Darius III or Ahnk.


So, Issler seeing evil and standing up against it is somehow, in your little mind, ,a bad thing. I seem to remember Churchill standing alone also. You need to just go away.

Shobon Welp wrote:

I, for one consider it highly inappropriate for a CSM delegate to talk about encouraging mass unsubscriptions, an action which would result in substantial damage to CCP's finances and threaten the jobs of hardworking CCP employees. For Issler to do so over having her POSs blown up in lowsec in a teenage temper tantrum speaks volumes about her character and suitability to serve as CSM.


I see this as Issler trying to get CCPs attention in this imerging gameplay. If this is, as it appears to be, supprted by CCP then they will loose a good chunk of the playerbase that represents the casual players ... you know, the 75+% ...

Nothing clever at this time.
Fabulousli Obvious
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#208 - 2012-05-19 15:15:27 UTC
Gabriel Kaile wrote:
*opinion is irrelevant*


It's the 4 year old who believes if he says something enough times it will magically come true.

Now I gotta go make that coffee for Brad Pitt's visit in a half hour.............

I am NOT YOUNG ENOUGH to know EVERYTHING.  ~~ Oscar Wilde, writer, d. November 30, 1900
Fabulousli Obvious
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#209 - 2012-05-19 15:16:50 UTC
Morganta wrote:

nope.. that about sums it up
more drama from the most useless political body in the universe


Then send them to some of the clubs South of Market Street. No such thing as a useless body there, let me tell you.

I am NOT YOUNG ENOUGH to know EVERYTHING.  ~~ Oscar Wilde, writer, d. November 30, 1900
Lord Zim
Gallente Federation
#210 - 2012-05-19 15:22:51 UTC
Nick Bison wrote:
I see this as Issler trying to get CCPs attention in this imerging gameplay. If this is, as it appears to be, supprted by CCP then they will loose a good chunk of the playerbase that represents the casual players ... you know, the 75+% ...

"hey guys, guys, our lowsec POS was attacked and the attackers are on the CSM! How can any alliance on the CSM attack assets of someone else who's also on the CSM?! This means it is obviously a CCP-endorsed action, and EVE IS BROKEN! Threaten to unsubscribe if they don't leave us alone, because if CCP doesn't tell PL and the CSM to stop attacking us and our assets, then we won't like this game in a year anyways!"

That's not casual, that's bat-**** crazy. I hear there are pills for that.

Cyno's lit, bridge is up, but one pilot won't be jumping home.

RIP Vile Rat
Gabriel Kaile
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#211 - 2012-05-19 15:29:36 UTC
Fabulousli Obvious wrote:
Gabriel Kaile wrote:
*opinion is irrelevant*


It's the 4 year old who believes if he says something enough times it will magically come true.

Now I gotta go make that coffee for Brad Pitt's visit in a half hour.............


Pack it in guys, we're all literally 4.

Oh wait, it's littlerally, right Issler?
Nick Bison
Bison Industrial Inc
Cat Scratch Fevers
#212 - 2012-05-19 15:30:01 UTC
Darek Castigatus wrote:
so heres the sequence of events, someone correct me if im wrong here.

1. Mittani gets drunk and says a lot of dumb things at fanfest
2. Issler immediatly and without bothering to talk to the rest of the CSM starts running her mouth about how awful mittens is and how he should be permabanned/removed from eve etc etc
3. The rest of the CSM politely asks Issler to STFU so they can make a unified response
4. Unified response is made, mittens resigns, drama ensues for a while

Some time passes

5. POSes in lowsec belonging to Isslers corp/alliance (id check which but i honestly cant be bothered) get attacked and eventually destroyed by goons & PL/people associated with goons & PL/people hired by goons & PL/people encouraged by goons & PL(again i cant be bothered to find out which one is true, answers on a postcard pls)
6. Issler sends out an alliance mail accusing the CSM of sanctioning attacks on her corp/alliance
7. Much hilarity is had on the forums.

Did i miss anything?


As usual, you omitt a lot of the more uncomfortable truths.Like everything that happend between your #4 and #5.
- Mittani claims that CCP "threw him under the bus."
- Mittani vowing revenge against all who, in his mind, alligned against him. In other words, he really didn't take any ownership of his actions.

Also, as to your "items":
1. Trrue
2. Why should Issler consulting with CSM? Opinions spoken/written were Issler's alone or do you think the watered-down version from the CSM politicians and Goon sycophants more relevant?
3. See 2
4. True
5. True
6. Ture and so what?

That all said, your #7 is spot on!

Nothing clever at this time.
RAP ACTION HERO
#213 - 2012-05-19 15:30:02 UTC
" CCP is actually totally supportive of goons and ganking, they think of it as player content.
They encourage and support hulkagedon! They actually laugh about miner tears.
Unless players join together this summer like they did over CCPs plans to exploit players using microtranactions I can't imagine how most of us could enjoy this game in a year. "

i just read that again, issler sure delivers, also issler supports wis. LOL would vote for that again.

vitoc erryday
Malak Dawnfire
Unquestionable Prosperity
Grand Inquisitors Federation
#214 - 2012-05-19 15:30:46 UTC
CCP's reaction to this thread: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tdftcvkgvJQ

None ofthe Above
#215 - 2012-05-19 15:32:16 UTC  |  Edited by: None ofthe Above
EvilweaselSA wrote:

... Well, let's ask Hans Jagerblitzen, or Two Step, or any of the fine CSM members who had no connection whatsoever to the CSM...


Who are these interesting CSM members who have no connection whatsoever to the CSM? I think it would behoove one to make sure you are making sense when accusing another.

Issler can get a bit histrionic at times I've noted. Speech more aimed at inflaming passions than actually making sense. Not something I admire or condone, but just an observed pattern. This is not absent in goon writings by any measure.

I might be tempted to call her out on bringing the CSM into it, but it's fairly clear that she's been targeted for being on the CSM, for calling out Mittens.

So I take it this is all meta and posturing? Just the usual then.

The only end-game content in EVE Online is the crap that makes you rage quit.
RAP ACTION HERO
#216 - 2012-05-19 15:37:37 UTC
hey issler are you going to get a fleet together and "stand up against the goons" or your counter attack will be consisted of only whining to devs and gms IE the wrong kind of metagaming.

vitoc erryday
Fabulousli Obvious
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#217 - 2012-05-19 15:38:10 UTC
Lord Zim wrote:
Nick Bison wrote:
I see this as Issler trying to get CCPs attention in this imerging gameplay. If this is, as it appears to be, supprted by CCP then they will loose a good chunk of the playerbase that represents the casual players ... you know, the 75+% ...

"hey guys, guys, our lowsec POS was attacked and the attackers are on the CSM! How can any alliance on the CSM attack assets of someone else who's also on the CSM?! This means it is obviously a CCP-endorsed action, and EVE IS BROKEN! Threaten to unsubscribe if they don't leave us alone, because if CCP doesn't tell PL and the CSM to stop attacking us and our assets, then we won't like this game in a year anyways!"

That's not casual, that's bat-**** crazy. I hear there are pills for that.


We've been informed by the Goons that since you post no Corp or Alliance you are an NPC alt and your words are dust in the wind.

I am NOT YOUNG ENOUGH to know EVERYTHING.  ~~ Oscar Wilde, writer, d. November 30, 1900
Nick Bison
Bison Industrial Inc
Cat Scratch Fevers
#218 - 2012-05-19 15:38:11 UTC
Lord Zim wrote:
... rabble rabble rabble ...


Goon tears, best tears. Keep 'em coming.

Nothing clever at this time.
Torneach
Doomheim
#219 - 2012-05-19 15:38:36 UTC
So, uh....

What's going on in here? Do I need to call the cops on you kids?
Fabulousli Obvious
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#220 - 2012-05-19 15:39:51 UTC
RAP ACTION HERO wrote:
hey issler are you going to get a fleet together and "stand up against the goons" or your counter attack will be consisted of only whining to devs and gms IE the wrong kind of metagaming.



You are an NPC Corp alt and do not count.

Goon-Think and Goon-Speak are EZ.

I am NOT YOUNG ENOUGH to know EVERYTHING.  ~~ Oscar Wilde, writer, d. November 30, 1900