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If you had to identify yourself..

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Klandi
Consortium of stella Technologies
#1 - 2011-09-16 11:02:44 UTC
There is a potential change in the way that people are tracked on the net.. It is being discussed in UK that they will have to supply their real names and possibly details.
How do you feel about this. Is the"Eve Paradox" reliant on anonymity and do you think you would post on these forums if you had to supply RL details?
Reason I started this in the Eve discussion is could impact the Eve community because TQ resides in the UK so this would affect all pod pilots.
I don't know whether it would be mandatory to release said details or what could be done with these (besides being sold on to raise cash) but this is a potential bombshell imo.

Comments?

I am aware of my own ignorance and have checked my emotional quotient - thanks for asking

Jokerface666
Intergalactic Expeditionary Corp
#2 - 2011-09-16 11:13:03 UTC
Real world detaiils = instant unsub....

srsly, i do not want 300k people to be able to acces my phone number or even adress.
Skippermonkey
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
#3 - 2011-09-16 11:15:45 UTC
Jokerface666 wrote:
Real world detaiils = instant unsub....

srsly, i do not want 300k people to be able to acces my phone number or even adress.


im sure that 300k people dont want your number either

COME AT ME BRO

I'LL JUST BE DOCKED IN THIS STATION

ThisIsntMyMain
Doomheim
#4 - 2011-09-16 11:19:58 UTC
Skippermonkey wrote:
Jokerface666 wrote:
Real world detaiils = instant unsub....

srsly, i do not want 300k people to be able to acces my phone number or even adress.


im sure that 300k people dont want your number either


No, but unfortunately even one of them is 1 too many.
3of5
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
#5 - 2011-09-16 11:22:59 UTC
would it be possible to get a link to this information please?
Ciar Meara
PIE Inc.
Khimi Harar
#6 - 2011-09-16 11:23:22 UTC
You don't identify yourself to everyone. If such a thing is made law it is probably a option of the government to receive this kind of information if they deem so needed.

Privacy laws are very strict in Europe, putting everyone's information accessible online is not in line with this.

Besides, you lot are not that interesting.

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Nyio
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
#7 - 2011-09-16 11:25:41 UTC
The majority would never agree to have that I think, I know I wouldn't.
Those of you that was around when SCII and battle.net launched know what I mean.
Xuse Senna
Nocturnal Romance
Cynosural Field Theory.
#8 - 2011-09-16 11:26:07 UTC
This will never happen.

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Dirk Magnum
Spearhead Endeavors
#9 - 2011-09-16 11:27:23 UTC  |  Edited by: Dirk Magnum
I've used an email address containing my real name to register for some Eve stuff. A diligent researcher could probably sort through my long history of drunk posts and confessions of uncouth personal conduct if they really wanted to. But if I had to have my real name listed under my character name or something then I doubt I'd post any more often than I do on Facebook (two or three posts a month at most.)

                      "LIVE FAST DIE." - traditional Minmatar ethos [citation needed]

RaTTuS
BIG
#10 - 2011-09-16 11:35:20 UTC
OP is talking rubbish

http://eveboard.com/ub/419190933-134.png http://i.imgur.com/kYLoKrM.png

Florestan Bronstein
Ministry of War
Amarr Empire
#11 - 2011-09-16 12:02:32 UTC
RaTTuS wrote:
OP is talking rubbish

not as unlikely as you think

S. Korea had a severe problem with internet stalking (several celebrities committing suicide over online rumors/troll posts/stalking) and now many websites require you to provide your real name and resident registration number when registering an account.

This information is of course not displayed to other users but stored by the site provider to ensure accountability and responsible behavior.
Mr M
Sebiestor Tribe
#12 - 2011-09-16 12:19:09 UTC
Klandi wrote:
How do you feel about this. Is the"Eve Paradox" reliant on anonymity and do you think you would post on these forums if you had to supply RL details?

I don't care really. And since I already have a couple of domains registered with my name it would be really easy to find out who I am and where I live.

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CCP Spitfire
C C P
C C P Alliance
#13 - 2011-09-16 12:25:36 UTC
Hi,

While I understand the reason for creating this thread in "EVE General Discussion", I think it still belongs in OOPE -- so moving it here.

CCP Spitfire | Marketing & Sales Team @ccp_spitfire

Mercurye
A Lone Trek
#14 - 2011-09-16 12:49:55 UTC

I would be more worried about being stalked and blackmailed than about my own criminal activities

My personal/love life is not included in some creeper's subscription and neither is his. I'd like to keep it that way Bear
Nth Ares
Doomheim
#15 - 2011-09-16 13:55:18 UTC
publicized RL details = instant unsub, and I won't look back

I go to online games to get AWAY from the real world. Also, even if a person is not that interesting to the public, chances are there is at least one person out there who is VERY interested in you in a not-so-good way, and real names give them yet another avenue to get at you. Police don't act at all until there is an obvious threat of physical violence, and may be too late when it gets to that. I know people who have been stalked IRL and it is NOT a joke, it is really disturbing and harmful.
Bane Necran
Appono Astos
#16 - 2011-09-16 15:36:10 UTC
Sounds similar to what Stephen Harper has sworn to do with Canadian internet usage.

'They' want this, and will get it eventually.

"In the void is virtue, and no evil. Wisdom has existence, principle has existence, the Way has existence, spirit is nothingness." ~Miyamoto Musashi

Herzog Wolfhammer
Sigma Special Tactics Group
#17 - 2011-09-16 15:56:00 UTC
The end result will be to track everything you say and if government (dys)functionaries don't agree with any criticism you post, anywhere, they can ninny and say they feel threatened just to get you rolled up and shut up.

And if you don't think that can happen, don't forget a lot of people were gassed in death camps while expecting only a shower. They were fooled, and you can be fooled too.

Bring back DEEEEP Space!

Sidus Isaacs
Center for Advanced Studies
Gallente Federation
#18 - 2011-09-16 20:15:06 UTC
I reject the idea. And I will not take part in it. Fortunatly for me I live in a more sane country, for now.
VKhaun Vex
Viziam
Amarr Empire
#19 - 2011-09-17 01:48:30 UTC  |  Edited by: VKhaun Vex
I see this issue pop up from time to time, but there's a big logical disconnect between the tinfoil hats and the concerned citizen...which is that we already supply our real names and 'details' for billing info, and that's already available to governments (though this might make things easier or remove 'red tape'.) through both the game company and the ISP.

If you're a tinfoil hat, you're already afraid of this because it's a reality.

If you're a concerned citizen, nothing new has happened to be alarmed about.


For this to matter to you at all, you would need to be playing a free game on a free internet connection and that game would have to pop up with something stopping you from playing until you supply a name with something included to prevent you from lying. Probably something like paypal; a demand for a small amount of money like two cents paid electronically just to collect and prove your billing info... which you could decline and stop playing if you are so worried about your comments being viewable by the government.

I've never seen a law that says we'd have to put our names and details up for other players in the game... That would be the game changer for a lot of people. If you have one of those to link, I'd love to see that, but I don't think that's on the agenda for any government as even in the realm of tinfoil hats it doesn't really serve their purposes when they already have our names themselves. Information control would actually make it more in their interest to NOT force that so the information was theirs alone to work with and give out or conceal.

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SpaceSquirrels
#20 - 2011-09-17 04:26:29 UTC
Lol i kinda liked it in Ender's game people had to be approved to voice their opinions on the net (or official type places on the net).

However the government knowing your net info isn't the problem... They already do and already can, and if you pay taxes probably already know where you live.... So who cares? (Now if you want to argue should they have it...it's another story)

The problem lies in others, and ways to steal your identity or use information for other mal intent. And more sites having your data means more likelihood of other getting a hold of it. Lets face it most people could careless, but the crazy ones...and their on the internet with a ton of time! Hell just look at last weeks news cartels in mexico tortured people they found using social networking sites. You want to make it easier for these psychos to track people down?

TMI applies on the internet. Especially if you got something to say that someone else doesn't like... Which pretty much means anything you say someone wont like.
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