Jita Park Speakers Corner

War Decs / Crimewatch - How to continue to make this more better good.

Inferno is doing some good stuff here, but it isn't all done, and the Crimewatch redesign still needs to happen.

Make NPC faction standings matter regarding attracting NPC aggression. If I for instance have good blood rainder standing I should be able to mine when there are blood raider rats around without them aggressing me.

If I happen to be doing a mission in lowsec and a pirate enters the mission, the rats should split aggression between me and pirates.

Would make EVE more interesting and make players choices have consequences.

The notion of cost versus member count is a flaw, and the more people you recruit does not always mean they'll fight. Thus it follows that filling your corporation/alliance up with alts should not equate to higher war costs.

Notice how EVE uni is opening three new corporations? They're gaming the system, just like before, as an example. Combat should not be consensual.

'nuff said (almost ).

Expand upon the coming mercenary interface to include bounty hunting with KR on the market as it were. Several ideas have been floated as to how to avoid 'gaming' the system by buying up KR with alts so shouldn't be a problem.

As for Decs .. since it is set in stone at this point, roll back (some of) the summer changes. Making bloat effectively immune to decs is sheer stupidity .. the argument that "one pays for targets" is ignorant to say the least as the vast majority of Eve is not actually playing the game at any one time (400k subs, 50k online .. do the math) and also neglects to factor in location, location, location.

Speaking of which:
Why not include location in the declaration/cost?

Say you have your mind set on a juicy POS in system X, why should it be necessary to "buy" off the police in all of the cluster? Make it more granular so that a declaration can be made against target and be valid when said target is in constellation/region X only.

Curve-balls:
- Makes the dec cheaper, but outside area the aggressor is treated as if the 'victim' had KR on him/them.
- Any unaligned pilot offering assistance, be it logistics by fuelling a POS, hauling materials (non-wrapped) or repairing a ship/module, is flagged for the duration as if a member of entity in question.

The Inferno wardec changes are terrible. You can get the basics from the devblog feedback threads, but here's a few of the major ones:

1.) No limit/cost to calling in allies when you are decced or being called as an ally. This needs to be fixed, as currently large war deccing corps will be called in as an ally to every war in order to get free targets.

2.) Cost scaling with target size. Flawed, period. See the many suggestions in other threads regarding the formula itself.
2.) a) Currently the cost scaling formula won't count trial accounts or inactive accounts, but will count multiple characters from one account.
2.)b) Cost will still double with each war an aggressor declares, which is ridiculous with the new costs. This also makes no sense according to the "pay for more targets" logic since it will cost more to dec 2 100 man corps than 1 200 man corp
2.)c) There is no longer an incentive to join an alliance, as both corp and alliance decs will cost a base 50mil.
2.)d) If the current cost scaling system stays in place, starting the scaling at 130 members is too high. Start a slower scaling around 50 members. Under the current system, anyone who dares cross into the 50-130 member range is entering a sweetspot where aggressors get the most bang for their buck. This will discourage corps to unify/grow large as they attempt to stay under 30 members to avoid being worthwhile for a wardec.

3.) CCP's current "solution" to corp hopping is banning a character from rejoining the corp they left for a few days or until the war ends. We need a REAL solution to corp hopping--make the war follow people that leave for a short time, or implement the blemish/marking/feedback system as discussed at fanfest.

4.) Add a timer, whether it be 15 minutes or a few hours, between accepting an application for corp membership and that individual becoming a member. This eliminates neutrals jumping into a war while (almost) right next to a target (note: doing it while IMMEDIATELY next to a target is already classed as an exploit).

Also, from what I've seen of the proposed crimewatch changes regarding "suspects" and canflipping, it's just ridiculous. Not only does it fundamentally change eve to be a less "evil" or "criminal" game, it's mostly just going to eliminate canflipping and cause the deaths of lots of carebears. No more dropping a can for 1v1, and if you accidentally grab the wrong can while mining or missioning, the entire system gets to shoot you. Great plan. There is no need to reinvent the wheel here, just simplify the current system and make sure it works.

Crimewatch: With so much new gameplay seemingly involved with the new crimewatch ideas I have one major concern.

As it is now it has been a longstanding bug/feature that local does not update GGC on Mac's. If CCP is going to redesign gameplay around criminal flagging could we at least get them to finally address this bug for Mac users at the same time. If not this would make the Crimewatch the first official gameplay released for PC only in EVE that I know of.

ban npc corps, make individual pilots deccable just like 1-man corps
making wardecs stick is a good start
gouging people to fight in highsec is weak though

I'm looking forward to it. Not just because I long to frolic in the golden meadows of Sobaseki once more without fear of murderous hordes of privateers hunting my plesk-laden breacher, but because I think these empire war alliances cheapen the idea of war. It's not uncommon to see any of these corps in a dozen simultaneous wars with large null-sec entities. I can count, on one hand, the number of days in the last few months that I wasn't at war with some empire hugger that I'll never see unless I hang out in our low-sec staging system (and even then I probably won't see them, because they're sitting at their character select screens waiting for a JF to pop through a gate for their neutral alt to tackle. oh no, I'm giving away secrets!)

Going to war should be something that one has to plan for. If you're going to war for profit, then the cost of war should be a sort of bet. If I am going to spend 1b declaring war on TEST because they were mean to me on /r/eve, I am betting 1b that I can sink enough tonnage to not only pay concord but also get a percentage for my corp members. That is the dynamic that I like about this new system - you can't just shotgun names out of a hat to go to war with.

Edit: I think a good tweak to the system would be changing the formula that the dreaded loot fairy uses to decide whether or not loot drops, but only on killmails where a war target was the top damage dealer. What is it, 50/50 chances of getting loot now? What if it were changed to 75/25 in favor of loot dropping? This would make it easier for corps to meet the rising costs of declaring war while not having to nerf that cost. Win/win.

NO war in empire

I did and had no doubt he'd do anything less. Alekseyev Karrde mercenary of my heart.