EVE Fiction

@ Jowen, the geodesic? parts that make up those crates definately mimic the modular designs we see in Anoikis. I lean toward the Talocan being the Jovian resistance to the Elders and the Enhuadanni.. Or they may just have been the first to discover Anoikis, and the Sleepers came after the Talocan had succumbed to a disease they had been infected with before they entered Anoikis? Giving a reason why they left the cluster in the first place.. And why the Sleepers had triage against the disease..

The Talocan were likely a faction within the Jovian Empire that resented the strict control that the Elders tried to exert over them.

"The Elders were one of the first groups to use genetic engineering for a special purpose, namely that of slowing the aging process. Once, the Elders were a prominent political force in the Jovian society, but, after they brought about the fall of the first Jovian empire they have become more reclusive. Elders can become many centuries old, it's uncertain exactly how old they can become, but some suggest they can outlive even members of the Amarrian royal families." < We now know or suspect that most Jovians are infomorphic.. They are still poking about.. The Fall of the First Empire was likely a war or catastrophe.. I lean once again towards war.. It gives the Jovians a reason to curb their aggressive tendencies...

"Male Modifiers (Talocan?) are constantly in search of something new and different and can never stay in the same place for long (gypsies, tramps and thieves, or nomads). They're fickle and undisciplined compared to other Jovians and are prone to manic-depression and the Jovian Disease. They are also the most reckless, which most often takes them into trouble, but sometimes it results in some spectacular new discovery that would otherwise never have been found." < The Broker, I believe Ouriya was a modifier, too? Which may have made the benifactors who gave the Caldari pod tech, Modifiers.. Statics are in opposition to modifiers, in my opinion..

"For many Jovians their race is in the twilight of their greatness. Ever since the fall of the first empire the Jovian society has been in a slow, steady decline. Most blame the Jovian Disease for this and believe that the Jovians can only hope to turn the tide once a cure for the disease has been found. The Stasis People are Jovians that voluntarily go into cryo-stasis for decades or centuries, hoping that when they wake a bright and better world will greet them." < Sleepers, when they awake?

I'll be looking to stay away from rampant speculation as much as possible, starting off with just "snapshots" of ancient Talocan culture--what they did, how they lived, etc. There will be definite influences of a nomadic mindset on everything they do, for example, and I'll be looking to give possible explanations for the Exchange Depot, the Disruption Tower, the Polestar, etc. But I'm going to stay away from concrete details about what happened just after the EVE gate and their eventual fate.

@ Deceiver's Voice.. I agree with the 3rd Sun line of reasoning.. I also would agree that Tlaloc might not be the ONLY inspiration involved here, but, given that Tlaloc holds sway over the dead and dying, most especially those who die of disease, and the fact that it was Tony "Gonzalez"'s brainchild, for the most part.. I tend to stick with Tlaloc.. The 3rd sun ties in with my old argument about Theosophy, and also some of the hints about the Ni Kunni, and their origin.. Theosophy is very "solar oriented".. Side note, the swastika is originally a native American symbol..

In Theosophy, and the Aztec religion, sun can also mean "world" or "age", so I think you are spot on about it's intended meaning..

It also ties in with some of the hints about the Yan Jung and their way of seeing the "world".. Any hints about them you can drop? I still have not had the time to read any of the Eve Novels, RL has been crazy, of late..

One term in the old lore sticks with me incessantly, Arcane Physics...

One thing to question: Are they nomadic by choice, or necessity? The Exchange Depot in particular would suggest it is not by choice.

The Talocan may not have been mentioned in Templar One, but the Sleepers were. The Mirror is a Sleeper site, and has information on Talocan technology. It is stated that the Enheduanni/Sleepers/Architects assisted the Jovians in reaching Sleeper structures, by giving them technology to assist in migration.

There is two obvious possibilities to explain what evidence is seen there. First, that the Sleepers were using Talocan technology to get to 'Anoikis'. Second, that the Talocan ships seen in Anoikis are of Jovian construction. A third possibility is that there was a combination of this happening.

A final explanation, and my personal favorite, is that Sleeper drones seen are in fact Jovian in construction, and that the Talocan were the first to travel to 'Anoikis'. This would explain the Mirror and what seems to be Jovian nomenclature used in it's databases. Of course you could stretch that to say that both Talocan structures and Sleeper ships were used, in conjunction, to get there... but that's further muddying the already murky evidence.

There isn't enough evidence to truly put any of these theories to rest, let alone prove which one is correct (if any). The evidence can be used to prove any one of them. What is lacking is the context in which many of the sites were constructed. Even using Templar One as a general guide to what happened, the completely isolated context of many of the names used (Enheduanni, Architects, etc.) in the novel preclude them for use in a logical proof or rebuttal if in-game or in-character evidence. There is also paradoxical explanations, information that directly contradicts other information given, etc. Induction, like Dropbear used to say, is the best bet; however, without further development of the Sleeper storyline in-game it's impossible to put to rest any of the questions.

That's probably the point though. CCP seems to have been committed to obfuscating the very thing people were interested in; what is W-space, and who are the Sleepers and Talocan?

I kind of lost track of what I was saying, but in short, uh... have fun? Creating a culture for a fictional setting is awesome, but as the old saying goes, "if you're good at something, never do it for free."

Sleeper Drones also use spatial rifts to get around in the Sister's Epic Arc..

It does, or did.. Haven't run the arc in a while, but, it used to escape through a rift. I believe it is after it uses the acceleration gate.. If that has changed, then it's retcon...

Grious in Templar One states pretty clearly that Sleepers/Architects were part of the first Jove Empire. To be precise, the sub-group of people charged with the construction of the empire jump gates. Later they won influence and power, ultimately leading the whole technological research for all the empire and eventually gaining so much power over the jovian society evolution pace that they started acting like dictators. Until they all went to sleep on their WH refugees (save for the Enheduanni, who are precisely the only non-Sleeper Architects).



IIRC that drone appears in at least 2 different missions. The first one, it flees trought a rift. The second one, you catch it after following it trough an accel gate.

Maybe I'm confusing things since I've run that arc twice, if it was changed inbetween. I'll be sure to do it again asap and take a deep look specially on that.

All right, I've completed a rough draft of my first story that seeks to paint some picture of what life as an ancient Talocan might have been like:

STORY 1: The Sharing.
(http://talocanunited.com/wordpress/the-sharing/ for the url-impaired.)

Keep in mind that it is a rough draft, and small (or large) details will change in the course of future writings. All comments are welcome.

In the next two stories, I plan to delve more into Talocan technology and architecture, continue to develop their culture, and touch a bit on their "darker" sides that we see alluded to in some of the items and location descriptions.

(Also, pictures displayed throughout the story are for evocative purposes and aren't meant to show what "real" Talocan actually looked like.)

Hope you enjoy the story!

I enjoyed it quite a bit too, and I like to think I'm rather picky. Well done.