EVE Fiction

I'm interesting in writing some back story for the Talocan race (as it features heavily in my alliance's name and environment), but I'm not seeing a lot of established word, outside of what's represented in the following links:

http://wiki.eveonline.com/en/wiki/Arek%27Jaalan_Library#The_Talocan_and_their_Habitats
http://wiki.eveonline.com/en/wiki/Project_Pathfinder#Talocan_Civilisation:
http://wiki.eveonline.com/en/wiki/Quarantine
http://wiki.eveonline.com/en/wiki/Arek%27Jaalan:_Talocan_History
http://games.chruker.dk/eve_online/inventory_search.php?keywords=talocan

Has there been any other work done with the Talocan backstory, specifically with their culture? I don't mind heading off into uncharted territories (I have a few interesting ideas), but I want to be sure that it is uncharted.

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EDIT: Following will be the rough drafts of my own works, attempting to paint my own ideas of what daily life as an ancient Talocan might have been like:

STORY 1: The Sharing.

I kept up with those threads when they were still new, and they're mostly speculation revolving around the Sleepers. I'll draw on that for some inspiration, but that's not what I'm looking for.

I'm really more interested in fiction that's been composed about the Talocan, either sanctioned by CCP or otherwise...?

I'm not planning to touch the "mystery" of their extinction (or whether they simply left known space, etc). I'm really just looking at creating a few snapshots of daily Talocan culture--something I can add to our website and background lore, mostly for RP.

If I come up with something more solid, I'll post it here for review. The boundaries do look vague enough to get a little creative.

Hey, that's why I'm here and asking questions.

The Talocan are a massive black hole in what we know. Templar One skips them out entirely (another reason to not consider it canon lore) since they're a total enigma right now. Seriously, we know just about *nothing* of them, other than they lived in New Eden and Anoikis at some point during the Dark Ages, and that they never had as powerful an empire in Anoikis as the Sleepers. They seem kinda 2nd class to them, but that's a whole Wall of Text of stuff to dive into.

All ancient races appear to be somehow related to most the current empires, it has been revealed for example that Takmahl were once part of the Amarr Empire, and are apparent forefathers of the Blood Raiders or at least their ideology and beliefs. It's not entirely impossible that other ancient races are even splinter groups from the rest of the empires, unless this theory has been denied by Word of God before.
Only thing that kind of messes this up is that most fitting ancient races have presence in "wrong areas" - ruins of the nomadic Talocan (minmatar equivalent) are located in Caldari space, Yan Jung (technology relates to Caldari tech) in Gallente space, and Sleepers, and their tech found from Minmatar space, infact appears to be related to Jovian technology and what we know of their history.

Right, what's the point here? Well, Talocan were, or possibly are, today Minmatar, or particularly the Thukkers are their descendants. In the same vein, other ancient empires might have descendants in current empires or their splinter groups, whether they know it or not. I find it hard to believe the ancient races just died out, but might have been faced with a catastrophe of unknown severity and type.

There seems to be a cycle here, races advance too far and they get put back in their place. Recurrence of mysterious diseases appears very strong. First the presumed disease, cause of the Quarantine in wormhole space, then the Jovian disease, and today the Kyonoke Infection mentioned in the Kyonoke Pit chronicle. Each time races seem to regress further too. The humans who came through the EVE Gate seemed to be extremely advanced, capable of extraordinary feats of stellar engineering, not least the creation of the EVE Gate itself. Then the ancient races arose, and became masters of some fields, but didn't get to the level of the ancient humans. Jovians, extremely advanced to us, are probably just a pale shadow of a speck of what the more ancient humans were capable of. The current empires have advanced far, and perhaps it isn't all that far away that their time to be swatted down comes too. Seems very mass effect, doesn't it? Altough we have no idea what the Reapers are, if there is anything but the universe itself trying to get rid of the human species.

Hm. Sorry, I started rambling, and not all that much on-topic. Probably all said before by someone else too.

+1 to the op, good luck have fun, and I look forward to reading your contribution. Perhaps your story will end up better than ccp’s. If indeed ccp isn’t in fact waiting for your story in the first place You can always leave it to the canailles to quibble over any mistakes.

I was invited to a screening of Prometheus on Tuesday, meh, anyway this idea is evident there too. I’m inclined to believe it's plausible that ancient fingers of exploration may have produced all kinds of odd frontiers, as they hopped from one resource rich system to another. Perhaps the Singularity came and went. Perhaps they soured becoming introverted and isolationist to remerge after some post-human Thermidor in newly engineered bodies to look for their ancestors. Only to find each other inexplicable. What’s left for them then, unable to speak to each other? Except perhaps, yes of course - mesegination yay!

The Talocan aren't the children of the Minmatar if I remember right, they come from over Caldari way? But I agree with the idea that the Talocan presence in Anoikis doesn't seem to be Empire-building style. I got a general overview of it being a resource harvesting operation, so many silos etc. I don't think the Sleepers were anything like CONCORD though. They were nowhere near the level of complexity they are currently when they moved into those wormholes, based off what we know about them from the Ani constellation. The research boom we've had over the past couple of years since we found that place, think what we could do in hundreds of years. In general, you'll have problems being any less lore-compliant than Templar One...

Since this seems to be a good a place as any to bounce ideas, here are the cultural sources I'm drawing on for inspiration for the "Old" Talocan (pre-quarantine era):

The Native Americans (in particular, the Apache) - for their social organization
The Māori from New Zealand - for their developed personal expressions of culture
The Mongols - for their successful migrant culture
The Toraja from Indonesia - for their polytheistic animism
The Aztecs - for the Nahuatl language

A keyphrase to describe the Talocan would be "advanced primitives," but, as we shall see, this is a gross simplication.

I considered drawing more heavily on the Aztecs, as the name "Talocan" itself comes from Aztec religion (Tlalocan), but I had trouble reconciling the Talocan's migrant culture with the Aztec's rather-developed civilization. For now, I'll probably just be using derivations of Nahuatl words for the Talocan "native language."

I expect this list to change in the course of my writings, but I'm interested in feedback now.

Excellent! Many thanks; that's exactly the sort of information I can make use of.