EVE General Discussion

I came across this http://latenightalliance.eve-kill.net/?a=kill_detail&kll_id=13296166 a couple weeks ago. It is so terrible it is beyond belief. Can't understand why anyone would do this.

That fit looked like some of my early fits from years ago when I simply used the stuff that I found off rats. It was before I could use T2 anything and I didn't have a lot of ISK either.


The "everything fit" is real though. You will find them in ships equipped for exploration. You never know what you find out there and I have a fit that would be a laughing stock around here but it's been going down wormholes and to 0.0 since 2009. It also survived several Sansha live events with the exploration fit.

Since there is no specific exploration ship suitable for lone wolves (no, not the covops - obvious it was that day I found a class 1 WH for a covops pilot who disappears into it, and comes back 5 minutes later in hull saying "this isn't going to work"), there is something of a exploration "template" that can be applied to just about any battle cruiser. The BC is the largest ship you can use without having to worry about mass (most of the time).

But while useful, where a exploration template on even a T1 hull can survive low class WH and 0.0 exploration sites (forget the heavy hitters), they do indeed make for very bad looking KMs. Command ships are an exception because with the right skills and fit, it's possible to solo up to class 4 (class 5 unconfirmed I'd have to see it to believe it). Perhaps the saddest such KM I have seen for a exploration fit was the Claymore whose pilot decided he could just loot everybody's wrecks during a Sansha live event (evidently the memo does not reach wormhole space) and roughly 12 people, not wanting to miss a chance on a command ship kill, promptly vaporized it.


I think that a real "troll fit" would be for cases when you know you are going to lose the ship so you fit it with nothing but junk as a way of trying to RL-kill your enemies who might die when they see it. At the least they go away feeling like they wasted their ammo on it.

wtf is a kibosh, some kind of Jewish magic trick?

Or one of Madonna's old ones.

I'm of the opinion that NPC corps should at least have a few cookie-cutter corp fits to help new players find their feet. I think you'd see a lot less absurd fittings if there were stock standard options as a base.

In the great spectrum of fits I've seen, that Thanatos isn't that bad. It's a more or less reasonable shield tank on a ship that's somewhat better fitted as an armour tanker. Tank isn't split, he's using a capital rep, no shield extenders, etc.

It could be hugely worse is I guess what I'm saying.

Stokar would never in a million years accept advice or constructive criticism from anyone about terrible fits.

I've seen my fair share of "wait... wtf?" fits, too - they all share a single lesson: the jack of all trades is master of none.

http://eve-kill.net/?a=kill_detail&kll_id=4543885 - Select All, Right-click, "Fit to Active Ship", fly to lowsec Hyperion.
http://eve-kill.net/?a=kill_detail&kll_id=10455546 - The above, as a Megathron - just because you can do something doesn't make it a good idea. He was a couple jumps away from the nearest highsec, and I lived in one of the two nearest lowsec entry systems (the other was roughly 5-6 jumps down the pipe), so I have no idea how he got that far without being spotted.
http://eve-kill.net/?a=kill_detail&kll_id=9505309 - The above, Navy Megathron edition. I'm going to have to give this guy a little bit of credit. At least he put on a rig that he might have gotten some use out of. :\

Not eveyone is the same. Theirs a guy in my place of work, great guy but he's a bit slow to put it kindly, he needs constant supervision, but as long as someone is their to hold his hand he does a good job. Put him on eve and I'm quite sure he'll love it but he'll never be able to put a decent fit together without some one standing over his shoulder explaining it too him every time. Eve is a complex game even if you no longer consider it so and some people will never quite grasp it. Go easy on them.

I dunno, I've thrown quite a few of my victims a mail with useful advice before. I've even replied constructively (sometimes) when they've sent me hate mail, and ended up having some nice chats.

I even station traded one noob the hurricane I killed him with once, and replaced a few of the t2 mods with meta for him :D Admittedly I kill him again 10 minutes later, but still. The thought was there.