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FiS or WiS? Straw poll. - UPDATED

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Triggadex
Absolute Order
Absolute Honor
#141 - 2011-09-17 04:31:09 UTC
Both.

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ShahFluffers
Ice Fire Warriors
#142 - 2011-09-17 04:53:14 UTC
FiS.

I'm not much concerned with WiS... except for the fact that there won't be any actual combat allowed in stations... which bores me and leaves me a tad concerned about how to deal with people who dock up and "hit the bars" until I go away.

How did you Veterans start?
Fawcks
Doomheim
#143 - 2011-09-17 05:33:30 UTC
kenxi wrote:
FIS we need new ships and not just high sp ones give the little guys something cool to.

P.S People like me will never get to us supercap so we really don't care till it gets hotdroped on us.

Yeah for real, I want some new ships.

And make the current ships prettier, they are all ass ugly. Whoever designed almost all of them should be beaten to death.
Vagilicious
Center for Advanced Studies
Gallente Federation
#144 - 2011-09-17 09:35:42 UTC
WIS.

We've had 8+ YEARS of FIS expansion. That's not to say I don't want to see any more spaceship content, but I'd like to see WIS up and running.

And has been stated many times before, Eve is not all about the spaceship PVP, CCP want Eve to be the complete Scifi simulator, and WIS is a step towards this goal.
Sirius Cassiopeiae
Perkone
Caldari State
#145 - 2011-09-17 10:48:26 UTC  |  Edited by: Sirius Cassiopeiae
WiS

so much dev time spent on this... so dont waste it... give us some GOOOOD WiS CONTENT...

But the main word here is WiS WITH CONTENT... so we want WiS that we can USE and not WiS for only walking... we want WiS for content that it will give us... we want WiS as game expansion where we can do stuff and play it and not only technology demo...

i hope i am was clear...
Florestan Bronstein
Ministry of War
Amarr Empire
#146 - 2011-09-17 11:10:48 UTC
Sirius Cassiopeiae wrote:
WiS

so much dev time spent on this... so dont waste it... give us some GOOOOD WiS CONTENT...

But the main word here is WiS WITH CONTENT... so we want WiS that we can USE and not WiS for only walking... we want WiS for content that it will give us... we want WiS as game expansion where we can do stuff and play it and not only technology demo...

i hope i am was clear...

sunk cost fallacy ftw
Meryl SinGarda
Belligerent Underpaid Tactical Team
#147 - 2011-09-17 11:11:45 UTC
You know, I'm totally not surprised at all that this "poll" is almost completely 50/50. There's still hope yet :D
Rico Minali
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
#148 - 2011-09-17 11:21:24 UTC
I want 75% FiS and 25% WiS please.

Trust me, I almost know what I'm doing.
Rhaegor Stormborn
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#149 - 2011-09-17 12:06:05 UTC
Meryl SinGarda wrote:
You know, I'm totally not surprised at all that this "poll" is almost completely 50/50. There's still hope yet :D


Hope of more wasted time and resources? I think people are going to end up really disappointed in whatever WiS becomes. I am not sure what exactly people hope it will be like, but if you have ever played another MMOG with avatars, and gone to a major city hub, and see tons of people standing around, or sitting, or dancing, or whatever else, it is really not fun nor interesting.
Meryl SinGarda
Belligerent Underpaid Tactical Team
#150 - 2011-09-17 12:19:55 UTC
Rhaegor Stormborn wrote:
Meryl SinGarda wrote:
You know, I'm totally not surprised at all that this "poll" is almost completely 50/50. There's still hope yet :D


Hope of more wasted time and resources? I think people are going to end up really disappointed in whatever WiS becomes. I am not sure what exactly people hope it will be like, but if you have ever played another MMOG with avatars, and gone to a major city hub, and see tons of people standing around, or sitting, or dancing, or whatever else, it is really not fun nor interesting.


Those are other games. This is EVE.
BigCountry
Sniggerdly
Pandemic Legion
#151 - 2011-09-17 12:47:55 UTC
I host a show on eve radio sunday nights CST and we discuss topics like this , and we actually talked about this subject during our last show, just a little . It was more along the line should CCP be spending resources developing Dust and WoD, and I say Dust yes, WoD no. All that has to happen for WoD to fail is for Blizzard to release a vampire expansion for WOW .. CCP is jumping into a very onesided market.. SO... if WiS is a beta run for WoD , then i think its another waste of resources, if they truely want to immerse ppl in a space based sci-fi enviroment , well i think it should be balanced with the FiS aspect of the game..
Meryl SinGarda
Belligerent Underpaid Tactical Team
#152 - 2011-09-17 12:57:04 UTC
BigCountry wrote:
I host a show on eve radio sunday nights CST and we discuss topics like this , and we actually talked about this subject during our last show, just a little . It was more along the line should CCP be spending resources developing Dust and WoD, and I say Dust yes, WoD no. All that has to happen for WoD to fail is for Blizzard to release a vampire expansion for WOW .. CCP is jumping into a very onesided market.. SO... if WiS is a beta run for WoD , then i think its another waste of resources, if they truely want to immerse ppl in a space based sci-fi enviroment , well i think it should be balanced with the FiS aspect of the game..


To be honest, I think the whole "We're beta testing WoD!" argument is a bunch of bitterness and tinfoil hattery mixed together. It's the same technology, true. But I believe this is more the argument for people who would flush Incarna down the toilet, had they any influence at all. Thank Spaghetti monster they don't.

As I've stated many times, I've been waiting a long time for this addition to the game. It feels great to be more than a POD in a ship. You know, something with a personality.

EVE is about the only game I take even slightly serious, because it's my game. Everything else can bugger off.
Flynn Fetladral
Tempered Aggression
Seker Matar
#153 - 2011-09-17 13:01:07 UTC
Both should be worked on. WiS is here now, they might as well flesh it out over leaving us with a room and a door for the next two years.

Oh and we used a little officer mods. KIDDING! We used a lot of officers mods, A LOT! Because we don’t :censored: around in low-sec.

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Postitute
Center for Advanced Studies
Gallente Federation
#154 - 2011-09-17 13:28:53 UTC
FiS but....

There would have to be a very large survivorship bias here.

Most people playing EVE at this point must feel FiS to be good enough to keep playing the game, where as all others have left within, or soon after their trial period expired.

I have looked forward to walking in stations (not what we have now) since I started playing in 2007, but if development dollars or talent are going to be so thin that FiS development and support suffers significantly, then I think it would be appropriate for CCP to hold off developing it with FiS resources.
Dyvim Slorm
Coven of the Morrigan
#155 - 2011-09-17 14:32:55 UTC
VaMei wrote:

Until CCP can tell us that WiS will have real gameplay value, rather than saying that it'll increase immersion or simply that it'll be cool, it's FiS all the way for me.


This about sums up my view.

If WIS ever has some function then maybe I'll be more enthusiastic, but until then FIS.
Aquila Draco
#156 - 2011-09-17 15:04:10 UTC
WiS

with something good to do with it:

Sirius Cassiopeiae wrote:


so much dev time spent on this... so dont waste it... give us some GOOOOD WiS CONTENT...

But the main word here is WiS WITH CONTENT... so we want WiS that we can USE and not WiS for only walking... we want WiS for content that it will give us... we want WiS as game expansion where we can do stuff and play it and not only technology demo...

i hope i am was clear...
daddys helper
State War Academy
Caldari State
#157 - 2011-09-17 15:55:37 UTC
VaMei wrote:
If I felt the need to have a human avitar, I'd have never stuck with Eve.
I play Eve for the GAME that it is, the same reason that I play chess. I'm not interested in immersion, playing dress up, running around in a 3d chat room, or any other features that don't improve on the underlying game.

Until CCP can tell us that WiS will have real gameplay value, rather than saying that it'll increase immersion or simply that it'll be cool, it's FiS all the way for me.


this about sums it up for me

I honestly don't even give 3 craps about the backstory, its all secondary to flying in space melting people.
I gave up on immersion years ago, its nice and all, but in the end the game is what matters, not how you are dressed or speak while playing it
Lors Dornick
Kallisti Industries
#158 - 2011-09-17 16:05:50 UTC
FiS

CCP Greyscale: As to starbases, we agree it's pretty terrible, but we don't want to delay the entire release just for this one factor.
Iceni
Doomheim
#159 - 2011-09-18 10:58:01 UTC
*BUMP* - see TL:DR with statistics so far, in the OP.

My CQ door will open - Soon™
Paxx Hekki
Doomheim
#160 - 2011-09-18 11:01:45 UTC
WiS