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FiS or WiS? Straw poll. - UPDATED

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Ager Agemo
Rainbow Ponies Incorporated
#81 - 2011-09-16 16:33:53 UTC
1$ NEX GRENADES! then WIS...

CCP would become rich instantly... at the sheer brutality on stations....
mkint
#82 - 2011-09-16 16:36:09 UTC
Um... EVE is FiS. space-barbie hello-kitty-reject is a pathetic marketing scam by Hilmar trying to bleed the subscribers for a new corp jet. EVE would be better if Sitting-on-Couch was chopped off like an infected limb.

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Baron vonDoom
Scorn.
#83 - 2011-09-16 16:42:15 UTC
Richard Aiel wrote:


as I said: there IS NO FiS

Its called EVE




Well - it's also about the fact that there's more to Eve than 'WiS' and 'FiS' - the market, industry, politics etc.... Whilst they certainly evolve around 'FiS' they do not involve flying in space for the most part.

But I agree - for now, it's easiest to call the actual game Eve as opposed to the useless ressource hog 'WiS', since it adds no content whatsoever.
Denidil
Cascades Mountain Operatives
#84 - 2011-09-16 16:43:41 UTC
FiS gets priority, but WiS should be worked on as well.

Tedium and difficulty are not the same thing, if you don't realize this then STFU about game design.
Malcanis
Vanishing Point.
The Initiative.
#85 - 2011-09-16 16:46:17 UTC
FiS

The WiS advocates had their chance, and they haven't shown that they can employ resources to good effect. Let them "starve" for :18 months:, and learn to work with lean resources. When they've shown they can get worthwhile results with just 2-3 dev teams, then there might be a case for expanding the project to give them more.

"Just remember later that I warned against any change to jump ranges or fatigue. You earned whats coming."

Grath Telkin, 11.10.2016
Richard Aiel
The Merchants of War
#86 - 2011-09-16 16:46:40 UTC
mkint wrote:
Um... EVE is FiS. space-barbie hello-kitty-reject is a pathetic marketing scam by Hilmar trying to bleed the subscribers for a new corp jet. EVE would be better if Sitting-on-Couch was chopped off like an infected limb.


I ave to agree. but given their dedication to "staying the course" I doubt we'll ever see a rollback sadly

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David Grogan
University of Caille
Gallente Federation
#87 - 2011-09-16 16:52:09 UTC
50% of resources should go to FiS

30% of resources should go to Dust 514 (cos its somewhat eve related)

20% of resources should be left for WoD (personally i can't see WoD do well as its more or less the same as wow, guildwars, lord of the rings online etc.)

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Farriz
Nth Dimension
#88 - 2011-09-16 16:54:59 UTC
"Fix" Incarna, and get us some awsum new FIS Content (so both, cause i'd like to see the hangar thingy this year instead of next, even tough I have a machine that can run CQ without melting)
Handsome Hussein
#89 - 2011-09-16 16:56:40 UTC
FiS 100%, no ******* compromise.

Leaves only the fresh scent of pine.
Mendolus
Aurelius Federation
#90 - 2011-09-16 17:01:17 UTC  |  Edited by: Mendolus
I would prefer they finish WiS to a reasonable degree and then let it go the way of FW.
The subscribers will make any of the content itself with WiS anyways so long as you give them the rest of the racial quarters, ship spinning, and some spartan meeting room and/or bar where they can congregate like true socialites and at least feel some sort of avatar related goodiness.

After CCP meets these basic premises, I think they should just leave all the avatar stuff for WoD and get back to FiS for EVE from thereon out until the last blade server goes offline in years to come.

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Suneai
Fredegar Hohenstaufen Corporation
Holy Arumbian Empire
#91 - 2011-09-16 17:11:46 UTC
While I prefer new content being done on FiS, since they've started up on the WiS stuff I'd like them to finish what they started so that it functions as it was meant to. Or at least get the old 'ship spinning hangar' level of functionality and then do an extra kick of focus on the FiS content.
Wu Spacey
Spacey Assignments
#92 - 2011-09-16 17:44:53 UTC
FiS always first 60% dev time, if WiS takes up more than this, CCP should never have started it, or should get more devs. I REALLY want WiS to work, but CCP have to commit with awesome things to do so people want to WiS at least once a session else it will become a "try once a month to see what has changed" waste of time.

So to recap FiS first, then Wis, but if WiS is not Playing in Station Sustained, then it could be an endeavor which ultimately was not worth the development effort.
Millur
Blue Beret UFO Retrieval Team
#93 - 2011-09-16 17:49:03 UTC
FiS, incarna is nice and all but as so many others have stated eve is for me flying in space pew pew.
Dont mind that you try to expand the universe of eve but dont do it on the cost of space ;)

You cant arrange them by penis...
BigDaddyMcFatSacks
Space Olympics LLC
#94 - 2011-09-16 17:55:06 UTC
FIS.

I'd say both but apparently they cant manage to do that lol
Wu Spacey
Spacey Assignments
#95 - 2011-09-16 18:38:13 UTC
Could someone please refer to my notion of Playing in Station Sustained using the acronym please. It was a trap!
Xercodo
Cruor Angelicus
#96 - 2011-09-16 18:51:43 UTC
I vote both, I don't hate or love the NeX store but i would agree that the things sold int he NeX store should be 1 run BPCs or something

also i want snowball and snowball launcher BPCs

The Drake is a Lie
Lady Zarrina
New Eden Browncoats
#97 - 2011-09-16 19:15:47 UTC
FiS needs to be their primary focus.

WiS has a cool factor and that is it. They will not retain any new subscribers because of WiS. Plus can you imagine walking around in Jita. They can barely get us walking around a small single player room. Given alot more time and resources, they will get it to work.... eventually. But these resources would have been better spent on FiS issues. WiS is a pipedream that has to potential to destroy Eve, since it has been mismanaged so badly.

And don't get me started on the shoes. Once they started to believe that this is content, their credibility plummeted.

EVE: All about Flying Frisky and Making Iskie
Zenith Intaki
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
#98 - 2011-09-16 19:21:16 UTC
FiS.

That's what eve all about.

Everything other should be covered just with backstory and guess what? That worked fine for years and years.

Ambulation sucks, WiS is turning eve into yet-another-fps-clone and we don't want it.
Meryl SinGarda
Belligerent Underpaid Tactical Team
#99 - 2011-09-16 19:26:55 UTC
Cearain wrote:
Meryl SinGarda wrote:
Both.

Absolutely.




I would also like them to work at solving world hunger, and supplying medical needs to the disadvantaged, and finding cures for cancer, parkinsons, alzhiemers, ALS....


But I suppose if they can't do it all, I want them to work on FIS, then the other things I mention, and if they get all that done, then walking in stations.


You've had 7 years of FiS, let's have a little bit of WiS until we have something that resembles a finished project.
Rhaegor Stormborn
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#100 - 2011-09-16 20:25:26 UTC  |  Edited by: Rhaegor Stormborn
Meryl SinGarda wrote:
Cearain wrote:
Meryl SinGarda wrote:
Both.

Absolutely.




I would also like them to work at solving world hunger, and supplying medical needs to the disadvantaged, and finding cures for cancer, parkinsons, alzhiemers, ALS....


But I suppose if they can't do it all, I want them to work on FIS, then the other things I mention, and if they get all that done, then walking in stations.


You've had 7 years of FiS, let's have a little bit of WiS until we have something that resembles a finished project.


Durr, that 7 years is what made Eve a remotely successful video game. No contentless no gameplay barbie dolls /dancing in a station.