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Buff Gate Camping

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Spurty
#41 - 2012-05-16 13:35:22 UTC
Someone once mentioned ships jumping in having momentum. Land at 13km from the gate and drift at full speed for a bit (cloaked) thought it was a great idea,

Might not have been on these forums though.

Whoever you are, this is me citing your suggestion.

Gate camp tears are like cornflakes. Boring

There are good ships,

And wood ships,

And ships that sail the sea

But the best ships are Spaceships

Built by CCP
MeestaPenni
Mercantile and Stuff
#42 - 2012-05-16 13:40:22 UTC
Best. Countertrolling. Ever.

I am not Prencleeve Grothsmore.
Issler Dainze
Tadakastu-Obata Corporation
The Honda Accord
#43 - 2012-05-16 19:43:44 UTC
Alara IonStorm wrote:
Issler Dainze wrote:

Or how about this, Buff gate guns as gates were never intended to be able to be perma-camped like they can be now. Ships got better year after year but gate guns remain the same.....


Just saying how about gate guns go back as intended....

Issler

I say make them godlike on the Hi to Low transits like in High Sec.

If it becomes harder to camp the direct entrances and makes blockades have to setup in one of the 2-5 other gates it decreases people getting ***** slapped their first step in and lessens the flow of newbie mails. Camping becomes a bit less viable it might make a few campers turn to roaming. It also makes it hard for people who purposely keep there sec positive to jump away if a superior force comes to remove them. Makes them jump into another low sec system.

Help some players take the plunge into lo-sec as well.


That would be an awesome start, I'd also make them nastier as the sec diminishes and/or increase in nastiness over time. So you might be able to deal with them for 30 minute but they start hitting harder and harder as time goes on.

Get the fighting in space, not the gates and stations!

Issler
Morganta
The Greater Goon
#44 - 2012-05-16 19:52:12 UTC
Issler Dainze wrote:

Get the fighting in space, not the gates and stations!


and they made you a CSM?

how do you get the fighting in space, some special bookmark or warp in?
Simi Kusoni
HelloKittyFanclub
#45 - 2012-05-16 19:53:03 UTC
Issler Dainze wrote:
Alara IonStorm wrote:
Issler Dainze wrote:

Or how about this, Buff gate guns as gates were never intended to be able to be perma-camped like they can be now. Ships got better year after year but gate guns remain the same.....


Just saying how about gate guns go back as intended....

Issler

I say make them godlike on the Hi to Low transits like in High Sec.

If it becomes harder to camp the direct entrances and makes blockades have to setup in one of the 2-5 other gates it decreases people getting ***** slapped their first step in and lessens the flow of newbie mails. Camping becomes a bit less viable it might make a few campers turn to roaming. It also makes it hard for people who purposely keep there sec positive to jump away if a superior force comes to remove them. Makes them jump into another low sec system.

Help some players take the plunge into lo-sec as well.


That would be an awesome start, I'd also make them nastier as the sec diminishes and/or increase in nastiness over time. So you might be able to deal with them for 30 minute but they start hitting harder and harder as time goes on.

Get the fighting in space, not the gates and stations!

Issler

I especially like the part where you outline a plan to make fighting in space a more viable tactic.

Currently people in anomalies, radar sites and mag sites are pretty much the only targets you'll find in space. Anyone else will have a scout on the acceleration gate, see you coming on directional a mile off or they'll spot your probes the moment you try and flash scan them.

Hell, most players outside of local won't even undock with a neutral in local. Even in low sec the only people who will continue doing something with hostiles in local is people doing exploration, because they think they have an acceleration gate protecting them.

You may not like gate camping, but it is ridulously easy to avoid gate camps as it is and they are one of the only reliable forms of forcing combat. If you really hate them that much you should put your energy into teaching players to scout, or fly appropriate ships like blockade runners.

[center]"I don't troll, I just give overly blunt responses that annoy people who are wrong but don't want to admit it. It's not my fault that people have sensitive feelings"  -MXZF[/center]
Simi Kusoni
HelloKittyFanclub
#46 - 2012-05-16 19:54:04 UTC
Also, wth is that person doing with a CSM tag?

[center]"I don't troll, I just give overly blunt responses that annoy people who are wrong but don't want to admit it. It's not my fault that people have sensitive feelings"  -MXZF[/center]
Ituhata Saken
Killboard Padding Services
#47 - 2012-05-16 19:55:12 UTC
Morganta wrote:
Issler Dainze wrote:

Get the fighting in space, not the gates and stations!


and they made you a CSM?

how do you get the fighting in space, some special bookmark or warp in?




My vote is to make people fight for strategically valuable locations....like stations......and ....and gates....

So close...
Serge Bastana
GWA Corp
#48 - 2012-05-16 20:03:39 UTC
Simi Kusoni wrote:
Also, wth is that person doing with a CSM tag?


Sounding a bit clueless about the game the rest of use play it seems.

WoW holds your hand until end game, and gives you a cookie whether you win or lose. EVE not only takes your cookie, but laughs at you for bringing one in the first place...

Issler Dainze
Tadakastu-Obata Corporation
The Honda Accord
#49 - 2012-05-16 20:06:21 UTC
Morganta wrote:
Issler Dainze wrote:

Get the fighting in space, not the gates and stations!


and they made you a CSM?

how do you get the fighting in space, some special bookmark or warp in?



Belts, mission instances, anomalies, planet customs offices, POSs.......

And yeah, they made me a CSM!

Issler
Simi Kusoni
HelloKittyFanclub
#50 - 2012-05-16 20:08:51 UTC
Serge Bastana wrote:
Simi Kusoni wrote:
Also, wth is that person doing with a CSM tag?


Sounding a bit clueless about the game the rest of use play it seems.

Indeed, Christ if he can get on the CSM I might run myself next year. I could do with a trip to Iceland and I actually know a little about internet space ships.

[center]"I don't troll, I just give overly blunt responses that annoy people who are wrong but don't want to admit it. It's not my fault that people have sensitive feelings"  -MXZF[/center]
Serge Bastana
GWA Corp
#51 - 2012-05-16 20:13:40 UTC
Issler Dainze wrote:
Morganta wrote:
Issler Dainze wrote:

Get the fighting in space, not the gates and stations!


and they made you a CSM?

how do you get the fighting in space, some special bookmark or warp in?



Belts, mission instances, anomalies, planet customs offices, POSs.......

And yeah, they made me a CSM!

Issler


From what I've heard, your representation amounts to very little.

WoW holds your hand until end game, and gives you a cookie whether you win or lose. EVE not only takes your cookie, but laughs at you for bringing one in the first place...

Adria Origin
Yar Har Fiddle Di Dee
#52 - 2012-05-16 20:29:32 UTC  |  Edited by: Adria Origin
Change gate guns to be more like POS guns. High sec gates and stations should be better set up with more guns. Lower sec = less guns. Guns should be destructible in low sec and below, NPC owned systems should respawn the guns any time the grid becomes empty for a certain amount of time or after DT. They should be anchorable in null sec, either use POS guns directly or make a new kind of gun.

Issler Dainze wrote:
Morganta wrote:
Issler Dainze wrote:

Get the fighting in space, not the gates and stations!


and they made you a CSM?

how do you get the fighting in space, some special bookmark or warp in?



Belts, mission instances, anomalies, planet customs offices, POSs.......

And yeah, they made me a CSM!

Issler

Who voted for you?
Metal Icarus
Star Frontiers
Brotherhood of Spacers
#53 - 2012-05-16 20:30:54 UTC  |  Edited by: Metal Icarus
I was warping through low sec last night I landed onto a gate camp. Would mean nothing but they had a smart bombing BS with logi that insta popped rookie ships and pods when they landed. I lost BC5 due to my "there are no bubbles in null, I'll update my clone when I have a chance of getting killed"

yeah, they need a buff.....

BTW op get a fast locking rapier to help you with your problem. quit whining... whiner.
Adria Origin
Yar Har Fiddle Di Dee
#54 - 2012-05-16 20:34:54 UTC
Metal Icarus wrote:
BTW op get a fast locking rapier to help you with your problem. quit whining... whiner.

That's wrong too.

You guys are worse at eve than me.

I'll throw you a bone: Insta-lock canes. Can't run if you die in 1 volley.
Gogela
Epic Ganking Time
CODE.
#55 - 2012-05-16 20:44:11 UTC
Well... to be fair EvE has been getting safer and safer with nothing really done in the other direction to date. That said... crimewatch. Wardecs. hellz yah.

Signatures should be used responsibly...
Haulie Berry
#56 - 2012-05-16 20:49:47 UTC
Is this the thread where we all gather to talk about how there aren't enough people to shoot at in low sec, and, also, how we're completely unwilling to accept any sort of change that would make low sec less inhospitable in any way?
Radelix Cisko
JUMP DRIVE ACTIVE
#57 - 2012-05-16 20:53:02 UTC
To OP,

You may have the right to attempt to force combat on others and we have the right to attempt to avoid it.

Despite my posting prowess I really am terrible at this game
Fredfredbug4
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#58 - 2012-05-16 22:07:00 UTC
A good gate camp will be able to grab you before you even turn around and start burning back to the gate.

Watch_ Fred Fred Frederation_ and stop [u]cryptozoologist[/u]! Fight against the brutal genocide of fictional creatures across New Eden! Is that a metaphor? Probably not, but the fru-fru- people will sure love it!
Simi Kusoni
HelloKittyFanclub
#59 - 2012-05-16 22:13:49 UTC
Haulie Berry wrote:
Is this the thread where we all gather to talk about how there aren't enough people to shoot at in low sec, and, also, how we're completely unwilling to accept any sort of change that would make low sec less inhospitable in any way?

No, this is the thread where we don't care how terrible you are at Eve. As long as you make less ISK for being terrible.

In other words: if you can't figure out how to get into low sec, that's your problem. But you should be space poor as hell for it.

[center]"I don't troll, I just give overly blunt responses that annoy people who are wrong but don't want to admit it. It's not my fault that people have sensitive feelings"  -MXZF[/center]
Haulie Berry
#60 - 2012-05-17 03:15:44 UTC
Simi Kusoni wrote:
Haulie Berry wrote:
Is this the thread where we all gather to talk about how there aren't enough people to shoot at in low sec, and, also, how we're completely unwilling to accept any sort of change that would make low sec less inhospitable in any way?

No, this is the thread where we don't care how terrible you are at Eve. As long as you make less ISK for being terrible.

In other words: if you can't figure out how to get into low sec, that's your problem. But you should be space poor as hell for it.


Oh, yes. Low sec is definitely the province of the internet space 1%ers.

How could I forget?

Hear that kids? Head on out to low sec and you, too, can shoot 250K bounty belt rats.Roll

You'll be loaded in no time.