EVE General Discussion

so your problem with high-end moons isn't the nature of the bottleneck, just that you can't mine moons in hisec

i see

My my, how ... obvious

Making 0.0 refineries more efficient would help a lot.
But there's a game design issue, that is CCP wanted the various empires and 0.0 to be just partly independent. Therefore making 0.0 a self sufficient territory would remove the last logistics left (aka connections between empires and 0.0).

Not sure it'd be bad, I personally find a 0.0 Jita would be a lovely concept (maybe put it in a lone hi sec island system to avoid perma camp). Not sure CCP would approve of it though.

Y'all need to watch your fanfest vids.

Planetary ring mining is coming within a year, and will end, or at least severely nerf the moon-goo monopoly since it will be mineable by anyone all over new eden.

Yep, we didnt have to field invasion fleets to get it, we dont have to field defence fleets to keep it, in fact we dont even need to look after the pos's, the logistics or anything else, we just stick a special wallet siphon on the moon and the isk goes direct into the wallet...

derp

Yes we are attacked daily, we defend our sapce daily. EVERY DAY. Not occasionally, not once a week, every day people come to fight. We go and defend pos's and our infrastructure pretty much weekly somewhere. This shows how little you know.

Also, the isk is there for any of you to earn, it doesnt have to be high end moons being mined. I personally manage a single reaction for my corp, so two pos's every couple of days I need to go empty silo's and all the boring stuff. What reaction? Fullerides, we import the tech which stands at around 200k a unit at this post, we mine at a platinum moon (those are massively plentiful all over low and nullsec) the second pos sits and mines two very low end moon goo and makes carbon polymers so together it makes carbon polymers and platinum technite, split between the two moons to make fullerides.

This can be done ANYWHERE in lowsec or nullsec, all you have to do is import the technetium, just as we do. At current prices this is making 1.9 billion isk profit every 8 days, take out fuel and you are looking at I suppose a billion or so just over profit.

Anyone of you people whining could do this anywhere there is a platinum moon and a second very low end moon to pair it with. You probably wont though as you are too busy whining about how unfair Eve is. Moon goo isnt all about nullsec, you just think it is because you are stupid. The isk we make isnt just about technetium, you just think it is because you are stupid. Who are one of teh biggest advocates of nerfing tech? GSF. But you didnt know that. Because you are stupid.

I have just told you waht all of you could be doing. My corporation dont own tech moons, we dont have any high end moons at all, we arnt given technetium, or isk, we make our own. Yes we have about a dozen pos's alltogether but its low end stuff carbides, sylramic fibres and one fullerides reaction set. Our tax is set at 15% and the pilots rat as much as they want to (though we are a pvp corp so it isnt exactly huge amounts of ratting)

The corp brings in anywhere between 6 and 15 billion isk (the markets do vary that much that fast) a month after all our expenses and costs are paid, every month we buy at least a couple of our guys a carrier or the skills to fly capitals. We have our own corp srf that covers probably 30% of a hull cost so at least helps people with their losses, we have put one guy in a supercarrier and are working on more. Every bit of this isk is self made, from no tech and no handouts.

Any 100+ man corp anywhere in nullsec or lowsec could do exactly the same thing with a little effort.

So this isnt about silver spoons or even technetium, its about putting some effort into getting what you want. If you arnt prepared to work for it, then dont. But dont complain about those who do work for it.

Well you have your facts wrong on why we were kicked but thats ok.

And no, has nothing to do with carebearing.

The problem I have is with the moon goo. Not you, not your corp not even the goons.

The problems is in the fact that CCP has placed in NULL the ability to use a isk flow in the game that is not available to those in high sec.

CCP wanted a way to increase movement of the population to Null, the added high end mining belts to NULL. That is great, I have no problems with that. But the kicker to add moon goo to the mix without the ability to mine the goo in high is the cause for the concern.

So, Rico. Once again I am glad your corp is doing well. I hope you guys continue to do well in FA. I am not trying to take that away from you at all.

Not all corps are ready to be in Low or Null to create moon goo.

This is me talking not anyone else in my corp. This is all me. CCP needs to either Add Moon Goo to high-sec or Remove it in Null.

Goons use their moon goon to reimburse ships, players with reimbursed ships buy new ships. New ships bought == isk for industrialists. Otherwise, industrialists would never sell their ships.

Seriously, what is it with you pubbies and the desire to rage on goons lately.

Your character is from 2012. If you are older than that, why not post on the forums with your main acct when starting thread singling out alliances or corps?

nice try though.